Unnecessary hatred against Alia and Kjo - Page 20

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Once again I have answered all your questions. The meritless claims that Kangana had something that made people defend and rave about her all she had was a bigger mouth. I explained and analyzed Karan’s strategies for manufacturing consent. I didn’t refuse to not accept anything. It’s not because you are disagree with me it’s because you refused to give a good reason to defend an idiot like Karan.

I have refuted every meritless claim you made to defend his bullying. To point other people praised my patience. Refusing to rant about the right things that you ? Nepotism and bullying is wrong and I will always rant against it. Multiple parties where at play to stop buzz. But again if Sushant lacked star quality as you claimed he wouldn’t have succeeded films wise despite all odds. Name another new comet that achieved his level of success. Once again no star kid measures to the dust underneath his shoes in terms of star qualities . I say that not because I am a fan of his but how meritless the starkids are.

Lol okay bask in the glory of those “praises” u received. Thanks.

And sure go ahead and think if me as a karan fan who paid me to come on here and praise him...ironic since I’ve been here for the past 9 effing years and shit on karan multiple times.

Merit less claims ...oh sure . And u have all the merit. Kthanxbye

I have made my points aswell. Chose to believe whatever u want to.
toodles (oh damn ...that must definitely make me a karan supporter)

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Originally posted by: pathaka

he did multiple times speak up...Chek his interviews ...Bollywood Hungary film companion all of Them...he spoke up
It is indeed heartbreaking coz no one gave a shit despite that

and I just said, active sabotage can be condemned and should be what part of that wasnt clear?

I said bringing aliaa or sonams knowledge of him or their dating preferences should become a point to Steer this discussion on

That's not speaking up. Like that everybody gets questioned what do u think about nepotism ? That's not speaking up.Speaking up is narrating self injustice.... kangana spoke what she felt at every level be it abusive relationship in Bollywood .... Nepotism in Bollywood .... People listen when u scream .... Not everyone likes doing that because then u r cheap few minutes fame psycho . But instead of silently going through pain and ending urself in pain it's better to speak and called psycho.

Originally posted by: Pain-in-ur-Neck

Why can't both happen simultaneously?! We can educate ourselves, we can rectify our mistakes, we can also learn to make this space more healthier and less toxic but that doesn't excuse KJo and other BW biggies from their share of responsibilities!

So many times its been already clarified by many how calling KJo or others as murderers isn't the solution to the problem, but them receiving the backlash just may save a life tomorrow. Ofc the focus is calling out the toxic work environment these biggies have created and it doesn't include just 1 person, hence the entire fraternity is getting called out via some of the big names!

Not taking a stand against the obvious bullying and expecting us to share the "same responsibility" as the ones who actually are guilty of running the messed up system isn't the solution either!

Absolutely..and so I did say they def must have been a reason for his mental trauma.Infact not a single person is denying that.Sure they should be called out but simultaneously we must have a look at ourselves..We must also bring a change in ourselves by being a lil bit less harsh n critical.We go so far sometimes in pulling down an actor while discussing about movies n their life..I have seen that so many times on IF only..that needs to stop.If not equally we(all users of IF,Insta,Twitter ,FBetc)surely contribute to the pressure that they go through.

“The genuine change must first come from within the individual, only then can he or she attempt to make a significant contribution to humanity.“

As tapsee said, be the Change u want to see.

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Originally posted by: pathaka

Lol okay bask in the glory of those “praises” u received. Thanks.

And sure go ahead and think if me as a karan fan who paid me to come on here and praise him...ironic since I’ve been here for the past 9 effing years and shit on karan multiple times.

Merit less claims ...oh sure . And u have all the merit. Kthanxbye

I have made my points aswell. Chose to believe whatever u want to.
toodles (oh damn ...that must definitely make me a karan supporter)

Also would be nice if u don’t put words in my mouth. I never ever said sushanth didn’t have star capabilities I said no one here at least saw it. I saw it and created topics feel free to check the history.

Originally posted by: Unconventional

Absolutely..and so I did say they def must have been a reason for his mental trauma.Infact not a single person is denying that.Sure they should be called out but simultaneously we must have a look at ourselves..We must also bring a change in ourselves by being a lil bit less harsh n critical.We go so far sometimes in pulling down an actor while discussing about movies n their life..I have seen that so many times on IF only..that needs to stop.If not equally we(all users of IF,Insta,Twitter ,FBetc)surely contribute to the pressure that they go through.

“The genuine change must first come from within the individual, only then can he or she attempt to make a significant contribution to humanity.“

What Mahatma Gandhi said about "Be the change you wish to see" sounds very poetic and philosophically beautiful!

But how does this negate culprits' contribution or his bullying ways?! It doesn't. You can work on yourself but you can't work on others nor can you force them!

Reason why we have criminals and law!

If we start chanting the same shizz "Be the change" to negate a criminal's actions, it doesn't punish the criminal! He's getting scott free from his consequences!

So what you're suggesting is good for general shaping of the society but NOT when it comes to culprits accountability!

You can't negate BW's bullying and their pressure tactics to cut someone short with "Be the change"!

So I am still very firm that BW industry as the whole getting the backlash just may help change the toxic environment for future SSRs! And that system can only be targeted by targeting the big names which run the system!

^^ by all means target them...

Just don’t bring some random video from 5 years ago abt so n so not wanting to date him and account that as bullying.. when we continue to play kill marry hookup games in this very forum

Agree.

Alia lost some half million followers.Something touched a nerve and people are reacting very harshly.

They wont care. They can always buy followers. Few weeks all will be forgotten. They know that.

But F saje I hope they will stop their shady ways. Cant expect they will suddenly start respect others. But at least stop shady monopoly. That's enough.