The musings of a disturbed woman - Page 3

Originally posted by: bollyqueen0

What on earth 😆 can someone PM me if they ever end up understanding the third one?

Looks like she is openly boasting about how she used the excuse of ‘mental illness’ to escape jail sentence in her recent court case by Javed Akhtar. 😳 😆

Originally posted by: bollyqueen0

What on earth 😆 can someone PM me if they ever end up understanding the third one?

Sounds like she’s desperately trying to portray herself as persecuted again to me tbh. It’s pretty much her MO any time a film of hers releases anyway, find some controversy to paint herself as the victim and get publicity for her film. In this case it seems like a nudge to the SSR “advocate” group or whatever in the beginning with talking about people who are more private but intelligent, cuz that was how he was commonly described after his death & she tried pretty hard previously to share in that description. Then she’s talking about jail, accused of witchcraft, etc. more of her delusions of BW being out to get her. People said that BW got jealous of SSR and hence murdered him/got him to kill himself, etc. too, so maybe even that ties back into getting the support of that crowd?

She’s also trying to paint herself as a person that Hindu people should follow & believe, like she’s also done previously with her more negative religious posts & comments IMO. Not to mention that painting herself as a genuine person compared to other stars & influencers with her social media related comments.

Second screenshot is good...finally some sensible talk from her

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

The problem with this woman is that she behaves like its her fundamental right to talk about Sanatana Dharma, irrespective of the context and whether its necessary or no. What she's said is not entirely wrong, but she brings it up on purpose...and most times the way she misuses words like "Hindutva"...that's why we're being called intolerant, even though Sanatanis have been the most patient of them all.

I'll just put a disclaimer here that I have been reading lots on this topic since one year, s o I am no pro, and if there are any mistakes, don't come @ me, instead pyaar se bata dena 😆. I might deviate a bit coz its like way too much content and I've still tried to be specific, but if there's something you don't understand or have a question, don't hesitate to ask.

Firstly, there is no religion called Hinduism. The word "Hindu" was used by civilizations towards the East (Ancient Persians and then Greeks) who could not pronounce the letter "S". So Hindus are actually the people who near the Sindhu river and the Sindh region. 😆

Secondly, the concept of religion is fairly new to the sub-continent. Because Sanatana Dharma by definition means eternal duties. Let me elaborate: no matter who you are or what you do, there will be certain responsibilities that you'd have to fulfil. If you're a student, your dharma is to study, if you're working, your dharma is to do your job well and earn money in the right way. At the same time, if you're single, then your dharma is to take good care of yourself, not go down any wrong path and support your parents. If you're married, then your dharma is to be able to balance your personal life in whatever way you chose...and I don't mean the wife should be cleaning, cooking etc, but to have a healthy marriage. So you get the idea.

Third: The final goal is to attain moksha and reunite with Brahman, which is something most Sanatanis aren't even aware of today, they'll say things "main Vaikunth pohoch jaau Krishna ke paas" or "Mahadev ki sharan mein marrne ke baad rahu"...but what they are talking about is moksha prapti only. For that, a person can follow anyone: it can be through gaining knowledge from the Vedas, Puranas, Upanishads, or through Yoga, or following one or multiple deities or Bhagwaan ke avatars (Rama, Krishna) or devas like Ganapati, or focussing on energy solely a.k.a Adishakti and her avatars...or present day people read the Gita specifically. You can even be an aethist and be a Sanatani because like I said, its not about what you believe, but about what your dharma.

So there can actually be no "Hindu Ekta" coz people fight over stupid things like "Krishna is better than Ganesh" or "Durga Maa is the Ultimate"...they are basically roads created to reach your destination a.k.a moksha. There's something to learn from each and every one of them, and it entirely depends on whom you chose. Whomsoever you feel connected to the most or whatever concept you feel connected to the most you follow. Like kids love Ganpati Bappa because of his stories and his cute appearance or Krishna, with his maakhan chor, then there are older individuals who can be very detached and they feel a strong connect to Shiva etc etc. But that does not mean its disorganized, it means its that flexible.

Fourth: Sanatana has no one set book or rules to follow. Its not been created by any means. It is not doctored or tailored to fulfil an objective. It has evolved over centuries in terms of how its understood, like people of the Kaliyuga might never be able to understand the Vedas, given its complexity, that's why Krishna made the Gita for us. There is no concept of fear, if you've done something wrong then you will pay for it, basic rule of karma. There's no set language to understand it in, the Indus Valley Civilzation had an unknown, undecoded language but there were Sanatanis (there is actual proof, I am not making this up), then there was Tamil, Ancient Sanskrit, Vedic Sanskrit, split into various languages...and today I'm talking to you in Hinglish. 😆 And there's no way you can be made a "Hindu"...ask any Sanatani this question and they'll be like "hum toh paidaish hote hai, humein kya pata". But for those becoming Sanatanis today, the organizations agree to do like a small puja as initiation.

Fifth: There are way too many traditions that differentiate from family to family. We've all essentially come from Brahma, but because there have been multiple children, who've had multiple children...we forget that saying "humare ghar mein aise nahi hota" is essentially futile. If you trace back your ancestry you'd see. Based off your surname and even your mother's surname its easy to take it back.

Sixth: Sanatanis have always called a spade a spade. Raavan was also a Shiv Bhakt, his great grand-father was Brahma himself and he was a vey learned man. But voh galat tha toh tha bhai, baaki kitna bhi acha kyu na ho. Prajapati Daksha is not a liked being because of his arrogance, despite the fact that he was Prajapati. Shukracharya ko bhi kaun pasand karta hai...he was literal chaos even though his father was Saptarishi Bhrigu and grandfather is Brahma. The Pandavas have also been called out for what almost happened to Draupadi. Obviously those series of events had to lead to the Mahabharata, but jo galat hai usse bola gaya hai, irrespective of that person's personal belief. That's why there are no complications, because what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong.

Seventh: The concept of Bhagwaan is actually very vague yet specific. Because they were essentially beings with superhero like powers. We've been so hell-bent on focussing on the name and stories of the deities that we forget where the source all came from. It all started from what they call Hiranyagarbha, the cosmic egg which when split, released crazy amounts of energy...essentially Ardhanareshwar aka Shiva-Shakti, masculine and feminine, source of all creations. There are various discrepancies in stories, but the most I dug deep, I am sure its Ardhanareshwar because Shakti is essentially energy, who manifests itself into everything around us. Its Purusha-Prakriti: Purusha is the soul and pure consciousness, whereas Prakriti is what changes around us. Basically "energy cannot be created or destroyed, it only changes its form".

Eighth: Overall Sanatana is a series of philosophies that have to be understood (Vedas, Upanishads, Gita) which gets mixed with "History" to know what are good and bad actions (Puranas, Ramayana and Mahabharat). Those people who lived and walked on this planet in Ancient Times were way different and even advanced than us. Ancient Civilizations all over the world were Pagan, their deities only having different names and slightly varied concepts, now the only one surviving is "Hinduism" along with its branches Sikhism, Buddhism, Jainism. The end of Kaliyuga will see some serious changes: how and what, I wish I live to see that. So Sanatana existed in the past in different forms. It will exist in the future in a different form(s). Some things will remain constant, some will change. But in its base, without all the religious politics, misinterpretation of scriptures, corruption of the Varna System etc, it is how you lead life and learn from the historical part of it.

I hope I made sense!

It is not my situation but imagine not knowing anything about Hinduism and what you encounter is her and the madness that she is, how she behaves, the things she has said, ( I was a drug addict-her views on family and married men,. the have se x anywhere or when ever you want, with whomever-the preaching of violence and even genocide etc..) It just does not leave what ever faith she is trying to push in a bad light.but in complete darkness. And as you explain it very well, none of what she is saying is the absolute truth. My hope is that young and old will refute those points on which she is wrong and that people will call her out on the things that she is not correct on, and make darn sure they make it clear she is not the authority on it, she does not own the faith....as it's very core philosophy NOBODY is.

Again THANK YOU

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche

She’s disturbed. What more you need to know 😆

Originally posted by: Sashay01

Let's really not give this woman any footage. She's dying to come back in the limelight after her twitter suspension and her raving mad appearances on Arnab post SSR.

Right now she ll use any controversy to bounce back from Thalaivi.

EXACLTY.

she’s just try worst kind of attention seeker.

She is just not worth it, people shooli of just let her fade to obscurity. She is not relevant at all.

Originally posted by: CriticusExpert

.My hope is that young and old will refute those points on which she is wrong and that people will call her out on the things that she is not correct on, and make darn sure they make it clear she is not the authority on it, she does not own the faith....as it's very core philosophy NOBODY is.

Again THANK YOU

That’s what she wants. She wants to trigger people to engage with her.

It’s best to ignore her.

She might be making milder posts so that she doesn’t get banned completely from insta as well.

Originally posted by: CriticusExpert

BRAVO Thank you, yes you do make sense and I am grateful.

It is not my situation but imagine not knowing anything about Hinduism and what you encounter is her and the madness that she is, how she behaves, the things she has said, ( I was a drug addict-her views on family and married men,. the have se x anywhere or when ever you want, with whomever-the preaching of violence and even genocide etc..) It just does not leave what ever faith she is trying to push in a bad light. And as you explain it very well, none f what she is saying is the absolute truth. My hope is that young and old will refute those points on which she is wrong and that people will call her out on the things that she is not correct on, and make darn sure they make it clear she is not the authority on it, she does not own the faith....as it's very core philosophy NOBODY is.

Again THANK YOU

I know what you're saying and its actually scary to think about. I'll be honest here and say that I agreed with her nepotism comments in the beginning and a few things here and there, but off late everything that she's been spewing is actually insane.

And even if she's highly knowledgable about Sanatana (lets assume she is for once), anyone with even the slightest bit of common sense would be vary of her words.

The only problem is that even seniors don't know half the things I typed out. Would u believe me if I told u that I am teaching my parents all this and not the other way round? Its not like they are completely blank on the topic, but to know each story and their roots...their elders didn't do it and I believe in gaining information.

And coming to juniors...jinko Hindi padhna uncool lagta hai and they literally have made up their mind that all of this is fake, unka kya kare? And who else to blame but their parents.

Luckily there are some really good pages on SM that cover lots of these topics in a fun illustrative way. I follow quite a few myself and came across some interesting concepts.

Kangana's problem is that she tries to be the spokesperson for everything, including Sanatana. Even preachers or spiritual gurus like Prabhupada, Vivekananda, Satguru and Paramahansa Yogananda did not stake any sort of claim because it is no one's to claim, like you said.

No problem at all, I am glad I could help 😊

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

The problem with this woman is that she behaves like its her fundamental right to talk about Sanatana Dharma, irrespective of the context and whether its necessary or no. What she's said is not entirely wrong, but she brings it up on purpose...and most times the way she misuses words like "Hindutva"...that's why we're being called intolerant, even though Sanatanis have been the most patient of them all.

I'll just put a disclaimer here that I have been reading lots on this topic since one year, s o I am no pro, and if there are any mistakes, don't come @ me, instead pyaar se bata dena 😆. I might deviate a bit coz its like way too much content and I've still tried to be specific, but if there's something you don't understand or have a question, don't hesitate to ask.

Firstly, there is no religion called Hinduism. The word "Hindu" was used by civilizations towards the East (Ancient Persians and then Greeks) who could not pronounce the letter "S". So Hindus are actually the people who near the Sindhu river and the Sindh region. 😆

Secondly, the concept of religion is fairly new to the sub-continent. Because Sanatana Dharma by definition means eternal duties. Let me elaborate: no matter who you are or what you do, there will be certain responsibilities that you'd have to fulfil. If you're a student, your dharma is to study, if you're working, your dharma is to do your job well and earn money in the right way. At the same time, if you're single, then your dharma is to take good care of yourself, not go down any wrong path and support your parents. If you're married, then your dharma is to be able to balance your personal life in whatever way you chose...and I don't mean the wife should be cleaning, cooking etc, but to have a healthy marriage. So you get the idea.

Third: The final goal is to attain moksha and reunite with Brahman, which is something most Sanatanis aren't even aware of today, they'll say things "main Vaikunth pohoch jaau Krishna ke paas" or "Mahadev ki sharan mein marrne ke baad rahu"...but what they are talking about is moksha prapti only. For that, a person can follow anyone: it can be through gaining knowledge from the Vedas, Puranas, Upanishads, or through Yoga, or following one or multiple deities or Bhagwaan ke avatars (Rama, Krishna) or devas like Ganapati, or focussing on energy solely a.k.a Adishakti and her avatars...or present day people read the Gita specifically. You can even be an aethist and be a Sanatani because like I said, its not about what you believe, but about what your dharma.

So there can actually be no "Hindu Ekta" coz people fight over stupid things like "Krishna is better than Ganesh" or "Durga Maa is the Ultimate"...they are basically roads created to reach your destination a.k.a moksha. There's something to learn from each and every one of them, and it entirely depends on whom you chose. Whomsoever you feel connected to the most or whatever concept you feel connected to the most you follow. Like kids love Ganpati Bappa because of his stories and his cute appearance or Krishna, with his maakhan chor, then there are older individuals who can be very detached and they feel a strong connect to Shiva etc etc. But that does not mean its disorganized, it means its that flexible.

Fourth: Sanatana has no one set book or rules to follow. Its not been created by any means. It is not doctored or tailored to fulfil an objective. It has evolved over centuries in terms of how its understood, like people of the Kaliyuga might never be able to understand the Vedas, given its complexity, that's why Krishna made the Gita for us. There is no concept of fear, if you've done something wrong then you will pay for it, basic rule of karma. There's no set language to understand it in, the Indus Valley Civilzation had an unknown, undecoded language but there were Sanatanis (there is actual proof, I am not making this up), then there was Tamil, Ancient Sanskrit, Vedic Sanskrit, split into various languages...and today I'm talking to you in Hinglish. 😆 And there's no way you can be made a "Hindu"...ask any Sanatani this question and they'll be like "hum toh paidaish hote hai, humein kya pata". But for those becoming Sanatanis today, the organizations agree to do like a small puja as initiation.

Fifth: There are way too many traditions that differentiate from family to family. We've all essentially come from Brahma, but because there have been multiple children, who've had multiple children...we forget that saying "humare ghar mein aise nahi hota" is essentially futile. If you trace back your ancestry you'd see. Based off your surname and even your mother's surname its easy to take it back.

Sixth: Sanatanis have always called a spade a spade. Raavan was also a Shiv Bhakt, his great grand-father was Brahma himself and he was a vey learned man. But voh galat tha toh tha bhai, baaki kitna bhi acha kyu na ho. Prajapati Daksha is not a liked being because of his arrogance, despite the fact that he was Prajapati. Shukracharya ko bhi kaun pasand karta hai...he was literal chaos even though his father was Saptarishi Bhrigu and grandfather is Brahma. The Pandavas have also been called out for what almost happened to Draupadi. Obviously those series of events had to lead to the Mahabharata, but jo galat hai usse bola gaya hai, irrespective of that person's personal belief. That's why there are no complications, because what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong.

Seventh: The concept of Bhagwaan is actually very vague yet specific. Because they were essentially beings with superhero like powers. We've been so hell-bent on focussing on the name and stories of the deities that we forget where the source all came from. It all started from what they call Hiranyagarbha, the cosmic egg which when split, released crazy amounts of energy...essentially Ardhanareshwar aka Shiva-Shakti, masculine and feminine, source of all creations. There are various discrepancies in stories, but the most I dug deep, I am sure its Ardhanareshwar because Shakti is essentially energy, who manifests itself into everything around us. Its Purusha-Prakriti: Purusha is the soul and pure consciousness, whereas Prakriti is what changes around us. Basically "energy cannot be created or destroyed, it only changes its form".

Eighth: Overall Sanatana is a series of philosophies that have to be understood (Vedas, Upanishads, Gita) which gets mixed with "History" to know what are good and bad actions (Puranas, Ramayana and Mahabharat). Those people who lived and walked on this planet in Ancient Times were way different and even advanced than us. Ancient Civilizations all over the world were Pagan, their deities only having different names and slightly varied concepts, now the only one surviving is "Hinduism" along with its branches Sikhism, Buddhism, Jainism. The end of Kaliyuga will see some serious changes: how and what, I wish I live to see that. So Sanatana existed in the past in different forms. It will exist in the future in a different form(s). Some things will remain constant, some will change. But in its base, without all the religious politics, misinterpretation of scriptures, corruption of the Varna System etc, it is how you lead life and learn from the historical part of it.

I hope I made sense!

Brilliant...couldn't have said it better myself.

There's absolutely no mention of the word "Hindu" in the ancient texts. Sanatana Dharma as I understand it is "Spiritually" in its most simple form. The goal is to be one with the "Creator" and you will find it inside you (Sadhana) not outside (Maya). There are barely any rules because Spirituality is personal & nobody should decide where you get your "energy" from. If you think the Creator would look like this...go ahead, make an idol. You get your energy from a stone, go ahead worship it. Sanatana Dharma & its branches like ayurveda, jyotish all revolve around this concept of "Energy". Positive & Negative. Its as simple as that, as far as I understand. The rest is guidelines to achieve that, but not strict rules.

Well if nothing else she seems to be finally understanding that her paid trolls only follow and like her for money which is why the never show up for her movies. That’s some progress, right?

And yes it definitely sounds like she understands claiming (or actually having) mental illness helps keep her out of jail LOL