For people who say 'Its just a movie' - Page 6

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Did Preeti ever saw Kabir as this psychologically abusive boyfriend ..if yes then I agree with u but if preeti is fine with him ,then who r we to decide fr her ..

And the irony is she takes a flight and goes all the way to masoorie to meet her psychologically abusive boyfriend ..

Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

I've actually said Safeena was abusive plenty of times on this very forum. And if anybody had a problem too they could make themselves known. How is that reasoning enough to say we can't criticise Kabir's glorification.

Originally posted by: jyoti06

1)Fr me icing the dick in public and a girl masturbating in private both r fine bec in the end both r shown on screen to the public as part of story telling ..in both cases the person was not able to control the desire and lust ..fact that many critics defend one but call out on the other shows the selective bias is what I pointed out

2)When the girl pushed him back after he takes out knife ,he goes out of her house ..He dont really go ahead and actually strip her ..Now the point about cheating which I made here is simply bec I can see u r quick to jump on a man's flaw but same time defending a women's flaw ..if kabir was wrong of scaring her with a knife then girl was equally wrong to call a druggie to her house fr sex . Why will u risk your life & call a psychopath to your house in 1st place ??

3)Do u realise in the process of bashing Kabir u just ended up defending the other douchbag who actually attemped to molest Preeti in the name of hurting kabir..fr me that other guy is perfect example of a douchbag ..Even kabir can go and do the same attempt on that guy's GF mayb which he dint but had he done it ,will u bring the same defence fr kabir ?

4) As senior when Kabir took that authority in college saying Preeti is mine ,why dint Preeto say no to her ..On what basis we r assuming that Preeti was not interested & dint really enjoyed the attention that a senior college topper was giving her ?? Also claim on a girl like animal? Dont u think u r simply overexaggerating here 😆..

Lets agree to disagree mayb

Originally posted by: Charaiveti

ummmm masturbating in public is illegal actually 😔

When its shown in movie nothing remains private ..the entire cinema hall including men and women sees it and judges it ..

Originally posted by: jyoti06

When its shown in movie nothing remains private ..the entire cinema hall including men and women sees it and judges it ..

Originally posted by: jyoti06

1)Fr me icing the dick in public and a girl masturbating in private both r fine bec in the end both r shown on screen to the public as part of story telling ..in both cases the person was not able to control the desire and lust ..fact that many critics defend one but call out on the other shows the selective bias is what I pointed out

2)When the girl pushed him back after he takes out knife ,he goes out of her house ..He dont really go ahead and actually strip her ..Now the point about cheating which I made here is simply bec I can see u r quick to jump on a man's flaw but same time defending a women's flaw ..if kabir was wrong of scaring her with a knife then girl was equally wrong to call a druggie to her house fr sex . Why will u risk your life & call a psychopath to your house in 1st place ??

3)Do u realise in the process of bashing Kabir u just ended up defending the other douchbag who actually attemped to molest Preeti in the name of hurting kabir..fr me that other guy is perfect example of a douchbag ..Even kabir can go and do the same attempt on that guy's GF mayb which he dint but had he done it ,will u bring the same defence fr kabir ?

4) As senior when Kabir took that authority in college saying Preeti is mine ,why dint Preeto say no to her ..On what basis we r assuming that Preeti was not interested & dint really enjoyed the attention that a senior college topper was giving her ?? Also claim on a girl like animal? Dont u think u r simply overexaggerating here 😆..

Lets agree to disagree mayb

1. What Kabir does is public indecency noway comparable to a woman exploring her sexuality. I will have you know the amount of times men on the streets who touch their dicks or grind looking at women. Buses,trains,market places. These things are reported everyday. So what Kabir does is blatant public indecency and nothing to do with sexual exploring in one's home.

2. What kinda man pulls a knife and asks a woman to 'open'. I should be glad he didn't rape her? When she says no,THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IT. Nobody gets to pull a knife on someone for sex. That guy's ass needs to be in jail just because of that. The woman's flaw is cheating and the man's flaw is what.. trying to get sex outta pulling a knife? Those two can't be equated. I have said nothing about his alcohol abuse cause that's a flaw. Pulling a knife on a woman for sex is not a flaw. ITS LITERALLY HORRIFYING AND CRIMINAL.

3. Nope. I didnt support the molester at all. That molester and Kabir's alpha male egos got Preeti molested. She became a pawn in their testosterone game. Their proverbial dick measuring contests got Preeti hurt.

4. Kabir was a literal bully. Did she say yes I'll be your girlfriend when he staked her claim like an animal. Did he ask her or take her consent? The onus is on him since he made the claim. And Preeti literally got verbally degraded by him in public where he said she's nothing but his Bandi. That's her identity. I mean we understand what kinda absolute doormat Preeti from this alone. So bringing Preeti here to justify Kabir's caveman ways won't do. Not really. He took advantage of being a senior. He misused her position as a teacher and senior.

Originally posted by: Beautyful_Mess

No, it's an SRK fan who thinks Shahid's success would somehow hurt Veer, which will avenge the injustice done by Ranveer. 😆

And this statement is a total lie and distortion of fact , he/she is the biggest srk basher on the forum and i will not believe that you being an old member are not aware of this .

let's just make it interesting and say it's only one or the other ranveer fan who is having a problem with this movie and shahid's success ...TM happens to be a ranveer fan too 😆

Originally posted by: jyoti06

When its shown in movie nothing remains private ..the entire cinema hall including men and women sees it and judges it ..

So you're saying that if a movie shows two people fcking in the privacy of their homes and two people fcking right on the streets is the same thing? Really?

Originally posted by: Charaiveti

that's not how it works. Movie can show something as a private moment,which will be judged diffently, but if how as a public moment it'll be judged differently. Context matters bcz none of the actors r actually masturbating. What matters is one is doing it in her home like any other normal people and other in public which breaks rules against public obscenity as per the film's narrative.masturabting is not a crime it's a natural phenomenon,but if you're doing it in a public place you get arrested. And as per film context ,Kabir should have faced that consequence not make it seem like something cool. I hope no guy sees this n jerks off in public bcz it's uncomfortable for everyone. And if u r jerking off to someone in front of them without consent, that's sexual harassment

A boy jerked off in ACE engineering coaching centre sitting beside me. I didn't understand what happened to him. I asked him if he was ok. He said he was fine. I had a doubt that , he might be doing just that but I refused to believe. I reasoned that no one would do such a thing in public but I was so wrong. Such a perverted idiotic man.

Originally posted by: angrybread

And this statement is a total lie and distortion of fact , he/she is the biggest srk basher on the forum and i will not believe that you being an old member are not aware of this .

let's just make it interesting and say it's only one or the other ranveer fan who is having a problem with this movie and shahid's success ...TM happens to be a ranveer fan too 😆

Don't reduce actual criticism into some stan contest. What kinda ridiculousness is this forum. Pathetic. I shouldn't even indulge shit like this but for your two brain cells let me just state this I like Ranveer as an actor yes but I have stated numerous times over the years that Shahid is a far superior actor. So don't reduce my actual problem with glorification with misogyny with some stupid shit like this and that person's fan. I ain't like folks here who think they are doing god's work defending their fave like they pay their bills or shitting on others actors just because. Never once have I shit on Shahid here but even he knows better am sure. He's good as Kabir and I would have loved if the movie was a hit based on lessons and repentance and redemption of Kabir and not because of glorification of masculinity. So keep your stanshit theory to yourself.

Aah and let me just say this just because. When the padmavaat episode happened, I was supporting Shahid. When peeps said Ranveer could do Kaminey better, I supported Shahid. Just recently when that Ranveer could do KS better I supported Shahid. Even Shahid fans on the forum would attest to this. What a bunch of bs.