Mahendra Bahubali and Bhallaldeva both male chauvnist? - Page 8

Originally posted by: Intuitive

Bhallaladeva made Devasena an imprisoner, because Amarendra hated to see Devasena in chains(going by Court scene). Core emotion of Bhallaladeva was insecurity which led to lust for power, power that Amarendra had. Despite being in chains she never let her pride fade away and that's why despite seeing her in those chains there was always dissatisfaction in him. He was one of the most cruel characters in cinema world. Shows what destruction can complete rule of senses on you do.

Bhallaladeva wasn't a pervert but. He never desired for women. And Devasena, was there in those chains without fighting back, because she knew she would fail in front of Bhalla. She was best in her kingdom, not in Maahishmathi. But she was strong, very strong from inside. By far, the most painful and strong character.

And, yes Mahendra killed Bhadra because of his disrespect towards Devasena, a women before knowing she was his mother.

Originally posted by: Justmoi

No man has the right to decide for a woman what her identity is or if she is comfortable "being a woma"n by dressing a certain way, that too a stranger who suddenly appeared out of nowhere. If this was a modern movie and some random man told a woman who wears pants to wear a sari to be "comfortable with her identity" we would scream bloody murder. Even if he used please and thank you, it would be an asshole move. So even if Mahendra was "polite" about it makes him an MCP.

Originally posted by: TheBoss

I am sure those lululemon pants existed in some shape or form even back then but the point is if he really cared for his bae he would have told her bae its ok go and kick his ass I support you but instead he became somewhat the very thing she was going to fight for and against. If he really wanted some girl of his fantasy then why didnt he tried some type of tindr thing from his village? Why change a warrior into a damsel. I mean he didnt even ask her if hey is your skin allergic to this products or not or what if you break out like crazy with my home made make up?

Originally posted by: rogerrocks

Yes Amarendra Bahubali was an MCP of the highest order-

1. He was arrogant enough to assume Devasena will fall for his charm even if he disguises himself to be a common man who was a coward of the highest order

2. He was chauvinist enough to get hurt and get Devasena to nurse him just to show its the duty of women to take care of their better half

3. He was chauvinist enough to fight the enemies who invaded her kingdom cos he thought women are useless and incapable of defending themselves

4. He was chauvinist enough to let her walk on his shoulder cos he knew she is useless and cant cross the bridge otherwise

5. He was chauvinist enough to get his wife pregnant right after marriage😲

6. He was chauvinist enough to find faults in his wife even when she slit the guy's fingers cos he tried to misbehave with her and had to correct her by saying you should have cut his head instead

7. Finally he was chauvinist enough to run away and save his uncle when his wife was going through labour pain

So yes, I agree with your analysis😛

Originally posted by: Justmoi

Agree with @Bold. But who decides what a woman should feel, herself or some random dude who is following her. ?

Imagine this scenario. IDK if you wear jeans, but here you are walking in a mall wearing jeans and a shirt with boots. Your hair is hidden under a cap and you are hardly wearing any makeup. You consider yourself a strong woman and like dressing the way you do.

Some random guy who you are not aware of follows you. He likes the look of you. You stop at a makeup counter. Try on the lipstick colors, spritz a few splashes of perfume and go your way. You stop at store to admire a beautiful lehenga displayed in the window, pretty color, embellished and it glitters in the light. You are mesmerized by it, you wish you could wear it, but you have no where to wear it. Probably in a different time and place. So this random guy who follows you buys this expensive lehenga for you and presents it you and says he would like to see you in it because a woman as beautiful as you should wear feminine clothes, not ugly clothes like jeans. Is that ok with you ? Will you slap him or fall for him ? This scenario would horrify me.

The above scenario is exactly what Mahendra did to Avantika. Stalked her, put tattoos on her when she was sleeping before he even disrobed her and put the berry make up on her. Just because she gazed wistfully in the water at her face which in the above scenario is equivalent to trying on makeup does not give him to right to draw those things on her. It's a violation. She's a human being with feelings, not a doll for him to decorate.

Originally posted by: TheBoss

I know what you mean but we can't excuse his tribal upbringing for the lack of common courtesy -- I could use the same logic and say Amarendra was raised without a father figure but he managed to do well in his life. I think defination of any sexual assault is any unwanted physical contact. If we are talk about the scene its quite clear that he was stalking her then flanks her in a predatory manner followed by getting physical with her while she is clearly protesting and fighting with everything she got. We cant confuse her sword swinging and trying to defend herself as some mating game because it was very evident she was putting her best defense but was ultimately over powered by him. In another scene she is trying her best to cover herself while he goes inch by inch disrobing her and one point she tries to tie a piece of cloth in his eyes but he takes it off because he has no intention to respecting her wishes or her privacy.

In a crass terms he was simply trying to make a woman out of her and he did.

Originally posted by: Intuitive

I get what you are telling. It is clearly an assault. What I am telling is that is not his character. SSR wanted to show something and showed something. The execution should have been different.

Mahendra's whole character has gone down due to this scene. The love story wasn't properly developed. That brings his whole character down, whereas his whole other character doesn't match with this scene. He was an excited person going by his character, so much that he uplifted Shiva Linga for his mom, climbed mountains for his love. But he never disrespected women. His intention wasn't wrong. He never forced her for sex after the scene.

All said, it still gives you those creepy feels while you watch that scene. That should have been different. In a way, this confusion of love and physical attraction, somewhat shows this generation who is more behind sex rather than purity of love.

But, I am thankful that this was a bit better than those other Telugu movies where all kinds of women's rights are violated, but it is shown romantically

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Originally posted by: Justmoi

Agree 100%. Could not connect to Mahendra because of that. Amarendra on the other hand shone because of the comparison too IMO.

Originally posted by: 2filmy

We may have to agree to disagree here
As I think he wanted to make her confront her inner self
If it was really against her wishes she would not have given in at last
Neither would she have accepted him