For people who say 'Its just a movie' - Page 5

Originally posted by: Charaiveti

I don't understand how masturbation n consensual sex are comparable to abuse harassment n molestation. 🙄

Kabir putting ice was called out ..so i spoke of masturbation ..

Coming to abuse ,harassment & molestation..mayb I saw a differrnt kabir singh bec i dint see any molestation or harassment here coming fm Kabir ..harassment & molestation is what that other dude did to Preeti during holi festival when Kabir comes to her rescue ..Unless the girl says it loud or show it with her actions ,u cannot accuse the man ..

Yes kabir abused a lot ..and i dont support him here ..his abuse and alcohol/drug addiction costed him his career ..

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Kabir putting ice there was a prob ..so i spoke of nasturbation ..

Coming to abuse ,harassment & molestation..mayb I saw a differrnt kabir singh bec i dint see any molestation or harassment here ..harassment & molestation is what that other dude did to Preeti during holi festival when Kabir comes to her rescue ..Unless the girl says it loud or show it with her actions ,u cannot accuse the man ..

Yes kabir abused a lot ..and i dont support him here ..his abuse and alcohol/drug addiction costed him his career ..

Originally posted by: Charaiveti

As for safeena I didn't like that character at all. Irl such a partner would be so suffocating n scary actually.

I've actually said Safeena was abusive plenty of times on this very forum. And if anybody had a problem too they could make themselves known. How is that reasoning enough to say we can't criticise Kabir's glorification.

Originally posted by: Charaiveti

I saw him as all that only. Also by abuse I don't mean cursing, cursing is not something I judge honestly. I mean he had all signs of being an psychologically abusive boyfriend. Liek the Edwards n Jason deans

Did Preeti ever saw Kabir as this psychologically abusive boyfriend ..if yes then I agree with u but if preeti is fine with him ,then who r we to decide fr her ..

And the irony is she takes a flight and goes all the way to masoorie to meet her psychologically abusive boyfriend ..

Well is masterbation of a girl and a man slapping a girl a same thing? 😳

I haven't seen Kabir Singh yet but saw the promos. I'm happy for Shahid and Kiara that they received their due appreciations. But coming to this so called YouTuber, roaster, does he really knows any manner? Does he really knows how to roast? Roasting doesn't mean only abuse and rubbish talk. An YouTuber can put the truth with a lot more decency in front of public. There are lot of good roasting videos without abuse and ill- mannerisms.

This video should be reported not because it's on anti- critics but the way he put that.

Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

Sucharita's hypocrisy has nothing to do with my post. Look at his reasoning at what Kabir does. He can point out whatever the hell he wants about Suchitra but his reasoning of why Kabir Singh does what he does is the entire point of the post. Look at the amount of men agreeing to his reasoning. Everyone watching this movie isnt a MCP nowhere have I said that. Don't pull moronic statements outta your ass. But seeing the movie and thinking there was nothing wrong with the way he was glorified, the way he treated Preeti like a territory and he a territorial dog who pisses on it is wrong. Its the celebration of Kabir Singh's character and how much of a 'stud' or masculine he is by doing the things he did. Listen to the actual problem rather than making stupid conjectures about critics' opinions. Sucharita could be biased as hell I don't even follow her reviews but her points on Kabir Singh are absolutely correct.

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I don't see any point in taking his exaggerated rant and twisting it to support Tyagi's points. Tyagi made different claims in different videos , in one she is saying one person applauded the slap scene, in another video with NDTV, she says a group of men applauded it. Why should I trust someone who is manipulating incidents trying to justify her point??

[BR]And no for me, Suchitra, just like her boss is a hypocrite, who acts all holy when the darkness is in the other side, while when night comes in her area she sleeps with her blanket on. So yeah, I don't agree with her points where she is trashing one product while for another acts blind.

Originally posted by: MishaNavi

Many women are 'fine' with putting up with abusive boyfriends. That's because they are so brainwashed that they don't understand they are abused. That's called Stockholm Syndrome.

Did u see the movie ? If yes then u will know well the nuances of their relation & wont see that one slap as abuse ..Its not like throughout the movie Kabir kept beating preeti & she silently took his abuse ..

Abusive relation is something that was shown in movies like Nana Patekar Manisha starrer Agni sakshi or that Arbaaz Juhi movie Daraar ...

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Kabir putting ice was called out ..so i spoke of masturbation ..

Coming to abuse ,harassment & molestation..mayb I saw a differrnt kabir singh bec i dint see any molestation or harassment here coming fm Kabir ..harassment & molestation is what that other dude did to Preeti during holi festival when Kabir comes to her rescue ..Unless the girl says it loud or show it with her actions ,u cannot accuse the man ..

Yes kabir abused a lot ..and i dont support him here ..his abuse and alcohol/drug addiction costed him his career ..

Let me counter your points.

Kabir icing his dick scene is in public. Its no way comparable to a masturbation scene in one's home lol like nobody would have a problem if he did that shit at home.

And a girl may cheat on her thousand boyfriends and want casual sex but SHE SAID NO TO KABIR and THAT STILL STANDS like what the hell are you trying to say with your cheating on her boyfriend conjecture. Kabir literally points a knife and asks her to 'open' when she asks him to leave. That's terrifying.

And you do understand that Preeti was attacked because that guy wanted to hurt Kabir through hurting her. Here's a thought. Maybe if he didn't behave like an animal marking his territory a girl who doesn't know him at all it wouldn't have happened in the first place. She got molested by someone because Kabir tried to be a alpha male moron. Then he played hero, her savior.

And if I remember correctly Preeti went to visit him after their relationship was solidified. She didn't take advantage of seniority like Kabir,literally didn't stake claim on a girl like an animal first day of college, didn't use her position to push her tharki agenda. All of this Kabir does.

Problem is Indian youth instead of seeing him as a flawed character who is pretty much an asshole is seeing Kabir Singh as a "hero" or this cool edgy character who they sympathize with. I wonder how will the girls who are appreciating or defending this movie react if they come across such intimidating, posessive guys who mark them as "meri bandi" and continue to court them until they finally submit to them. Imagine living with a mentally unstable physical abuser and people around you praising him for his "coolness" or "badassery". In a country where people are easily influenced by movies and pop culture how can Bollywood think a movie like Kabir Singh is not problematic. Just hear the last words of this filthy creature " Hum sab mei ek Kabir Singh hai"🙄

Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

Let me counter your points.

Kabir icing his dick scene is in public. Its no way comparable to a masturbation scene in one's home lol like nobody would have a problem if he did that shit at home.

And a girl may cheat on her thousand boyfriends and want casual sex but SHE SAID NO TO KABIR and THAT STILL STANDS like what the hell are you trying to say with your cheating on her boyfriend conjecture. Kabir literally points a knife and asks her to 'open' when she asks him to leave. That's terrifying.

And you do understand that Preeti was attacked because that guy wanted to hurt Kabir through hurting her. Here's a thought. Maybe if he didn't behave like an animal marking his territory a girl who doesn't know him at all it wouldn't have happened in the first place. She got molested by someone because Kabir tried to be a alpha male moron. Then he played hero, her savior.

And if I remember correctly Preeti went to visit him after their relationship was solidified. She didn't take advantage of seniority like Kabir,literally didn't stake claim on a girl like an animal first day of college, didn't use her position to push her tharki agenda. All of this Kabir does.

1)Fr me icing the dick in public and a girl masturbating in private both r fine bec in the end both r shown on screen to the public as part of story telling ..in both cases the person was not able to control the desire and lust ..fact that many critics defend one but call out on the other shows the selective bias is what I pointed out

2)When the girl pushed him back after he takes out knife ,he goes out of her house ..He dont really go ahead and actually strip her ..Now the point about cheating which I made here is simply bec I can see u r quick to jump on a man's flaw but same time defending a women's flaw ..if kabir was wrong of scaring her with a knife then girl was equally wrong to call a druggie to her house fr sex . Why will u risk your life & call a psychopath to your house in 1st place ??

3)Do u realise in the process of bashing Kabir u just ended up defending the other douchbag who actually attemped to molest Preeti in the name of hurting kabir..fr me that other guy is perfect example of a douchbag ..Even kabir can go and do the same attempt on that guy's GF mayb which he dint but had he done it ,will u bring the same defence fr kabir ?

4) As senior when Kabir took that authority in college saying Preeti is mine ,why dint Preeto say no to her ..On what basis we r assuming that Preeti was not interested & dint really enjoyed the attention that a senior college topper was giving her ?? Also claim on a girl like animal? Dont u think u r simply overexaggerating here 😆..

Lets agree to disagree mayb