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Posted: 7 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: anonymous39


Both, I guess. Neither Hindu or Muslim Indians are known for terror plots in Western countries. Fiction doesn't mean you can take such a sensitive topic and spread around fake stuff to a gullible stupid audience. Look at the brown people who lived in fear immediately following 9/11 and there were known attacks on Sikhs or the Indian engineer who was killed after Trump started his racist rhetoric.

TV shows are important especially amongst the stupid public that is not that aware of the world. Why spread around false stuff? There are consequences for people who already don't have a lot of power in the US as minorities.



I agree with what you are saying with regards to situation with brown people and how tv/media needs to be responsible but as far as i have seen the outrage in more to do with terrorist shown as hindus ...IMO situation won't be the same if the terrorists were shown as non-hindus .
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

Ridiculous. When can this country ever critique and criticise in a civil manner ? And 'Hindutva' tag is very telling. BJP needs to go. These hooligans and jobless people are protesting cause the Indians were Hindus lmfao. If they were Muslims there would be no sound at all. Hindu supremacists sicken me. Y'all are regressive and no better than the 'Islamization' you are supposedly fighting and raging a war against. Honestly, when will religion as a whole get wiped out. The root of all evil.


Precisely what was in my mind but was afraid to tell it in straight forward words .
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Posted: 7 years ago
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People are taking the significance of this far too seriously. First, almost nobody watched the episode - the show has terrible ratings. Second, Americans are used to watching fiction and knowing its fiction (we just can't seem to tell when our news channels are telling fiction too). Third, the average non Asian American can't tell the difference between an Indian, Pakistani, or Egyptian let alone tell our religions from what we are wearing. Sikhs have been attacked in America because white people thought they were Muslim.

I also don't understand why some people are trying to say there are absolutely no Indian terrorists or no Hindu terrorists. Every country has some terrorists. Every religion also. So the story wasn't complet impossible. Would you have felt better if they made the episode about a crime committed by members of a particular religion to raise money to help people in India protect a man accused of raping and murdering a child of a different religion? Would that have met the realistic fiction bar?
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Posted: 7 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: angrybread

I agree with what you are saying with regards to situation with brown people and how tv/media needs to be responsible but as far as i have seen the outrage in more to do with terrorist shown as hindus ...IMO situation won't be the same if the terrorists were shown as non-hindus .


Agree. This poster burning crowd wouldn't have been angry if Muslim Indians were targeted but they should be even in that case because it would have still been a false representation. They are bigots, everyone knows, but in this case this cause lined up accidentally with the right one IMO.

To be honest, I don't think Indians should even care that much. It's NRIs that should be most upset because this type of portrayal directly affects them but honestly, NRIs were not watching this stupid show anyway to be even know about it.

I seriously wonder who was watching this in the first place and started all this about an already cancelled show. I'd like to offer them some suggestions for new hobbies.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: angrybread


I agree with what you are saying with regards to situation with brown people and how tv/media needs to be responsible but as far as i have seen the outrage in more to do with terrorist shown as hindus ...IMO situation won't be the same if the terrorists were shown as non-hindus .


@ bold: Situation will probably be the same but this time with Muslims being outraged about it...So basically religion is more important to these fellows than their respective countries...I hope I am wrong though!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: keshkantiamla

1. Behaviour of the Phophet -
Prophet Muhammad had committed many atrocities like killing of surrendered men, forceful conversions etc. Some examples -

A. Killing of surrendered men -
During the invasion of Banu Qurayza, the tribe had surrendered to the Muhammad and his companions after 25 days of seize. One of Muhammad's companion took the following decision "All the men should be killed, the property divided, and the women and children taken as slaves". Muhammad supported the decision.

B. He marries Safiyyah after killing her father and husband.

C. He marries his cousin and daughter in law Zaynab. It is illegal in ancient Arabia to marry daughter in law. To make his marriage legal he passes a law that adopted children are not legal children. ( Surah 33:37-38 )

D. He places a rule that Muslims can take maximum of 4 wives. He himself exceeds the number saying that Allah had permitted more wifes for him. ( Surah 33:51 )

2. Remarks about non believers in Quran - Some claim that meaning of Islam is peace in Arabic. In Arabic Salam means peace, Islam means submission. Basically Quran is divided into two parts - Meccan Quran Medina Quran. The first part contains peaceful verses while the second part has hateful verses. Some examples -

A. Quran states that Muslims should not befriend non Muslims.

B. Quran states that all polytheists and non believers are bound to hell.

Hinduism see all religions as a different path to god. We believe that we go to hell or heaven depending on our deeds. Its derogatory to us to say we are bound to hell.

3. Mosques in holy places of Hindus.
Mughal emperors constructed mosques by destroying temples in Ayodhya, Kashi and Mathura.

We don't blame present Muslims for the actions committed by someone centuries ago. We want a temple in the birth place of Krishna in mathura. Mosques can be built somewhere else in the city. Most Muslims do support temples at these sacred places but some leaders object it for political reasons.

2.Historical reasons-

1. When Muslim invaders win war they enslave population and force conversion to Islam. Even Akbar ordered termination of all civilians after victory in a war.

Hindu ethics demand that civilians should not be harmed while Islam supports enslaving of pagans.

2. Jizya was imposed on non Muslims for centuries.

While tax was imposed only on wealthy Muslims, even poor non Muslims should pay tax. If they are unable to pay tax they should either convert to Islam or their family will be sold as slaves. Many poor people converted to islam as they were unable to pay tax. Muslims were never forced by Marathas, Vizayanagar rulers, sikhs to change religion or pay more tax.

3.Present situation Reasons-

1. Treatment of minorities in Muslim majority countries. I don't say all muslims in these coumtries are cruel but there are enough of them to make minorities life miserable. Even kurd, shia and ahmadiyya muslims are not accepted.

2. Love jihad - I don't say all inter religious marriages come under this category. But most Muslim families place condition of conversion before marriage. Why should someone convert their religion for marriage? In most cases children are not given a chance to select their religion.

3. Minorities tend to vote religious parties like MIM etc.

4. Muslims want their own laws instead following law of the land.

5. The Sharia law is considered barbaric. Punishment like stoning to death do not belong in present age. Many Muslim immigrants in European nations want sharia law in their host countries.

I can not see a religion which allows slavery and wife beating positively.


What kinda bs. I can draw up a very similar list about Hinduism. and Im Hindu. There are still pockets in India where Sati is prevalent. Forceful killing of women still respected amongst the society. The Devadasi system is very much still there. NGOs rescue little girls so often in the south. Hindus think they have the right to kill someone because someone ate beef. Child marriage still a reality in many part of India. I can go on. So please,spare the Hinduism is better than Islam. Cause as far as society goes, men of both religion don't respect women even though women had rights first in Islam and Hindus have 100000000 goddesses. They don't care about the children either. Like I said, religion needs to die.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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True. Religion I s an organised cult. I am super-conflicted on religion but really believe that very religious people are highly provincial, much too superstitious & so conservative it hinders progress. What's the point of being all of this & nasty when your religion preaches something else entirely!!
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Posted: 7 years ago
#78
I am not able to relate anything. It happened - Send her to pakistan - poster burned. lol. have some chill in your life people its just a movie/serial/show whatever it is.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: TheRager

But what are you so sad about that you need to come after me with personal attacks and abuses every time I post. Did some hard working and educated woman with liberal views get the job you thought you deserved?


Says the person who indulges in personal attacks and throws random baseless allegations around, but can't handle it when they're criticised and like a true ideologically infected zombie, plays the victim and pulls the gender-card out, nice 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
#80

Originally posted by: anonymous39


I guess she's referring to the fact that NRIs are known for giving a lot of donations to the BJP.


Even if this is true, which I am highly skeptical, the NRIs didn't bring BJP to power, it's on them.

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