Does beauty overshadow a performance? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Luna46

Yes, what Hrithik did in D2, Krrish or Bang Bang was not acting. You can call it whatever but those films weren't remembered for Hrithik's acting skills. Even John Abraham and Vidyut Jamwal can play such type of roles. They have the looks and physique, can do action, but no one calls them a great actor. Irrfan can't play those roles because he is NOT a Hero. He is known and praised only for his acting skills.

I can imagine Irrfan playing Hrithik's role in Kaabil and Lakshya(if he was young enough), and in ZNMD, Hrithik left no impact whatsoever. Farhan Akhtar and Abhay Deol, who have done more art cinema, overshadowed him.

Hrithik was not playing common characters in Agneepath or KNPH. He was playing a typical Hero in those films. By an ordinary character, I meant people like you and me, I.e. Real people.

A superstar can never play a real common person on screen, because that star aura always stays within them.

So you think Hrithik can play an old man in The Lunchbox?? Or a quirky Rana in Piku(here he was really playing a common character), or a fierce dacoit in Paan Singh Tomar??

He looked like a real cop in Gunday and Talvar. Can Hrithik play a cop?? Except Ajay, I don't think any mainstream actor can replace Irrfan in these two movies.

Hrithik is yet to prove himself in a comic role, so how he would've played his role in Hindi Medium, or even Thank You??

It's not all about versatility either. An actor can be flexible enough to fit in different genres, but it's of no use if the performance is just average to below average.

Originally posted by: CrystalFatima

Hahaha Ur Favorite SRK struggled to pull off a Superhero in RaOne despite overfilling charisma (Ur words) and Emperor in Asoka. Being a Hero also requires Talent n Acting. Just bcoz Irrfan cannot pull that off doesn't mean it does not require skills. Aamir struggled to pull off a Dhoom 3 act.

If u think Hrithik didn't leave an impact in ZNMD, that is bcoz u are prejudiced. His simple guy act in KNPH, Fiza n Mission Kashmir left the biggest impact. It is still rated by many as his best performance n film. Hrithik played Army Guy, Old guy in Dhoom 2 n Krrish. Even Irrfan hasnot a Emperor, Physically challenged, Blind,Mentally Challenged, Army Officer or Superhero. Don't hide behind "hero" thing. Accept it that he cannot pull it off. As he lacks the skills n body language to pull off the same.

I repeat, Hrithik can play the roles of Irffan but not the other way round. I stand by it. Being Ugly does not mean more talented.

Star image applies for those like SRK who is stuck in his own image no matter which role he plays. Not for those like Aamir, Hrithik n Ranbir.

Originally posted by: CrystalFatima

The topic is ABOUT Acting. And your opinion need not match mine. And I don't think Irffan is charismatic in any which way. Let alone over shadowing others. Irffan is not a Superstar bcoz he lacks the skills to pulls off Mainstream roles. IMO.

Originally posted by: Luna46

Let me clear it out. TM asked if Hrithik and Irrfan play the same role, and give the same level of performance, will Hrithik's good looks help him in making more impact??

For that, I said Irrfan will leave more impact because of screen presence and Charisma. What I didn't say was that, the impact will be seen only by the teensy-weensy audience like me, who appreciates his subtle style of acting.

Of course, Irrfan can't play Hero-type roles. I never said he can. SRK example I gave, because you were bringing Good looks, dance, physique, which is not really important to make an impact among the audience.

And you yourself first brought popularity in the discussion. I said screen presence and Charisma is more important than anything else, but I also said in my first comment that acting is more important than good looks.(and by acting, I mean the type of acting Bollywood audience likes.)

You can think whatever you want girl. I'm not forcing you to accept that Irrfan is a great actor.

Originally posted by: Luna46

Let me clear it out. TM asked if Hrithik and Irrfan play the same role, and give the same level of performance, will Hrithik's good looks help him in making more impact??

For that, I said Irrfan will leave more impact because of screen presence and Charisma. What I didn't say was that, the impact will be seen only by the teensy-weensy audience like me, who appreciates his subtle style of acting.

Of course, Irrfan can't play Hero-type roles. I never said he can. SRK example I gave, because you were bringing Good looks, dance, physique, which is not really important to make an impact among the audience.

And you yourself first brought popularity in the discussion. I said screen presence and Charisma is more important than anything else, but I also said in my first comment that acting is more important than good looks.(and by acting, I mean the type of acting Bollywood audience likes.)

You can think whatever you want girl. I'm not forcing you to accept that Irrfan is a great actor.

Originally posted by: Luna46

The occasion when they can pull that off.. always makes it great to watch.. like how srk looked in Swedes, Aamir in dangal, akshay in here phere 1.. ajay devgn in main Aisa hai ho..

I find HR very overrated because he has failed on these type of roles!!

Originally posted by: CrystalFatima

Hahaha Ur Favorite SRK struggled to pull off a Superhero in RaOne despite overfilling charisma (Ur words) and Emperor in Asoka. Being a Hero also requires Talent n Acting. Just bcoz Irrfan cannot pull that off doesn't mean it does not require skills. Aamir struggled to pull off a Dhoom 3 act.

If u think Hrithik didn't leave an impact in ZNMD, that is bcoz u are prejudiced. His simple guy act in KNPH, Fiza n Mission Kashmir left the biggest impact. It is still rated by many as his best performance n film. Hrithik played Army Guy, Old guy in Dhoom 2 n Krrish. Even Irrfan hasnot a Emperor, Physically challenged, Blind,Mentally Challenged, Army Officer or Superhero. Don't hide behind "hero" thing. Accept it that he cannot pull it off. As he lacks the skills n body language to pull off the same.

I repeat, Hrithik can play the roles of Irffan but not the other way round. I stand by it. Being Ugly does not mean more talented.

Star image applies for those like SRK who is stuck in his own image no matter which role he plays. Not for those like Aamir, Hrithik n Ranbir.

Originally posted by: Luna46

Lolz, SRK is my favorite and I'm prejudiced.😆 I'm not a Hrithik hater, but you look like a Hrithik fan, so I don't know who is prejudiced.😆

Don't know why you even brought SRK here. SRK failed as a SuperHero and emperor in Ra One and Ashoka because of his physique. Plus, they were bad films.

Farhan and Abhay clearly left the bigger impact in ZNMD, they were more natural in their acting, while Hrithik was looking lost. Call it prejudice or whatever.

Your first comment said that Hrithik can play all the roles of Irrfan, but Irrfan can't play all the roles of Hrithik. I never said that Irrfan can play all the roles of Hrithik.

So I don't need to accept anything here. It's you who needs to accept that Hrithik can't play all the roles of Irrfan. There is a difference between army officer and police officer. Hrithik played old guy in Dhoom 2?? Yes, he played an old guy in Krrish 3, and I remember how much overacting he did in that role.

Yes, playing any character requires skills, but it isn't necessary that skill will be always called as great acting.

And you still didn't answer that, can Hrithik play comic roles like Irrfan??

I'm again saying that he was playing a typical Hero in KNPH, Mission Kashmir and Fiza, no matter how memorable they were. His star aura was still there in those roles. I'm not hiding behind anything. Read my first comment, I said Hrithik is a HERO, and Irrfan is an actor. SuperHero again is a Hero. Jodhaa Akbar ki to baat hi nahi ki thi. I know that role was tailor made for Hrithik.

Irrfan can play a Blind, physically challenged, mentally challenged character, if given a chance.