"SSR case was used to create mass hysteria, amounting to nothing" - Page 8

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

That’s true.. but somehow I feel that he was sensitive but he surely wasn’t foolish. He was in the industry long enough.. itni akkal aa jati h age ke saath.. he did manage to get movies, hardly anyone is as successful in making such a transition in a cut throat industry. All this requires people skills which he had.

His depression was from far deep rooted issues. These things may have triggered but can’t say if they are 100% responsible...

Precisely!

And here's the truth....straight from the horse's mouth!

Oh and the CBI is still alive, people!!!

https://twitter.com/njalva/status/1339884475572838402

https://twitter.com/srivatsayb/status/1339893823808307200

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Im not saying that these things don’t affect. Of course they do, but they aren’t alone responsible for driving someone to suicide. There are some intrinsic mental and personality traits that are responsible too. You can’t control the outside world, people will talk.. but bullying others for his suicide isn’t any better. People don’t realise it’s the same thing that they are accusing others of. I honestly don’t believe that “ignoring” spoken amounts to bullying. It really sounds silly and kiddish to me. Also there’s hardly any proof of what he went through in the industry. From what it seems like he was doing well.

Pls look at Utsav Chakraborty case and all others me too cases in and outside Bollywood. Many actors get sexually taken advantage off too, forgive me if I feel that going through a sexual assault is far more worse than being accused of rape merely based on “sources”. He may be vulnerable at that time, but that’s a different story. What I don’t understand is how accusing anyone randomly for his suicide is alright. It’s downright ridiculous. Not to undermine his suffering or pain but all this is nothing but speculation so what’s the point of blaming others and harassing other people?

All these people who are blaming others are the ones who made a Tamasha out of his death.

Alakh, I have to strongly disagree with you this time. I think you need to form a comprehensive understanding of what 'bullying' means. First of all, bullying has nothing to do with age. Anybody can be subjected to it---from teens to 60+ adults. Secondly, bullying does not only mean the high-school kind of bullying. Collective exclusion and silent treatment is also a kind of bullying, and they can break you from within. I know people who have experienced it. We don't use the words 'toxic workplace' for nothing.

Bullying comes in subtle and nuanced ways, and it can affect you in a horrendous manner. I do think Sushant was treated very unfairly by Bollywood. Now Rhea is a completely different story. Trolls started a smear campaign against her and ruined her life with lies. But the harassments and bullying stories are definitely not untrue.

Sorry for sounding insensitive in advance but its BS to blame the whole world for your problems. The man got lucky in so many ways, he was accepted by Bollywood. There's 100's of 1000's of outsiders trying to make it. Better looking, better actors. You have to be extremely LUCKY to make it.

Bullying! What bullying? The dude was invited to all the Kjo Parties in the beginning, he allegedly misbehaved with multiple actresses in his intoxicated state. Yeah that will certainly cancel your invitation for the next one.

I don't believe any of those blinds were false. They broke his addiction problems, later confirmed by the NCB. They broke his lavish party lifestyle which got him kicked out of his apartment. That was also proven true. The haunted story is BS. He got kicked out and lived at Rhea's apartment and later at a hotel for months before finding a place. The farmhouse blinds...also true. Confirmed by massive residue of all kinds of illegal substances found at the "Party house".

Even the Sanjana blind is probably true. Nobody waits a month to "Reveal the truth" because they don't have cell reception in the US. She was probably black-mailed or threatened of being kicked out of the film and had to release a half hearted statement. Even recently when asked, she very coldly said "I've said what I had to say...". Doesn't sound like someone who very much "Cared" for this man.

Serial dater, skirt chaser....all true. How many "actresses" alone has he dated in the last 2 years? Lets blame Sara Ali Khan for breaking up with him but give him a free pass for breaking up with all those other women. Oh, Ankita only has good things to say about him. Yeah she does now, making hay while the sun shines. She trashed him to oblivion after their break up.

I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was mentally unstable...which would justify some of these things. Respecting the dead doesn't mean painting them as Saints...he wasn't.

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

I’m sorry for your loss.. I agree harassment is real, but I don’t see any harassment in his case, other than defamation, but if they are untrue and affected him, there’s a legal course that can be followed. Hritik did the same, remember Kangana left no stone unturned to humiliate him and accuse him every chance she got.

But how is not getting invited to parties harassment? I see people complain about not being in the ‘in crowd’.

To me it always looked like he was lonely and he never got over loosing his mother at a tender age.

Not once did I say invitation to parties can be termed as deliberate exclusion. I was extremely specific.

I am talking about myself who unfollowed him and cursed him over me-too. I am talking about not even a mere mention of his existence in Kedarnath when he was the one giving his heart and soul. I am talking about shelving or replacement even when posters were out. I am talking about writing him as an unworthy outsider. I am talking about him being called as overachiever. I am talking about him being called a skirt chaser. Whether someone accepts it or not, amongst all his generation, he was on receiving end for many things. No mention of him being a part of women empowerment, no mention of his charities, no mention of education initiatives, no mention of his courteous behaviour albeit, an arrogant problematic outsider.

Imagine being called as a rapist while being a part of women empowerment. Or calling your achievements, undeserving.

These may not be the cause. You are right. But sure, a catalyst. I had been consistent about his probable emotional instability after he lost his mother suddenly at a tender age of 16 just after talking to her previous night. Still, some people do get over the loss. Some don't. An already sensitive person being subjected to everything above mentioned has to be called out. Abhishek Kapoor, his mentor, doesn't need any attention or media hog or fan sympathy. And if he says sushant was targeted, to an extent it was breaking his confidence piece by piece, I believe him.

Again, not a cause. A catalyst.

He wasn't a saint. But wasn't an evil either.

But then, let's stick to our versions.

I don't wish to impose my opinion on you or anyone because we all make sense in our own heads and we are all right in our own perspectives. ❤️

Originally posted by: Haila_tu

Sorry for sounding insensitive in advance but its BS to blame the whole world for your problems. The man got lucky in so many ways, he was accepted by Bollywood. There's 100's of 1000's of outsiders trying to make it. Better looking, better actors. You have to be extremely LUCKY to make it.

Bullying! What bullying? The dude was invited to all the Kjo Parties in the beginning, he allegedly misbehaved with multiple actresses in his intoxicated state. Yeah that will certainly cancel your invitation for the next one.

I don't believe any of those blinds were false. They broke his addiction problems, later confirmed by the NCB. They broke his lavish party lifestyle which got him kicked out of his apartment. That was also proven true. The haunted story is BS. He got kicked out and lived at Rhea's apartment and later at a hotel for months before finding a place. The farmhouse blinds...also true. Confirmed by massive residue of all kinds of illegal substances found at the "Party house".

Even the Sanjana blind is probably true. Nobody waits a month to "Reveal the truth" because they don't have cell reception in the US. She was probably black-mailed or threatened of being kicked out of the film and had to release a half hearted statement. Even recently when asked, she very coldly said "I've said what I had to say...". Doesn't sound like someone who very much "Cared" for this man.

Serial dater, skirt chaser....all true. How many "actresses" alone has he dated in the last 2 years? Lets blame Sara Ali Khan for breaking up with him but give him a free pass for breaking up with all those other women. Oh, Ankita only has good things to say about him. Yeah she does now, making hay while the sun shines. She trashed him to oblivion after their break up.

I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was mentally unstable...which would justify some of these things. Respecting the dead doesn't mean painting them as Saints...he wasn't.

Sanjana wrote good things about Sushant after his demise. No girl will ever write anything good about her molester.

Ankita did not thrash him to oblivion after their break up. She did nothing compared to what Deepika did with Ranbir.

He was not a saint nor an evil.

Originally posted by: Mahisa22

Alakh, I have to strongly disagree with you this time. I think you need to form a comprehensive understanding of what 'bullying' means. First of all, bullying has nothing to do with age. Anybody can be subjected to it---from teens to 60+ adults. Secondly, bullying does not only mean the high-school kind of bullying. Collective exclusion and silent treatment is also a kind of bullying, and they can break you from within. I know people who have experienced it. We don't use the words 'toxic workplace' for nothing.

Bullying comes in subtle and nuanced ways, and it can affect you in a horrendous manner. I do think Sushant was treated very unfairly by Bollywood. Now Rhea is a completely different story. Trolls started a smear campaign against her and ruined her life with lies. But the harassments and bullying stories are definitely not untrue.

Well, then let’s agree to disagree here.

Originally posted by: Haila_tu

Sorry for sounding insensitive in advance but its BS to blame the whole world for your problems. The man got lucky in so many ways, he was accepted by Bollywood. There's 100's of 1000's of outsiders trying to make it. Better looking, better actors. You have to be extremely LUCKY to make it.

Bullying! What bullying? The dude was invited to all the Kjo Parties in the beginning, he allegedly misbehaved with multiple actresses in his intoxicated state. Yeah that will certainly cancel your invitation for the next one.

I don't believe any of those blinds were false. They broke his addiction problems, later confirmed by the NCB. They broke his lavish party lifestyle which got him kicked out of his apartment. That was also proven true. The haunted story is BS. He got kicked out and lived at Rhea's apartment and later at a hotel for months before finding a place. The farmhouse blinds...also true. Confirmed by massive residue of all kinds of illegal substances found at the "Party house".

Even the Sanjana blind is probably true. Nobody waits a month to "Reveal the truth" because they don't have cell reception in the US. She was probably black-mailed or threatened of being kicked out of the film and had to release a half hearted statement. Even recently when asked, she very coldly said "I've said what I had to say...". Doesn't sound like someone who very much "Cared" for this man.

Serial dater, skirt chaser....all true. How many "actresses" alone has he dated in the last 2 years? Lets blame Sara Ali Khan for breaking up with him but give him a free pass for breaking up with all those other women. Oh, Ankita only has good things to say about him. Yeah she does now, making hay while the sun shines. She trashed him to oblivion after their break up.

I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was mentally unstable...which would justify some of these things. Respecting the dead doesn't mean painting them as Saints...he wasn't.

Respecting the dead means just one thing. RESPECTING.

That's all.

😊

I don't want to cross you because sure you must have had reasons to say everything that you said so if you think this quote was in anyway offending, I am sorry. ❤️

Originally posted by: Haila_tu

Sorry for sounding insensitive in advance but its BS to blame the whole world for your problems. The man got lucky in so many ways, he was accepted by Bollywood. There's 100's of 1000's of outsiders trying to make it. Better looking, better actors. You have to be extremely LUCKY to make it.

Bullying! What bullying? The dude was invited to all the Kjo Parties in the beginning, he allegedly misbehaved with multiple actresses in his intoxicated state. Yeah that will certainly cancel your invitation for the next one.

I don't believe any of those blinds were false. They broke his addiction problems, later confirmed by the NCB. They broke his lavish party lifestyle which got him kicked out of his apartment. That was also proven true. The haunted story is BS. He got kicked out and lived at Rhea's apartment and later at a hotel for months before finding a place. The farmhouse blinds...also true. Confirmed by massive residue of all kinds of illegal substances found at the "Party house".

Even the Sanjana blind is probably true. Nobody waits a month to "Reveal the truth" because they don't have cell reception in the US. She was probably black-mailed or threatened of being kicked out of the film and had to release a half hearted statement. Even recently when asked, she very coldly said "I've said what I had to say...". Doesn't sound like someone who very much "Cared" for this man.

Serial dater, skirt chaser....all true. How many "actresses" alone has he dated in the last 2 years? Lets blame Sara Ali Khan for breaking up with him but give him a free pass for breaking up with all those other women. Oh, Ankita only has good things to say about him. Yeah she does now, making hay while the sun shines. She trashed him to oblivion after their break up.

I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was mentally unstable...which would justify some of these things. Respecting the dead doesn't mean painting them as Saints...he wasn't.

Know the facts.. He himself never addressed the rumors going round. It was only when there was a paid twitter trend with #metoo he took a stand for himself and showed the chats between her and him because what else could he do? His team stated they tried to contact Sanjana but she was not available and it was only after 4 days of Sush posting those chats she denied the rumors. He couldn't sleep for those 4 days and was even planning to take legal route to clear his name.

Also Sanjana had no reason to go out of her way and make video with her fake crying ( faker than Kim's ass) and say all those things about him if he had really molested her.

A guy who is always the target of blinds and was barely 5 year old in the industry will threaten a girl to shut her mouth especially when everything was in her favour ( metoo was going very strong then)?

See this is the extent of harm done by such rumors. Even after his death, even after everyone from his co stars on Dil Bechara sets to his close friends to even the actress dismissing the rumor so many people still believe that he did molest her.

Also the language used. Skirt chaser why because he dated his co stars? When you work on a set for months you tend to grow closer.. He was an interesting guy and it's understandable if girls were attracted to him and vice versa. How does that make you skirt chaser? or pervert.. Was he sleezily going after these ladies. Also during promotions the ladies always seemed more than comfortable with him.. He was very respectful towards,would let them talk without cutting them in between, and always genuinely praise them. He probably a great bf too just because the relationships didn't work out ( for reason one should nit assume) doesn't mean he was not one.

About him leaving apartment. He was living in that place for over year and a half before Rhea came along. He used to live with 5 boys so why didn't his neighbours had problem with him and his partying then? If he was indeed thrown out of apartment then maybe his new company ( Rhea and gang) were the problem and not him. Anyway to clear that Pithani in his statement to CBI has clearly confirmed about him feeling house was haunted and not just him but according to Pithani both Rhea and her Bro have often complained about his falt being haunted (Looks like Rhea was mentally unstable too)..

Also with this post you are not just being insensitive but justifying everything that was written against him, something that added to his mental turmoil. It's not about respecting the dead but being a decent human for once.

Originally posted by: buttercups2020

Not once did I say invitation to parties can be termed as deliberate exclusion. I was extremely specific.

I am talking about myself who unfollowed him and cursed him over me-too. I am talking about not even a mere mention of his existence in Kedarnath when he was the one giving his heart and soul. I am talking about shelving or replacement even when posters were out. I am talking about writing him as an unworthy outsider. I am talking about him being called as overachiever. I am talking about him being called a skirt chaser. Whether someone accepts it or not, amongst all his generation, he was on receiving end for many things. No mention of him being a part of women empowerment, no mention of his charities, no mention of education initiatives, no mention of his courteous behaviour albeit, an arrogant problematic outsider.

Imagine being called as a rapist while being a part of women empowerment. Or calling your achievements, undeserving.

These may not be the cause. You are right. But sure, a catalyst. I had been consistent about his probable emotional instability after he lost his mother suddenly at a tender age of 16 just after talking to her previous night. Still, some people do get over the loss. Some don't. An already sensitive person being subjected to everything above mentioned has to be called out. Abhishek Kapoor, his mentor, doesn't need any attention or media hog or fan sympathy. And if he says sushant was targeted, to an extent it was breaking his confidence piece by piece, I believe him.

Again, not a cause. A catalyst.

He wasn't a saint. But wasn't an evil either.

But then, let's stick to our versions.

I don't wish to impose my opinion on you or anyone because we all make sense in our own heads and we are all right in our own perspectives. ❤️

You are not saying but these are the grounds at which many so called fans are accusing people left and right, hating and cursing .. I’m no fan, but does Alia and the like deserve to be criticised? Yes! Trolled and hated? No.