Unnecessary hatred against Alia and Kjo - Page 21

Sadak 2 is a true blue Nepo product.

Kjo produces Alia's films..as if that is not enough,her own father is directing a film,produced by her uncle.The cast has other nepo kids like ARK,Sanju,Pooja..

Lets see what social media says and that is the audience for OTT films.

Damage has certainly been done.There used to be Suhana,Aryan fanclubs..now people don't want be seen doing that anymore.It may be their guilty secret..but would definitely not flaunt it like before.

Tough times ahead for nepotism flag bearers.The have to fight hard.

https://twitter.com/Altafrana_/status/1273135321048375298?s=19

Kjo said in past interview that usne theka nahi le rakha newcomers ka fine but can he stop bullying them.

This is not about any Kjo or alia or salman or bhansali

If you see even some bollywood insiders have had negative campaigns against them before

I can say Bollywood has campaigned against sunny deol in 90s no matter how good he acted or how success his movie was he was treated as out cast and never given his due except one or two. No wonder sunny never went for any awards show ever

The same campaign happened against govinda is 90s who was much better actor than a srk, salman but never got any award etc

Same way ajay devgan was not given his due except here and there. he also boycotted awards show

In 90s only before bobby deols movie released also these people started a campaign against him that his movie is not good and a flop and he was a bad actor etc

Same thing happened to akshay khanna and many more in 1990s

So this is not about outsider v/s insiders

This systematic campaign has been going on since 1990s only against many insiders too they make or destroy careers easily.

Whoever some big shots in bollywood like they propel up and whoever they dislike they flop

In 2000s a campaign started for ranbir kapoor propelling him as best actor ever in bollywood although his 10-15 movies flopped non stop. I have seen ranbir movies i do not think hes better than akshay khanna, hrithik, ranveer or rajkumar rao etc Hes an average actor who always looks brooding always in many scenes. Hes average at most propelled by bollywood because hes an kapoor. Same for kareena and karishma etc average at most over acting most times. Hes not a dilip kumar or amitabh bachchan kind of all rounder at all for him to be called super star nor he has box office pull ability for average movies that they had. Even worst scripts movies would become hit by their names. Tahn why hes called super star over a rajkumar rao, sushant, ayushmann, hrithik and all who have better hits and movies?

This is happening again and again its just that now in 2020 people are more educated and more social media so highlighted more thats all

Otherwise just count and see campaigns against so many have destroyed careers

Do not get me started on heroines how many have careers destroyed for rubing some male ego wrong ways its a very big list

Can we for once stop blaming everyone? What is with people bullying Alia, Kjo, Deepika. I remember on the day Sushant died, they took big vows on internet how one should not bully celebs and it might affect their mental health. Now what are the doing? Bullying everyone from Kjo, Ranveer to SRK, Deepika. We can't blame anyone here without concrete proofs. Posting a 7 year old clip from a talk show or an award show isn't any proof or justification to bully anyone or held someone responsible for another person's death.

Please remember even if its nepotism or lack of opportunities that's responsible for his depression, we din't show that outrage earlier or supported him earlier. Even though multiple articles had come up about him losing movie deals etc to Ranveer and the likes many ignored that, instead people here as well as on other SM platforms chose to believe those blinds that called him a Me too accuser , sexual predator, womanizer, attention seeker etc etc. We should not act holier than thou by just accusing celebs (without proofs) for his death when the fact is we all as viewers also failed him. So i think all this blame game is utter rubbish, people on social media just need a reason to blame others for their own wrong doings.

(Posting my write up from the other thread)

Originally posted by: myviewprem

This is not about any Kjo or alia or salman or bhansali

If you see even some bollywood insiders have had negative campaigns against them before

I can say Bollywood has campaigned against sunny deol in 90s no matter how good he acted or how success his movie was he was treated as out cast and never given his due except one or two. No wonder sunny never went for any awards show ever

The same campaign happened against govinda is 90s who was much better actor than a srk, salman but never got any award etc

Same way ajay devgan was not given his due except here and there. he also boycotted awards show

In 90s only before bobby deols movie released also these people started a campaign against him that his movie is not good and a flop and he was a bad actor etc

Same thing happened to akshay khanna and many more in 1990s

So this is not about outsider v/s insiders

This systematic campaign has been going on since 1990s only against many insiders too they make or destroy careers easily.

Whoever some big shots in bollywood like they propel up and whoever they dislike they flop

In 2000s a campaign started for ranbir kapoor propelling him as best actor ever in bollywood although his 10-15 movies flopped non stop

This is happening again and again its just that now in 2020 people are more educated and more social media so highlighted more thats all

Otherwise just count and see campaigns against so many have destroyed careers

True about the credit. But no one went to an extent to break other careers. Media was not powerful. People had only tv and cinema. Times were different.

Now people are denied work. A big problem.

Originally posted by: Pain-in-ur-Neck

What Mahatma Gandhi said about "Be the change you wish to see" sounds very poetic and philosophically beautiful!

But how does this negate culprits' contribution or his bullying ways?! It doesn't. You can work on yourself but you can't work on others nor can you force them!

Reason why we have criminals and law!

If we start chanting the same shizz "Be the change" to negate a criminal's actions, it doesn't punish the criminal! He's getting scott free from his consequences!

So what you're suggesting is good for general shaping of the society but NOT when it comes to culprits accountability!

You can't negate BW's bullying and their pressure tactics to cut someone short with "Be the change"!

So I am still very firm that BW industry as the whole getting the backlash just may help change the toxic environment for future SSRs! And that system can only be targeted by targeting the big names which run the system!

Never denied that and never will.😊

Originally posted by: anubolly

True about the credit. But no one went to an extent to break other careers. Media was not powerful. People had only tv and cinema. Times were different.

Now people are denied work. A big problem.

But recently govinda came on a dance show he said that he never got credit except love of ppl, he said he never got best musicdirector, singers, directors etc it hurts all life when he could never reach his real potential

same for sunny deol or ajay or askhaye khanna, bobby deol etc

they may never say in public but it hurts them for sure

not everyone can say like a govinda in public truth

even in 90s work was denied to many they never spoke in public thats all

Like because of sunny deol fight with yash raj, bobby never worked in dharma and yash raj productions

even amir had fight with yash raj and had not worked with dharma and yash raj etc for long

no one says in public its understood

they are banned by banners unofficially

just to save grace they may say no good script or we do not want to work there ourself

But truth is they are banned bec of issues

They are insiders so not publicised openly like they did for sushant

but its understood

this was happening too much in 1990s and early 2000s

even awards only dharma and yash raj hero/heroines get not others

meenakshi never got for damini, sunny deol never got for ghatak i mean did madhuri and srk act better than these two characters to deserve it

if you watch who got and who did not get awards we can know caliber and who deserves easily

I mean you get national award for same movie but not a filmfare or other bollywood awards how come?

I know they are not to be blame for his death but deep down I feel they deserve it, for bitching / gossiping about others and stealing work. When they themselves have to beg for work and outsiders will be laughing and gossiping abt them, then they will realised how it feels. I wish this day would come where star kids will think 10 times before entering bollywood.

Weird how did this thread shrink overnight!

Originally posted by: pathaka

Thank you. And agreed with every word of it.
I remember during msd days, I was surprised no one made topics abt Sushant and the one or two odd ones ppl were like “he isn’t great” “he dosent have the star quality” “he’s not that good looking” and what not

now all of A sudden the narrative is flipped and ppl act like they were deprived of this talented mans works coz of koffee with karan painting him in bad light...sab kwk Dekh me behek Gaye?

It’s either of the three things

- he didn’t catch our attention as much as someone like ranveer ...accept and introspect that we are the kind of ppl who only give attention to the seekers

- he did catch our attn, but we ignored in which case, how is that any better than what kjo and aalia are being accused of? Take responsibility and share that hate to urself

- ppl Genuinely didn’t think he was all that ...in which case this whole marketing conspiracy is futile since the audience themselves wasn’t interested.

Well it's weird because many people didn't know about his interesting and unique personality before this and I saw so many people who are actually attracted to him now after knowing these things about him.. The reason for audience indifference is lack of promotion and the negative image created by blinds. In last few years I can't think of any actor who was defamed so much without any proof. Heck even the #metoo thing was a blind and the actress never accused him. Rajeev Masand's silence is a big proof of how responsible he is for brutally sabotaging his image.

There is no doubt that he was made to feel unwanted by the industry.