Drinking the main cause of all Kapoors health issues... - Page 5

Originally posted by: jeetuji

Then why do Indians have such bad health? Its one of the worse in the world. Something is clearly wrong. Using two spoons of ghee per dish is very bad and average Indians uses way much oil, salts and sugars. Look at Indian street, everything is fried in tons of oil. Compare average Indian health to East Asian or European person, its horrible. Not sure which fantasy world you live in

Indians have bad health simply because of our bad health systems and the lack of annual checkups. Indians just do not believe in going to the doctor unless it is so bad that ghar ka nuska is not working anymore. Most countries you mention have annual health checkups in place, women regularly get check ups done based on gender and age and so do men. There is wellness check done yearly with vaccinations for children and adults, something the Indian health systems lacks completely. By the time the individual realizes he needs to go to the doctor, the damage is already done and there is only treatment. Annual checkups, labs and diagnostics for appropriate age groups is the only way our health index will get better. Our diet certainly suits our climate and households do not cook restaurant style oil-floating, ghee-dripping food everyday!!

Preventive medicine is the need of the Indian Health System

Originally posted by: pratts

Indians have bad health simply because of our bad health systems and the lack of annual checkups. Indians just do not believe in going to the doctor unless it is so bad that ghar ka nuska is not working anymore. Most countries you mention have annual health checkups in place, women regularly get check ups done based on gender and age and so do men. There is wellness check done yearly with vaccinations for children and adults, something the Indian health systems lacks completely. By the time the individual realizes he needs to go to the doctor, the damage is already done and there is only treatment. Annual checkups, labs and diagnostics for appropriate age groups is the only way our health index will get better. Our diet certainly suits our climate and households do not cook restaurant style oil-floating, ghee-dripping food everyday!!

Preventive medicine is the need of the Indian Health System

Preventive medicine will tell most people to change diet, exercise, lose weight, stop smoking, minimize alcohol, not to do drugs.

It's not a magical cure.

And Indian diet will very much remain something that needs to be changed.

Or Indians in western countries where they do have preventive medicine would be healthy because of Indian diet. Instead, Indian expats are among the unhealthiest in most countries even adjusting for meat-eating and other risks. Ie. Indian immigrant vegetarians with no other modifiable risk factors still remain at higher risk for vascular disease.

South Asians have a high prevalence of type 2 diabetes, even at a lower BMI.

So being a South Asian puts you at high risk for diabetes and heart diseases

On topic: It does seem the case that the Kapoors drink too much.

Near the topic: Let the man celebrate his birthday. At his age every birthday may be his last. Better to enjoy the day with their elders while they have the chance.

Off topic: I skimmed the article HearMeRoar posted. It was both shocking and kind of not. It is surprising that most people don’t get enough veggies. Not surprising the vegetables are overcooked and oily - that’s my experience. Yummy but not healthy. Here is the part of the article I’m referring to:

The rate of consumption of fruit and vegetables is low in India; this is contrary to the perception that Indians, being predominantly vegetarians, would consume adequate quantities of fruit and vegetables. The National Family Health Survey-3 (NFHS-3), a large nationally representative cross-sectional survey covering 156 316 individuals in India with self-reported data on consumption of fruit and vegetables, reported that half of the population in its survey consumed zero or only 1 serving of fruit in a week.48 The NFHS-3 also reported a social gradient in weekly consumption of fruit, with individuals in the lowest socioeconomic strata consuming a very low quantity of fruit. This is potentially explained by the high cost of fresh fruit and vegetables.55 In addition, the vegetables that are consumed are often overcooked in Indian meals, leading to vital loss of micronutrients.56 Even in the 2 most economically prosperous states, Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu, the WHO-recommended consumption of >5 fruits and vegetables daily is only observed among 24% and 1% of people, respectively.57

Time-series data on nutrient intake captured from the National Sample Survey Organization surveys indicate that, despite no significant change in total calorie consumption from 1972 to 2000, Indians’ fat intake increased from 24 to 36 g/d and from 36 to 50 g/d in rural and urban individuals, respectively.55 Partially hydrogenated vegetable oils with high trans fat content contribute to a significant proportion of total fat intake in Indians, and the consumption of partially hydrogenated vegetable oil is particularly common in urban adult slum dwellers belonging to the lowest socioeconomic status (SES).58,59 Although the percentage of carbohydrate intake has remained relatively constant, the consumption of refined grain products increased in comparison with the consumption of whole grains.55

Originally posted by: Nova19

On topic: It does seem the case that the Kapoors drink too much.

Near the topic: Let the man celebrate his birthday. At his age every birthday may be his last. Better to enjoy the day with their elders while they have the chance.

Off topic: I skimmed the article HearMeRoar posted. It was both shocking and kind of not. It is surprising that most people don’t get enough veggies. Not surprising the vegetables are overcooked and oily - that’s my experience. Yummy but not healthy. Here is the part of the article I’m referring to:

The rate of consumption of fruit and vegetables is low in India; this is contrary to the perception that Indians, being predominantly vegetarians, would consume adequate quantities of fruit and vegetables. The National Family Health Survey-3 (NFHS-3), a large nationally representative cross-sectional survey covering 156 316 individuals in India with self-reported data on consumption of fruit and vegetables, reported that half of the population in its survey consumed zero or only 1 serving of fruit in a week.48 The NFHS-3 also reported a social gradient in weekly consumption of fruit, with individuals in the lowest socioeconomic strata consuming a very low quantity of fruit. This is potentially explained by the high cost of fresh fruit and vegetables.55 In addition, the vegetables that are consumed are often overcooked in Indian meals, leading to vital loss of micronutrients.56 Even in the 2 most economically prosperous states, Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu, the WHO-recommended consumption of >5 fruits and vegetables daily is only observed among 24% and 1% of people, respectively.57

Time-series data on nutrient intake captured from the National Sample Survey Organization surveys indicate that, despite no significant change in total calorie consumption from 1972 to 2000, Indians’ fat intake increased from 24 to 36 g/d and from 36 to 50 g/d in rural and urban individuals, respectively.55 Partially hydrogenated vegetable oils with high trans fat content contribute to a significant proportion of total fat intake in Indians, and the consumption of partially hydrogenated vegetable oil is particularly common in urban adult slum dwellers belonging to the lowest socioeconomic status (SES).58,59 Although the percentage of carbohydrate intake has remained relatively constant, the consumption of refined grain products increased in comparison with the consumption of whole grains.55

Thank you for reading it. Yes, there is genetics involved in diabetes and smaller arteries and such, but the risk factors with re: diet and exercise very much remain. I'm going to assume the people claiming here Indian diet is the best, or that only certain regional cuisines have high fat and salt content in food, are among the educated lot. Looks like even they would rather wave the flag than worry about health. I come to IF purely for entertainment and don't usually bother to spend this long rebuting arguments, but I felt like the info needs to be left out here for peeps to see and decide for themselves.

Originally posted by: Nova19

On topic: It does seem the case that the Kapoors drink too much.

Near the topic: Let the man celebrate his birthday. At his age every birthday may be his last. Better to enjoy the day with their elders while they have the chance.

Off topic: I skimmed the article HearMeRoar posted. It was both shocking and kind of not. It is surprising that most people don’t get enough veggies. Not surprising the vegetables are overcooked and oily - that’s my experience. Yummy but not healthy. Here is the part of the article I’m referring to:

The rate of consumption of fruit and vegetables is low in India; this is contrary to the perception that Indians, being predominantly vegetarians, would consume adequate quantities of fruit and vegetables. The National Family Health Survey-3 (NFHS-3), a large nationally representative cross-sectional survey covering 156 316 individuals in India with self-reported data on consumption of fruit and vegetables, reported that half of the population in its survey consumed zero or only 1 serving of fruit in a week.48 The NFHS-3 also reported a social gradient in weekly consumption of fruit, with individuals in the lowest socioeconomic strata consuming a very low quantity of fruit. This is potentially explained by the high cost of fresh fruit and vegetables.55 In addition, the vegetables that are consumed are often overcooked in Indian meals, leading to vital loss of micronutrients.56 Even in the 2 most economically prosperous states, Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu, the WHO-recommended consumption of >5 fruits and vegetables daily is only observed among 24% and 1% of people, respectively.57

Time-series data on nutrient intake captured from the National Sample Survey Organization surveys indicate that, despite no significant change in total calorie consumption from 1972 to 2000, Indians’ fat intake increased from 24 to 36 g/d and from 36 to 50 g/d in rural and urban individuals, respectively.55 Partially hydrogenated vegetable oils with high trans fat content contribute to a significant proportion of total fat intake in Indians, and the consumption of partially hydrogenated vegetable oil is particularly common in urban adult slum dwellers belonging to the lowest socioeconomic status (SES).58,59 Although the percentage of carbohydrate intake has remained relatively constant, the consumption of refined grain products increased in comparison with the consumption of whole grains.55

Even the veggies Indians eat are deep fried or cooked in so much oil and salt, this is killing Indians. Indians have have one of the worst healths, I have seen even here in the west, they have the worst.

And yes, you are right, Indians hardly eat fruit or salads. I have some Iranian and Afghan friends, whenever I go to their houses, their foods are so healthier compared to us. They eat grilled meats, but they eat so many green veggies and fruits, they are so much healthier

I think it's obesity. No exercise and sedentary lifestyle. Add to it drinking, detrimental to health.

From the oldies, only Neetu is fit.

The main cause of ill health in indians is

1) sedentary life style in cities - parks are few no place to walk or excercise etc

2) Pollution of air by traffic

3) Pollution of food and water

4) Too crowded tough to excercise or walk anywhere without dashing into ppl

5) Industrial pollution smoke

6) Eating junk food from outside

7) Eating in hotel or roads that have unhygenic and bad quality of cooking

8) More oil, salt, sugar in food

9) Malnutrition - thin veins

Originally posted by: myviewprem

The main cause of ill health in indians is

1) sedentary life style in cities - parks are few no place to walk or excercise etc

2) Pollution of air by traffic

3) Pollution of food and water

4) Too crowded tough to excercise or walk anywhere without dashing into ppl

5) Industrial pollution smoke

6) Eating junk food from outside

7) Eating in hotel or roads that have unhygenic and bad quality of cooking

8) More oil, salt, sugar in food

9) Malnutrition - thin veins

Exactly and it's getting worse and worse, with no end in sight. back in the 1960's it was much better in India

Since 2 of the siblings died of Cancer, the next generation have to be vigilant about it too.