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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: MayaJaiSingh

Can we for once stop blaming everyone? What is with people bullying Alia, Kjo, Deepika. I remember on the day Sushant died, they took big vows on internet how one should not bully celebs and it might affect their mental health. Now what are the doing? Bullying everyone from Kjo, Ranveer to SRK, Deepika. We can't blame anyone here without concrete proofs. Posting a 7 year old clip from a talk show or an award show isn't any proof or justification to bully anyone or held someone responsible for another person's death.

Please remember even if its nepotism or lack of opportunities that's responsible for his depression, we din't show that outrage earlier or supported him earlier. Even though multiple articles had come up about him losing movie deals etc to Ranveer and the likes many ignored that, instead people here as well as on other SM platforms chose to believe those blinds that called him a Me too accuser , sexual predator, womanizer, attention seeker etc etc. We should not act holier than thou by just accusing celebs (without proofs) for his death when the fact is we all as viewers also failed him. So i think all this blame game is utter rubbish, people on social media just need a reason to blame others for their own wrong doings.


(Posting my write up from the other thread)

THIS !!


People have gone crazily overboard now. Straight up accusing Karan and his gang , Salman for murdering him . We don't even know if his professional life was the catalyst which led him to take such a step.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Bullies cause depression, depression causes suicide.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

I was actually against the pile on happening. KJo, Alia, Ranbir, all the junior Alias, Sonam, Sonakshi, etc. seem to be dim bulbs with an inflated opinion of themselves. They're quite pathetic, actually. SSR was by all accounts an intelligent man. The nepo gang was likely threatened and resorted to mean girl tactics.


They were in all likelihood too dumb to realize these things have consequences. Or that these things have consequences they would be forced to see unlike the death of a driver or a maid which would get swept under the carpet. Or that the consequences would cause a public outcry.


Problem is I assumed they all had consciences and would be feeling horribly guilty.


Seeing the amount of support they're getting in this forum and the kind of arguments made, I have to assume a certain amount PR involvement and coordination.


Excuses thus far:


1. Oh, they simply didn't invite him to parties

2. Oh, it's the producers money, and he's entitled to hire who he wants.

3. Oh, the audience should've gone to watch his movies.

4. Oh, how do you know for sure the blinds came from nepo gang?

5. Oh, isn't this bullying, too?

6. Oh, what if one of the nepo gang does the same tomorrow?

7. Oh, he was already crazy.


1. First of all, untrue. They did a lot more than not invite him. Secondly, imagine being in an office, and every party, you're the only one not invited. Yeah, not cool.

2. When the producer puts financial and work-poltical pressure to not hire an actor considered a threat to one of his gang, then it's a problem. Adi Chopra for all practical purposes damaged SSR's career to favor Ranveer's. How many movies did SSR lose after Chichore's success?

3. Audience did go to watch his movies. SSR gave hit after hit. Unfortunately, the film fraternity either ignored his success, dismissed it as due to other factors, or gave credit to people like Sara.

4. The nepo gang is vicious but utterly dumb and so confident of their ability to escape consequences, they admitted on television they spread rumors and and blinds.

5. Yes, it is bullying to do the same to you. I hope it doesn't go too far, but having a small taste of the same medicine might help you think twice because you clearly don't have the emotional depth to feel guilt or remorse or empathy.

6. If one of you tries this tomorrow, there will be a lot of guilt to pass around. Problem is there is no other way of making you face up to what you did. Problem is also that the coordinated PR campaign you're running here and on other social media sites tells the world that YOU don't feel any guilt in which case the pile on is entirely justified.

7. Do you have a heart? If you knew it already, why deliberately make it worse? Or is it that you're doing one final smear campaign against him to escape the consequences of your actions? NOTE: This is not to avoid acknowledging the very real problem of mental illness. This is to call out the insinuations of "too unstable to work with" put about by Bhatt camp and the like.


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I still want to believe the mean girl gang was vicious but too dumb to realize the consequences of their actions. I still want to believe they feel some amount of guilt. So I'll again say this. The gang did not directly cause SSR's problems. Their behavior made it worse, but they couldn't have been expected to know.


Still, those arguing that KJo, Adi Chopra, Ranbir, Ranveer, Alia, Sonam, Sonakshi, junior Alias et al did nothing wrong are doing so with the benefit of hindsight. They're making that argument despite seeing the very real consequence. If this is not PR and simply members posting... I don't know what goes on in your real lives, so I'll refrain from making comments on the behavior. Try to find some sorrow in your hearts for the life lost, the potential lost.


Add #8 to my list. Well, why didn't you speak up for Sushant before? This from people ostensibly his fans.


Where to begin? You don't have to be a fan to speak up against injustice. You can actually think he was scum (not saying he was) and still see the unfairness of what happened. And yeah, most people have lives and may not have bothered to pay attention until something like this shocks their ever-lovin' minds.


Frankly, this ludicrous excuse-making exercise on why public shouldn't be objecting to the mean girl gang (or cartel as Pritish Nandy called it) is very much giving the vibe of damage control PR.


It isn't working. Not right now anyway. Do yourself a favor and stop with the absolute idiocy in telling the public they shouldn't be angry now because they weren't angry before. Because what it tells us is that you feel no guilt, no remorse, no shame, and no empathy. You're right in that this is no longer about Sushant alone. This has become an outcry against bullying, emotional abuse, and elitism of those backed by the might of money.


Who knows how long it will last? People might forget in a few weeks. I hope it lasts at least long enough to drive some truths into the thick heads of KJo, Ranbir, Ranveer, Alia, Deepika, Sonakshi, Sonam, Alia junior's, Adi Chopa, et al. You ain't any better or any worse than the rest of us. Stop with your brainlessness and your heartlessness.


Edited to add: #9. People are doing it because they don't like the nepo gang. Not because they actually feel strongly against injustice.


Seriously? SOME people are doing that out of dislike. Some aren't. Even for those who are, so? I don't like Angeline Jolie. If she does something bad tomorrow, and I go to court against it, does that make my case any less valid?


If I were them, I'd fire the whole PR team. The right thing to do now would be to issue a statement via a spokesman, saying the death came as an immense shock, and while they have heard the public outrage, they don't have much to offers at this time except prayers. At some point, when the pain is not so fresh, they will consider saying more.


#10. KJo, etc are big companies. They're entitled to do what they want.


Two-fold answer, again. The public has brains unlike what the big companies believe. It just takes a lot to wake up the common man. Well... he is awake now, at least for the next few days. And he has as much right to call you out AND punish you with his wallet.


The second part of the answer is a actually, no. KJo, etc are governed by the same laws as the rest of us. Bullying, emotional abuse, knowingly causing mental harm... these are crimes in the U.S. I don't know about India. Public is clearly saying they should be. There is an actual crime involved. COLLUSION and ANTITRUST laws. If the government wishes to subpoena phone records of these big companies and start questioning people on who made certain demands on hiring or not hiring, they could very well prove collusion. Then, KJo and his ilk will be in BIG trouble.


I would strongly recommend his PR folk to check with legal before making such claims on social media that they're entitled to do what they want. The law of the land says no.

Edited by HearMeRoar - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar


Add #8 to my list. Well, why didn't you speak up for Sushant before? This from people ostensibly his fans.


Where to begin? You don't have to be a fan to speak up against injustice. You can actually think he was scum (not saying he was) and still see the unfairness of what happened. And yeah, most people have lives and may not have bothered to pay attention until something like this shocks their ever-lovin' minds.


Frankly, this ludicrous excuse-making exercise on why public shouldn't be objecting to the mean girl gang (or cartel as Pritish Nandy called it) is very much giving the vibe of damage control PR.


It isn't working. Not right now anyway. Do yourself a favor and stop with the absolute idiocy in telling the public they shouldn't be angry now because they weren't angry before. You're right in that this is no longer about Sushant alone. This has become an outcry against public bullying, emotional abuse, and elitism of those backed by the might of money.


Who knows how long it will last? People might forget in a few weeks. I hope it lasts at least long enough to drive some truths into the thick heads of KJo, Ranbir, Ranveer, Alia, Deepika, Sonakshi, Sonam, Alia junior's, Adi Chopa, et al. You ain't any better or any worse than the rest of us. Stop with your brainlessness and your heartlessness.

This, I am tired of telling this to people again and again.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Weird how did this thread shrink overnight!


Makes you wonder doesn’t it ? Looks like were being “monitored” and suppressed here too. Instagram is deleting comments, IF is doing it too. Kahan jaye phir ?


A few of my posts are missing lol....I didn’t use any bad language or trolling .... am I on someone’s hit list now?

Edited by Shaitan-Haiwan - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

And may I ask what this “anger” is heading towards?

It’s more of a targeted hate to individuals ppl don’t like, and less of a ideology/ viewpoint change.

Aalias getting hate about playing kill Marry hookup on kwk and saying kill Sushant. And for being a “princess”. That deserves mass hate. Ya ok.

Tomorrow let’s run a rally against Mukesh ambani for being a prince.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: pathaka

And may I ask what this “anger” is heading towards?

It’s more of a targeted hate to individuals ppl don’t like, and less of a ideology/ viewpoint change.

Aalias getting hate about playing kill Marry hookup on kwk and saying kill Sushant. And for being a “princess”. That deserves mass hate. Ya ok.

Tomorrow let’s run a rally against Mukesh ambani for being a prince.


Mukesh Ambani isn’t closing down small businesses or family run businesses. Learn the difference between things and then give examples.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan


Mukesh Ambani isn’t closing down small businesses or family run businesses. Learn the difference between things and then give examples.

Oh really?

Aliaa is closing down small films or actors?

Ur argument is that she “gets everything on a platter” ...mukesh ambani got it all on a platter too. ur gonna say it’s ok for them to get vile comments coz they are rich? Privilidged? Get things easier than others who spend a lifetime to earn a few lakhs?


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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: pathaka

Oh really?

Aliaa is closing down small films or actors?

Ur argument is that she “gets everything on a platter” ...mukesh ambani got it all on a platter too. ur gonna say it’s ok for them to get vile comments coz they are rich? Privilidged? Get things easier than others who spend a lifetime to earn a few lakhs?



These are rhetorical questions.

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Posted: 5 years ago

This is big embarrassment for these celebs.


It is one of the first real time experiences for the public to see the growing unpopularity.

It is herd mentality.It is the new trend.people follow blindly like a herd.

This is their image now.They will be never be able to shake it off.

Nepo gang is over.No one wants to be part of that bandwagon anymore.


Millions are spent on creating an image..obviously it is worth the money.

It took Sushant's death to unravel it.

Media will watch their word now.You will see a shift in Masand and Anupama's attitude.They are going to get mauled on YT,if they go soft on nepo kids.They will watch who will be interviewed by them

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