My two cents on Alia Bhatt's Controversial Ad - Page 4

Originally posted by: TMKOC_MY

Deepika se setting karlo, rs bach jayenge maal ke

mama se mama sa mama coo sa🤣

Ghanta pata nahi chale hai adv banane ....

Bansuri wale Kanya daan matlab kanya ka daan nahi ....padte kuch hai nahi chal dete hai kuch bhi pelne 😆 G main dum hai to Burke pe ek adv bana ke dekho ..ser tan se juda ..no controversy no halla gulla sidha SER TAN SE JUDA

Shadi se pehle Kanya ka gotr pita ka gotr hota hai ...PITA shadi main jab kanya daan karta hai tab wo apne Gotr ka daan karta agni ko shakshi maan ke phir wo kanya apne pati ko gotr ko apna leti na ki pita apni kanya ka daan kar deta ... Pati bhi agni ko shaskhi maan ke phir use savikaar karta hai .....

DIDI ko branded lakho ka manyvaar dress chhaiye destination wedding karni hai but Kanya daan se tension ...ajab C macha rakha hai bansuri walo ne

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche

mama se mama sa mama coo sa🤣

Originally posted by: TheMinion

After reading the words - complies, dietary requirements - I knew you copied the answer 😛

You seem knowledgeable to me otherwise also... except when you go on and on about HR and Aish...

Busted. 😂 I‘m knowledgeable but extremely lazy. The forum is my time pass, I can’t commit to posts that will likely go on for 84 years. I also have a phobia of being quoted while I’m vulnerable and asleep, and not being conscious to defend myself.

I could say the same for you with Katrina. 😌

Beautifully explained by you, @Zeal17! 👏

Originally posted by: FingerFetish

Busted. 😂 I‘m knowledgeable but extremely lazy. The forum is my time pass, I can’t commit to posts that will likely go on for 84 years. I also have a phobia of being quoted while I’m vulnerable and asleep, and not being conscious to defend myself.

I could say the same for you with Katrina. 😌

There's nothing much to go on about Kat, that's the best part about her...

Originally posted by: TMKOC_MY

???

https://youtu.be/1XMvPTFzgVU

4:45 onwards....

Originally posted by: Zeal17

The negativity of word Kanyadaan stems from the narrow minded people who are stuck up on word Kanya and Daan.. but there is/was auspicious significance behind it. Girl is not praya dhan or being donated here. That is why mantra spoken at the time of Kanyadaan is different from all the mantras spoken at the time of donation/daan.. anyways let me get to the point where I show what it actually means..

In the religious realm, lucky are the parents who get daughters because they get the opportunity to purify their sins(even the one's made in previous births).

The bride is treated as incarnation of Goddess Lakshmi, not the so called objectification as people believe it today. So all the mantra's spoken at time of Kanyadaan are to seek blessings of the god that the parents of the bride have performed their responsibility of making Goddess Lakshmi meet the groom who is believed to be incarnation of God Vishnu. Parents of the bride have fulfilled their dharma, they have done the most divine act uniting Lakshmi back with her Vishnu and now the parents of daughter can attain Moksha..

One of the mantras literally means that parents are thanking god Vishnu for giving the opportunity to raise a daughter and now give rightfully back to him. As part of the cycle of birth and life to continue its important that Lashmi and Vishnu meet continue that cycle.

That is nice to read and thanks for sharing it. I did not know most of it. I then refered to this, and you are quite right: https://penguin.co.in/understanding-the-kanyaadaan-ceremony-an-excerpt-from-vedic-wedding-book/

But one point I still find troublesome.

With this in my mind, and with this ritual and before the ceremonial water is poured,

May I offer you, who are in the form of Vishnu, my daughter

in the form of Lakshmi.

Incarnation of Goddess Lakshmi (bride) is still being offered to incarnation of Vishnu (groom), while the opposite doesn't happen. It does come down to ownership of the woman being carried over from the parents to the groom and his family.

And that is also fine, really to an extent. The real problem IMO is, some of these rituals have gotten corrupted over time - by us practicing Hindus and the preachers, to suit one gender. Kanya being interpreted as Godess Lakshmi has led to the tradition of dowry which leads to other domestic crimes against women. There is no justification for dowry, especially in well off families, but it still happens even in the biggest metros and cities and with the richest families. Aur rural areas mein toh rehne hi do. And this is despite it being illegal.

The other issue is, there is no such tradition for the groom. The Groom is being called the all powerful Vishnu reincarnation and is not offered to incarnation of Goddess Lakshmi.

There are many such issues that have crept in which stand against women empowerment. If people in power positions are bringing light to it, I do not see a problem with it.

And to the people saying entertainment industry is Hinduphobic and has always been trying to put down Hindus. I think most of our movies and shows have Muslim villains, there are scenes showing Muslim villains / terrorists reading namaaz and then going out to kill innocents. indulging in illegal activities, etc. That is what the majority of the mainstream movies show and rightly so, because it reflects the reality of our times. If the same industry is showing the darker side of other religion, I do not see any issues in that because that too is a reality we live in

Originally posted by: Krishnapanchali

i dont see any beauty in karwachauth if its only wife fasting for her husband s long life while huband does not and i dont understand kanyadaan so will refrain from speaking on it

having said that i agree hindu religion is very liberal in lot of ways ( and regressive in other ways) it was even more liberal in ancient times we went from celebrating and worshiping every human emotion including kama to not talking about it in name of 'sanskar' the main reason for this being the mughal and british invasions

even calling your husband 'my lord" and not taking their name does not comes under "hindu sanskar" if one reads ancient text both draupadi and sita called their spouse by given name

also with all due respect i would like to see the reaction if any other religions revered figures called names that krishna gets called on daily basis or songs like "kalanki so and so" in the name of "creative liberty" and "freedom of speech" made about them kalanki means disgraceful bawal ho jayega

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/151580066

Historically, Karva Chauth was celebrated as a prayer for the long life of soldiers in the war, their wives would often pray for their safe return, and by extension today refers to the long life of a married husband.

The festival also coincides with the wheat-sowing time (i.e., the beginning of the Rabi crop cycle). Big earthen pots in which wheat is stored are sometimes called Karvas, so the fast may have begun as a prayer for a good harvest in this predominantly wheat-eating Northwestern region.

Another story about the origin of this festival relates to the bond of feminine friendship. With the custom of arranged marriage being prevalent, the newlywed is supposed to reside with her husband and in-laws. Being new to the family, the custom arose of befriending another woman as her friend (kangan-saheli) or sister (dharam-behn) for life. The friendship would be sanctified through a Hindu ritual during the marriage ceremony itself. The bride's friend would usually be of the same age (or slightly older), typically married into the same village (so that she would not go away) and not directly related to her in-laws (so there was no conflict of interest later). A few days before Karva Chauth, married women would buy new karvas and paint them on the outside with beautiful designs. Inside, they would put bangles and ribbons, home-made candy and sweets, make-up items, and small clothes. The women would then visit each other on the day of Karva Chauth and exchange these karvas.

This emotional and psychological bond would be considered akin to a blood relationship. It is said that Karva Chauth festival evolved to include celebrating this special bond of friendship.

Ahan! KC is very regressive.

Plus this post:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/151581470

Of course I will want my future wife to keep KC for me. I will also keep for her learning it from my brother who keeps every year with his wife.

What else this festival brings in my family... For my mother and sister in law in their busy lives, this festival gives them a reason to spend some time together shopping from what they gonna wear on that special day to everything that comes over pooja thali. On the very day they get up together for the sargi and eating before sunrise. Must say a very good bonding activity for newly weds and a ritual there on.

What else... yeah my sister in law when she went abroad... she used to tell her how loneliness she felt on foreign land but here come Karva Chauth she decides to visit temple and to her surprise many ladies are there celebrating together. She joins one of the groups... something interesting happens here... she suddenly has a large group to hang out now.

What else... oh yea... loving all the photos of my brother share of my niece wearing traditional dress and enjoying getting mehandi in her hands and playing with other kids while her mother doing her thing in the temple.

Such a vibrant festival is KC... that i refuse to see it as a social peril.. i see about love and enjoying little moments and bonds family together.

Originally posted by: Zeal17

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/151580066

Historically, Karva Chauth was celebrated as a prayer for the long life of soldiers in the war, their wives would often pray for their safe return, and by extension today refers to the long life of a married husband.

Girls are doing jobs which put them in danger as well now - the tradition should extend the other way really, else it will always be frowned upon as unequal and unfair. Rightfully so