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Sabhayata

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Posted: 6 years ago

#461

Originally posted by: tina59

I disagree with his vision

why give a grand entry and grand end to Sadashiv Rao, as per history he was a traitor , why give him such a huge canvas. He was a rat and thats how he must be shown in the movie.

Its not like he was the main antagonist to Rani Laxmi Bai, it was always the British and they have a good intro to Hugh Rose.

I dont understand this fixation on Sonu sood,

As Kangna said in her interview, each character of the freedom struggle deserved a biopic of their own, and suppose a biopic on Tatiya Tope is made, Rani Lakshmi Bai will make a passing appearance.

I get that completely.

I agree with Krish's vision too because like he said for the protagonist to be strong antagonist has to be strong as well. Sorry Hugh Rose was anything but strong. He was a typical Brtish villain who is only interested in atrocities against Indians.And got very easily defeated by the protagnist

But I wont blame Kangana for this.Its Bollywood theme. Villains are hardly shown strong and they get easily beaten up by the heroes. So I guess Kangana wanted the same,

More than Sadashiv I think Tatya tope deserved much better storyline .Its not about a passing appearnce .They made Tatya Tope a sidekick of Manikarnika. That' is what bothered me.The entire credit of taking over the Gwalior fort was given to Manikarnika which isn't history .My issue is why make a great leader like Tatya Tope a sidekick.

In any case Kangana's obsession with her character is the one thing bringing this film down.I hope she learns that movie is a team effort.

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Arwen11

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Posted: 6 years ago

#462

Originally posted by: tina59
I dont understand
why would Zee studios & kamal Jain who have out in so much money dance to the tunes of Kangna Renaut

esp if Krish had submitted a finished product , they could have easily objected if Kangna had a problem and gone ahead with minor patch work and released the movie...

Also can anyone shed light on what else work this Apurva Ansari has done before and after Simran...

The fact the direction credit is given to both Krish and Kangana so whats the problem here and why now when the movie is doing well. why not before when Kangna was talking about it.

why this timing ? is it bcoz the movie is getting good feedback from the people?

I read somewhere that Kangana hadn't dubbed before Krish left.
Who knows what transpired.

on another note,(generally, not replying to anyone) Sonu Sood looks vicious in that scene. It looks like his performance would have elevated the movie. A compelling antagonist always makes the hero look even better (if done right) and just makes for an interesting story.

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tina

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Posted: 6 years ago

#463

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

I agree with Krish's vision too because like he said for the protagonist to be strong antagonist has to be strong as well. Sorry Hugh Rose was anything but strong. He was a typical Brtish villain who is only interested in atrocities against Indians.And got very easily defeated by the protagnist

But I wont blame Kangana for this.Its Bollywood theme. Villains are hardly shown strong and they get easily beaten up by the heroes. So I guess Kangana wanted the same,

More than Sadashiv I think Tatya tope deserved much better storyline .Its not about a passing appearnce .They made Tatya Tope a sidekick of Manikarnika. That' is what bothered me.The entire credit of taking over the Gwalior fort was given to Manikarnika which isn't history .My issue is why make a great leader like Tatya Tope a sidekick.

In any case Kangana's obsession with her character is the one thing bringing this film down.I hope she learns that movie is a team effort.

But they showed Sadashiv how he was supposed to be shown, as a rat as a traitor, he should not be shown as a larger than life image...he doesnt deserve it .

As for Tatiya Tope, he deserves a biopic of his own. No way a part in Jhansi can do justice to his role in the freedom struggle. The run time of the movie is 2 1/2 hrs, what all would they show esp when the movie was about Jhansi Ki Rani

About Hugh Rose, his intro was on point. He too doesn't need a larger than life intro , it was given a proper one.

No way will I agree with giving this kind of kushti intro for Sadashiv Rao.

I also liked that she increased Jhalkari Bai's role, that was needed.

I feel theres a miscommunication in the vision of both kangna and Krish

while Krish wanted the movie about freedom struggle based on his focus on Tatiya Tope, sadashiv Rao and Kashi, Kangna wanted a movie centered about Manikarnika and her life history.

The producer, writer went with Kangna's vision looks like

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EXOL

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Posted: 6 years ago

#464

If in original script there was some kushti scene of sadhshiv rao am happy it was scrapped. I love Sonu Sood but sorry even he cant make me appreciate the grand entry for such a passing character. He was a traitor and not some biggest enemy of Laxmibhai . If they had pictured like then it would have been typical hindi movie where you give huge chunk of scenes coz he is a known name and not coz of character...Her biggest antagonist were Britishers and for me personally Sir Hugh Rose pretty much filled that part in the movie. He was very good actor and made the movie interesting from his entry onwards. Each of his scene was well done.

I have even said in my review this movie is not extraordinarily made but it has its heart at its place. Any day I will watch this movie over any SLB movies. Reason for me grand sets and lavish cinematography takes second place if the story is not well told. SLB lacks in story telliing. No depth in characters. Just grand sets and song sequences to brainwash the audience to think its some majestic movie..Sorry Boss I need content else u can keep that long burning duppatta to urself...

I want this movie to work and everyone to watch coz kangana is treat to watch especially in her battle scenes...never seen a leading lady so fierce like this in recent times ..if even with reshoot and patch work we got this..then I am in awe. Half baked movie made me happy or should I say 3/4 baked ??? 😆...

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bluffmaster

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Posted: 6 years ago

#465

Originally posted by: tina59
I dont understand
why would Zee studios & kamal Jain who have out in so much money dance to the tunes of Kangna Renaut

esp if Krish had submitted a finished product , they could have easily objected if Kangna had a problem and gone ahead with minor patch work and released the movie...

Also can anyone shed light on what else work this Apurva Ansari has done before and after Simran...

The fact the direction credit is given to both Krish and Kangana so whats the problem here and why now when the movie is doing well. why not before when Kangna was talking about it.

why this timing ? is it bcoz the movie is getting good feedback from the people?

Look with all due respect, as evident in the past year and a half, "content" "good" movies are very much finding their place at the box office and "bad" movies are being rejected and rightfully so ---

hence is it time to consider, having seen the trending of this film, that perhaps it's not getting as "good feedback" from people as you seem to think? mind ya, twitter and IF is a very, very poor reflection of ground reality.

May be, just mayyy be majority of people aren't liking it, which is conspicuously being proven at the box office?! A food for thought.

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tina

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Posted: 6 years ago

#466

Originally posted by: shogun902

Look with all due respect, as evident in the past year and a half, "content" "good" movies are very much finding their place at the box office and "bad" movies are being rejected and rightfully so ---

hence is it time to consider, having seen the trending of this film, that perhaps it's not getting as "good feedback" from people as you seem to think? mind ya, twitter and IF is a very, very poor reflection of ground reality.

May be, just mayyy be majority of people aren't liking it, which is conspicuously being proven at the box office?! A food for thought.

Fair enough but where is it doing bad in terms of box office

a 40 plus cr 3 days box office is a good start plus as per today its not bad either, a decent 6-7 cr including night shows so it has got the people's verdict so far, isnt it

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briahna

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Posted: 6 years ago

#467

😆
Kangana reminds of actor Hrithik Roshan
Me me me , these two are same
It has to be all about them
When I watch Hrithik movies I feel he make sure his beauty is captured from every angle , and that makes me not connect with his act , he just wZnt to make sure he looks beautiful on screen

And kangana , same she wznts to make sure her act gets well captured from every angle possible

These two are made fir each other
😆

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bluffmaster

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Posted: 6 years ago

#468

Originally posted by: tina59

Fair enough but where is it doing bad in terms of box office

a 40 plus cr 3 days box office is a good start plus as per today its not bad either, a decent 6-7 cr including night shows so it has got the people's verdict so far, isnt it

Manikarnika Monday Early Estimate

Monday 28 January 2019 23.30 IST

Box Office India Trade Network

Manikarnika - The Queen Of Jansi has had a fair hold on Monday but should have done a little better as the first day was on the lower side. The film will have drop of around 40% from Friday with collections in the 4.50 crore nett region as per early estimates.

The film has decent collections on Monday in Delhi / UP, Rajasthan and CI but most other circuits are below the mark. The total collections of the film after four days will be 45 crore nett and the week should go to around 56-57 crore nett.

The overall business of the film is fair but this is mainly due to the big Republic Day holiday and without that the week could have been down below 50 crore nett. The collections may be decent but the problem is that appreciation is not there which is a must for a female drive film as they dont open well. the plus is an open run over the next two weeks which should help the film.

Interpret how you will! You wanna go glass half full approach on this, go ahead. The writing is on the wall.

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Sabhayata

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Posted: 6 years ago

#469

Originally posted by: tina59

But they showed Sadashiv how he was supposed to be shown, as a rat as a traitor, he should not be shown as a larger than life image...he doesnt deserve it .

As for Tatiya Tope, he deserves a biopic of his own. No way a part in Jhansi can do justice to his role in the freedom struggle. The run time of the movie is 2 1/2 hrs, what all would they show esp when the movie was about Jhansi Ki Rani

About Hugh Rose, his intro was on point. He too doesn't need a larger than life intro , it was given a proper one.

No way will I agree with giving this kind of kushti intro for Sadashiv Rao.

I also liked that she increased Jhalkari Bai's role, that was needed.

I feel theres a miscommunication in the vision of both kangna and Krish

while Krish wanted the movie about freedom struggle based on his focus on Tatiya Tope, sadashiv Rao and Kashi, Kangna wanted a movie centered about Manikarnika and her life history.

The producer, writer went with Kangna's vision looks like

who in the film as it is was shown as it should be😆 .Was Manikarnika shown exactly the way she was ? She wasn't always against the Britisher's ? Infact during the sepoy mutiny she actually wanted to hold Jhansi on behalf of the Britisher's , there are letter's exchanged which is a proof of that? was all this shown . In the takeover of Gwalior fort even Tatya Tope played a huge role .It wasn't like Rani of Jhansi rode alone on the horse and all soldiers came on her side.No it wwasn't. Tatya Tope came to the aid of Rani of Jhansi during the siege.

Was all this shown which is as per history? No because cinematic liberties are always taken to make movie better.

I am still saying forget about Sadashiv atleast Hugh Rose should have been shown as more of a caricature Biritsh officer we have seen so many times. Even that I can get over but not how they treated Tatya tope's character.

I don't know about Jhalkari bai's role.She had at max 3 scenes .What can be lesser than that?

Lets see how the movie does eventually. In my opinion this obsession of Kangana with only her character will bring down the movie.Lets ee how it does eventually.

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Justwatching

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Posted: 6 years ago

#470

Originally posted by: briahna
😆
Kangana reminds of actor Hrithik Roshan
Me me me , these two are same
It has to be all about them
When I watch Hrithik movies I feel he make sure his beauty is captured from every angle , and that makes me not connect with his act , he just wZnt to make sure he looks beautiful on screen

And kangana , same she wznts to make sure her act gets well captured from every angle possible

These two are made fir each other
😆

Ham Ko Ma'alom Hai Jannat Ki Haqeqat Lekin Dil Ke Khush Rakhne Ko Ghalib Yeh Khayal Acha Ha.