Unnecessary hatred against Alia and Kjo - Page 15

Originally posted by: pathaka

I can vouch for it. People here actually looked down on him since he was a tv actor and that he was too “overconfident” since he said his and Salman from sultan were the best performances of the year in Twitter chat. His impact in dhoni was underplayed. most recently go read the main tera boyfriend thread when the song promo released. Ppl ripped him apart since his dancing looked “forced”

I’ve heard it countless times on this forum and it has nothing to do with his personal life. I dunt follow anyone’s personal life anyway.

I refuse to believe ppl suddenly love him and want to see more of him and not aliaa or whoever. When they had him , they didn’t appreciate. They didn’t love him. For whatever reason.
Let’s accept that and not act like Bollywood bullying stole him away from us and we loved him all along. If we did, he’d probably not have to beg for ppl to watch his movies on insta

Again I was a silent reader on the Jhalak forum. People in seasons after him would compare the dances back to his because there was huge consensus about him being a fan dancer . No judge from the Jhalak panel disputed nor did any of the viewers. You been looking for someway to free the Nepo mafia of blame. After you failed with KWK just being a stupid show looks like I gave you a lead by saying I ignored him. Again I never bashed him there were many people just like that. If they noticed him it they would be saying the same things they are now.

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Again I don’t doubt people looked down on him. But I refuse to believe one can objectively claim that his dancing, acting, looks were not at par or superior to star kids.

Sushant if anything looked extra shy and scared since he entered the industry. TV actors in general are looked down upon and bashed because they had annoying fans. I’m sure some fandoms were envious that there own star wasn’t getting a break. Once again that bashing died down. He kept proving himself time and time again. People just didn’t pay him attention because besides that abusive blinds. He didn’t manage to create buzz because he didn’t have the means. Being invited and interviewed by a stupid person like Karan would have been one way too. Another reason I feel it was a marketing strategy .

Again from his Kis Desh days many found him attractive. Perceptions like that don’t change. Example would be Alia she has been considered ugly since the day she entered and still is.

U can refuse to believe it but how many ppl had nice things to say abt him during raabta? They said he tried to be charming like saif and failed since he isn’t as charming as saif

That’s just one of the many examples ...I always found him adorable but not many shared my views. And that’s a fact coz I used to be on his discussion threads as I was interested in his work. No one showed any interest.

which is why I find all the rage about his talent all the more eye roll worthy...like where was everybody just a few months ago even?

Originally posted by: pathaka

- ppl Genuinely didn’t think he was all that ...in which case this whole marketing conspiracy is futile since the audience themselves wasn’t interested.

That one for me. Speaking strictly for myself. I had no dislike towards him, I never called him Susu and I never participated in any blinds or any Ankita-related hate either. But I also didn't watch many of his movies and out of the ones I watched, the only one I remembered or made any impact on me was Dhoni. I only watched Chichore after his death in his honor because the story never interested me earlier. It feels inappropriate to say but I thought he was just alright in it. His acting was good in the younger parts but unconvincing when he played the older man.

All in all, I thought he was just okay. I had no dislike towards him but had no love for him either. He was just another actor amongst many others. His fame level and the types of movies he got seemed appropriate for his skill level. I wasn't rooting for him to get bigger or smaller.

Same for his looks - he was fine. I never thought he was ugly and he had nice enough features but I wasn't attracted to him personally.

All the conspiracy theories of sabotage make no sense to me. It looked like he was getting the types of fame and films that were appropriate for his talent level.

Originally posted by: pathaka

U can refuse to believe it but how many ppl had nice things to say abt him during raabta? They said he tried to be charming like saif and failed since he isn’t as charming as saif

That’s just one of the many examples ...I always found him adorable but not many shared my views. And that’s a fact coz I used to be on his discussion threads as I was interested in him. No one showed any interest.

Again I am not denying everything you are saying. No one showed any interest because there was never any buzz. Once again that proves my point about their being a deliberate marketing campaign to hide. Agreed Saif was an insider having charm requires confidence that Sushant might have lacked. But what your also trying to imply that the opinions about his qualities also changed now. That is nowhere near true. He was one of the most acclaimed dancers both in Zara Nach Ke Dikha and in Jhalak. I have posted videos of memorable performance. Go read the comments. He was a trained dancer. Shamak wouldn't have taken him as a backup so many times if he wasn't good. Again he wouldnt have gotten as much critical acclaim as he did if he wasn't good actor. He wouldn't have done so well with so many forces against him.

One excuse after another to free Karan of blame. You are saying that someone without the help of Johar made so big if everyone genuinely thought he wasn't star potential. Even if there were bashing threads here when did ifey become the voice of the real world. I am not saying he was perfect. But saying the appreciation for his qualities just came about is wrong. Its been there for quite some time now.

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Again I was a silent reader on the Jhalak forum. People in seasons after him would compare the dances back to his because there was huge consensus about him being a fan dancer . No judge from the Jhalak panel disputed nor did any of the viewers. You been looking for someway to free the Nepo mafia of blame. After you failed with KWK just being a stupid show looks like I gave you a lead by saying I ignored him. Again I never bashed him there were many people just like that. If they noticed him it they would be saying the same things they are now.

Bollywood isn’t the same as jhalak. I am not ridding the nepo gang of blame. And u didn’t give me any leads and I didn’t “fail”arguing with u...just because I don’t keep quoting u again and again and arguing abt the same things.

I just glaringly see the hypocrisy of people who didn’t give enough shit to watch his movies or discuss them, but r quick to jump on producers who didn’t sign him ...really if he was that talented his movies should have at least opened well or been discussed/ hyped on this forum forget everywhere else

Originally posted by: pathaka

Bollywood isn’t the same as jhalak. I am not ridding the nepo gang of blame. And u didn’t give me any leads and I didn’t “fail”arguing with u...just because I don’t keep quoting u again and again and arguing abt the same things.

I just glaringly see the hypocrisy of people who didn’t give enough shit to watch his movies or discuss them, but r quick to jump on producers who didn’t sign him ...really if he was that talented his movies should have at least opened well or been discussed/ hyped on this forum forget everywhere else

Again if people done give enough shit to watch his movies. Why were 80 percent of them successes? Why did his film chichore do better than gully boy? Again Gully Boy was hailed as the film of the year. But Chicore did better in terms of box office success? Why? People don't know about this because the Bollywood insiders weren't hammering down its success.

Bollywood isn't the same as Jhalak. All I am saying his there was broad based consensus about his dancing skills. There always has been. No said he lacked in those. Considering how many insiders have two left feat. No one would say that about train dancer like him which is what you tried to allude to. If his dancing was forced who acclaimed in every dance show more trained than many star kids what would that make the people with two left feat.

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Again I am not denying everything you are saying. No one showed any interest because there was never any buzz. Once again that proves my point about their being a deliberate marketing campaign to hide. Agreed Saif was an insider having charm requires confidence that Sushant might have lacked. But what your also trying to imply that the opinions about his qualities also changed now. That is nowhere near true. He was one of the most acclaimed dancers both in Zara Nach Ke Dikha and in Jhalak. I have posted videos of memorable performance. Go read the comments. He was a trained dancer. Shamak wouldn't have taken him as a backup so many times if he wasn't good. Again he wouldnt have gotten as much critical acclaim as he did if he wasn't good actor. He wouldn't have done so well with so many forces against him.

One excuse after another to free Karan of blame. You are saying that someone without the help of Johar made so big if everyone genuinely thought he wasn't star potential. Even if there were bashing threads here when did ifey become the voice of the real world. I am not saying he was perfect. But saying the appreciation for his qualities just came about is wrong. Its been there for quite some time now.

excuse me...Karan is not being freed of any blame. U a toll don’t understand the pony

He’s being freed of needless hatred when all of us are perpetuators of his so called power. We watch his films and shows . We make them as big as they are. Karan dosent ask u to. So hate urself And The forum just as much as u hate him

Releasing bad pr articles and actively calling up people to not take sushanth (if that happend) is wrong and deserves to be condemned. Not coz it influences anybody but because it’s none of his business to tell someone else whom to take...or to circulate false rumours abt someone

if he asks a bunch of people on his “powerful “ show again the one we made powerful ...some rapid fire questions with an actors name thrown in. Asks Them to rank them, date them blab..u really think that’s strong enough to convince the audience off not liking someone they supposedly love?
shraddha is not figured in any of his lists and she’s going well for herself coz ppl like her...same with Tiger...

Out of the 10 films Sushant Singh Rajput did, at least 8 were critical and/or commercial successes. That is an 80 percent success rate. Better than many star kids.

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Bollywood isn't the same as Jhalak. All I am saying his there was broad based consensus about his dancing skills. There always has been. No said he lacked in those. Considering how many insiders have two left feat. No one would say that about train dancer like him which is what you tried to allude to. If his dancing was forced who acclaimed in every dance show more trained than many star kids what would that make the people with two left feat.

read this and the comments underneath

Tell me how many appreciated hrithik and how many sushanth ...u will get ur answers abt these so called people who questioned his skills ...these aren’t my opinions it’s just a random u tube vidro

https://youtu.be/DIP2LEyjiM0