Unnecessary hatred against Alia and Kjo - Page 19

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Again people did go watch his movies. If they didn't showcase concern. Once again we weren't aware of what he was being put through. Shekhar Kapoor brought those to light. And I hope you are willing to admit that you are trying to defend the bully here. You honestly think everything that goes on with KWK is preference than Aamir really find Alia the hottest along with Katrina and Deepika. You yourself said he tried to get Deepika praised more due her being their friends find. You don't think it was a part of deliberate marketing strategy to hide theres. You said it yourself he would invite everyone successful who follows his rules. Sushant never questioned or challenged Karan Johar and he was a success movies wise. Than why wasn't he invited? Why did people have to pretend like they didn't know who he was when his films where fairing better than his? I refused to believe it was just people's preference and none of it was deliberate. If people knew he was being sabotaged they would have stood up for him the way the stood up for Kangana. Problem was Sushant was too innocent to speak up.

Look at this woman. Karan got forced to apologize to her due to the people support she got. Because he was wrong plain and simple.

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Exactly she got ppl support ...the same ppl also made her get the national award 3 times...because they raved about her...they wrote articles abt her ...her being the feminist icon of sorts...people rallied and fought back when she was critisised for not speaking English properly ...despite kjo and his choices they didn’t give a shit

Did all of the above happen with sushanth? Was his people impact strong enough like kangana? Did they rally behind him and leave national awards committees with no choice but to give him recognition?

and for the 500th time, him dictating terms in the industry and telling others what to do is bullying. Malingering someone else with rumours is bullying.
Shit on him.

Him making his shows , his movies with the actors he wants to and praising them, is his choice.u elevate the ppl u like.

Originally posted by: rkisnothot

How is someone else's opinion unfair? It's just an opinion. Seemed like he fit the types of movies he was doing. A good nice reliable star but not a superstar.

Arjun and Aditya don't deserve to be in any movies because they suck. But unlike the mob that seems to be a rampage right now all over the internet, I think producers can waste their money wherever they want. How are you going to dictate to others how they spend their money?

I haven't seen most of Arjun's movies either. I fell asleep during Malang so I have no major interest in Aditya either.

Nobody denies nepotism. But I just think it's a normal part of life. I just don't watch the films that I'm not interested in. I saw Dhadak because I was interested in Sridevi's daughter but she was horrible in it. So I skipped Ghost Stories. The power is in our hands.

You were asking the right question. How are you dectating others on how they spend money?

This is the problem in bollywood. Few big wigs not only push their people through this movies, but manipulate others to push the same choices. When ever some small time director delivers a good film , they take them under themself by offerings money on their next and ask to cast their people only. If some thing big still working out , they try to snatch those movies. If still not working out, they try to defund that project.

So independent outsiders have to settle on first time film makers and small projects only.

Big endoseme ts a are currently handled by big wigs. For awards they offered package deals. Like get this actor and this actress for this price. We will promote it here etc..

This is far beyond than nepotism. This is about power plays and controling every aspect of that You seem not wanting to agree. it's your opinion. Fair enough.But its true.

Peace.

Sushant was never playing the victim card or talk like Kanfana. People were not aware. That's why people are so angry.

People loved him too. Watched his movies too. His last movie was a super hit.His success was never celebrated in media. Hence no rctra interest was generated. I would blame power plays than the general public who liked him and made his movies hits.

Originally posted by: pathaka

Exactly she got ppl support ...the same ppl also made her get the national award 3 times...because they raved about her...they wrote articles abt her ...her being the feminist icon of sorts...people rallied and fought back when she was critisised for not speaking English properly ...despite kjo and his choices they didn’t give a shit

Did all of the above happen with sushanth? Was his people impact strong enough like kangana? Did they rally behind him and leave national awards committees with no choice but to give him recognition?

and for the 500th time, him dictating terms in the industry and telling others what to do is bullying. Malingering someone else with rumours is bullying.
Shit on him.

Him making his shows , his movies with the actors he wants to and praising them, is his choice.u elevate the ppl u like.

Once again I told you the difference she had skin thick enough and brave enough to stand up for herself. He didn’t! This woman also doesn’t attend award function other than the national awards because she rightly claims they are run by the nepotism mafia and they are. People wrote articles about her because she talked about her struggles. Sushant didn’t. She herself pointed out on KWK how Karan bullied her due to her english speaking ability. Sushant didn’t.

Him having a talk show that creates controversy and buzz about Bollywood that leaves out outsiders and pretends like their invisible the way Sonam did is a deliberate marketing strategy along with planting stories. Him having everyone praise his favorites without any merit for how hot they are is marketing strategy. He had an agenda he promotes with his show. That is what is wrong. If he just wanted to hang out with his favs it would be a different story.

And what makes such an ardent Karan supporter may I ask? Do you consider him a man of good character ? Self made? Or talented ? Don’t tell me you think he is intelligent ?

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Once again I hate to say but I do feel some of the people here are paid to work for Karan. I no way am ready to believe a loser like him has that many ardent supporters who will defend him tooth and nail to excuse him of bullying ?

How convenient ...label anything not aligning with u as being karans camp bravo. Yes he pays me . Wanna check my account?

Refuse to see the complexities ...what is and isn’t bullying. Refuse to rant abt the right things and go ask for bans on kwk, and nepo movies. Refuse to see the flaws on the consumers end and blame the suppliers for inducing that need and seducing us. Refuse to see perspective and a larger picture where everyone is interlinked and multiple parties are at play...and rant about insignificant things like someone’s dating preferences.

Bravo

Originally posted by: pathaka

Exactly she got ppl support ...the same ppl also made her get the national award 3 times...because they raved about her...they wrote articles abt her ...her being the feminist icon of sorts...people rallied and fought back when she was critisised for not speaking English properly ...despite kjo and his choices they didn’t give a shit

Did all of the above happen with sushanth? Was his people impact strong enough like kangana? Did they rally behind him and leave national awards committees with no choice but to give him recognition?

and for the 500th time, him dictating terms in the industry and telling others what to do is bullying. Malingering someone else with rumours is bullying.
Shit on him.

Him making his shows , his movies with the actors he wants to and praising them, is his choice.u elevate the ppl u like.

Sushant dint speak up so what happened with him isn't heartbreaking ? People would have supported him if he spoke. When the interviewer was asked to attend sharaddha or Sara only not Sushant ....all this functioning is power play. Not letting him work with others due to contract but cancelling the project ....all this is power play .... Choice isn't about ruining people s career.

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Once again I told you the difference she had skin thick enough and brace enough to stand up for herself. He didn’t! This woman also doesn’t attend award function other than the national awards because she rightly claims they are run by the nepotism Mafia and they are. People wrote articles about her because she talked about her struggles. Sushant didn’t. She herself pointed out on KWK how Karan bullied her due to her English speaking ability. Sushant didn’t.

Him having a talk show that creates controversy and is about Bollywood that leaves out outsiders and pretends like their invisible the way Sonam did is deliberate marketing strategy along with planting stories. Him having everyone praise his favorites without any merit for how hot they are is marketing strategy. He had an agenda he promotes with his show. That is what is wrong. If he just wanted to hang out with his favs it would be a different story.

And what makes such an ardent Karan supporter may I ask? Do you consider him a man of good character ? Self made? Or talented ? Don’t tell me you think he is intelligent ?

acc to sushanths intervirws he called out nepotism multiple times. So what’s this abt he never spoke abt his struggles? All his interviewed have suddenly been circulating for the past few days

Karan having his agenda means shit if people didn’t agree with it. Case in point kangana.

And I just asked u to shit on him for the right reasons and u think I’m a karan fan? Rofl

very convinient *slow claps*

Originally posted by: tanvismile

Sushant dint speak up so what happened with him isn't heartbreaking ? People would have supported him if he spoke. When the interviewer was asked to attend sharaddha or Sara only not Sushant ....all this functioning is power play. Not letting him work with others due to contract but cancelling the project ....all this is power play .... Choice isn't about ruining people s career.

he did multiple times speak up...Chek his interviews ...Bollywood Hungary film companion all of Them...he spoke up
It is indeed heartbreaking coz no one gave a shit despite that

and I just said, active sabotage can be condemned and should be what part of that wasnt clear?

I said bringing aliaa or sonams knowledge of him or their dating preferences should become a point to Steer this discussion on

Originally posted by: pathaka

How convenient ...label anything not aligning with u as being karans camp bravo. Yes he pays me . Wanna check my account?

Refuse to see the complexities ...what is and isn’t bullying. Refuse to rant abt the right things and go ask for bans on kwk, and nepo movies. Refuse to see the flaws on the consumers end and blame the suppliers for inducing that need and seducing us. Refuse to see perspective and a larger picture where everyone is interlinked and multiple parties are at play...and rant about insignificant things like someone’s dating preferences.

Bravo

Once again I have answered all your questions. The meritless claims that Kangana had something that made people defend and rave about her all she had was a bigger mouth. I explained and analyzed Karan’s strategies for manufacturing consent. I didn’t refuse to not accept anything. It’s not because you are disagree with me it’s because you refused to give a good reason to defend an idiot like Karan.

I have refuted every meritless claim you made to defend his bullying. To point other people praised my patience. Refusing to rant about the right things that you ? Nepotism and bullying is wrong and I will always rant against it. Multiple parties where at play to stop buzz. But again if Sushant lacked star quality as you claimed he wouldn’t have succeeded films wise despite all odds. Name another new coming outsider that achieved his level of success. Once again no star kid measures to the dust underneath his shoes in terms of star qualities . I say that not because I am a fan of his but how meritless the starkids are.

Originally posted by: pathaka

acc to sushanths intervirws he called out nepotism multiple times. So what’s this abt he never spoke abt his struggles? All his interviewed have suddenly been circulating for the past few days

Karan having his agenda means shit if people didn’t agree with it. Case in point kangana.

And I just asked u to shit on him for the right reasons and u think I’m a karan fan? Rofl

very convinient *slow claps*

Post an interview here and I will tell you the difference between him and Kangana.