Netizens and media slam KJo for his arrogant remarks

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Karan Johar is anything but gracious in his public attack on Kangana Ranaut

Karishma UpadhyayMar, 06 2017 18:54:19 IST
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If you thought Karan Johar would let Kangana Ranaut get away with calling him the "flag-bearer of nepotism" on his own show, you couldn't be more wrong! At the LSE SU India Forum over the weekend in London, the Ae Dil Hai Mukhil director minced no words while talking about the episode of Koffee With Karan with Rangoon stars Kangana and Saif Ali Khan.

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In a rant that continued for over two minutes, Karan says, "She was my guest and I had to hear what she had to say. She has a right to have an opinion. When she says flag-bearer of nepotism', I just want to say her, I am glad she knows what it all means. I don't think she has understood the entire meaning of the term. What is nepotism... am I working with my nieces, nephews, daughters, cousins? And what about those 15 filmmakers, who are not from the film industry, who I have launched and who did the movies. That we're not going to talk about! Tarun Mansukhani, Puneet Malhotra, Shakun Batra, Shashank Khaitan... they all come from no film background. You give these people film careers and they have a platform to stand on and that's the reverse of nepotism."

Karan goes on to say that he was gracious enough to" not edit things that Kangana said on the show. "I appreciate that she had a great perspective and point of view and everyone lauded her because she came on my show and gave it off to Karan' according to what everyone said. I cut none of it. I could have edited so much out because its my show. But I said, let the world see that this is her opinion. I gave her the platform."

For Karan to say that he gave Kangana the platform to air her grievances reeks of patriarchy and condescension. Heaven forbid if a strong independent woman doesn't toe the line! She doesn't need his platform' to make her voice heard. Kangana is a three-time National Award-winning actress who has helmed films that have made crores at the box-office.

In the rapid fire round of Koffee with Karan, Kangana had pointed at Karan as the celebrity who gave her the most unnecessary attitude'. "In my biopic, if ever it's made, you will play the stereotypical Bollywood biggie, who is snooty and completely intolerant to outsider. A flag-bearer of nepostim. The movie mafia." Karan went on to make a sweeping apology and gave Kangana the much-coveted hamper to sweeten the apology.

But clearly, that apology meant nothing. At LSE, Karan lashed out, "What does she mean by movie mafia? Does it mean that we don't give her work? No, we do that by choice. I am done with Kangana playing the woman and victim card. I am DONE! You cannot be this victim at every given point of time who has a sad story to tell about how you've been terrorised by the bad world of the industry... leave it." Interestingly, during this rant Karan seems to have forgotten that Kangana starred in Renzil D'Silva's Ungli that was produced by his Dharma productions.

Instead of hitting out at Kangana for being candid on his show, Karan should be thanking her for making Koffee With Karan relevant again. In its fifth season, the show had lost its mojo. What made Koffee With Karan a guilty pleasure was watching Bollywood stars throw shade at each other. Who can forget the episode when Deepika Padukone and Sonam Kapoor ganged up against Ranbir Kapoor. Or when Kareena Kapoor wondered where Priyanka Chopra gets her accent. This season, the snark quotient on the chat show was at an all-time low. Koffee With Karan has turned into yet other publicity vehicle for actors to hawk their latest release.

Kangana and her candor made the show fun again. And, Karan knew that during the taping. At one point in the episode, Karan said, "Kangana has really attacked me on this show and I love that darling". I wonder what changed his mind and prompted this very public attack from the gracious' Karan Johar? Maybe he couldn't handle everyone saying that Kangana gave it off to Karan'.


Guess Who Use The 'Woman Card' Karan Johar Was Talking About A Lot? Men.

A replacement for logic.

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Director Karan Johar attends a news conference to promote his movie "My Name is Khan" at the 60th Berlinale International Film Festival in Berlin February 12, 2010. REUTERS/Tobias Schwarz (GERMANY)

What exactly is a 'woman card'? Many people, mostly men like Karan Johar, will tell you that it is a dangerous-sounding, legitimate name for a phenomenon they think plagues their lives. It's basically an accusation that women use the fact of their gender to get out of a sticky situation, shirk responsibilities, get ahead in life and who knows, even fly to the moon without a rocket, and summon unicorns for their daily commute.

You've probably heard the phrase being tossed around during agitated lunch-break discussions at work. At a workplace, the 'woman card' is pretty much an euphemism for menstrual pain or cramps. "Yeah, I can't show the 'woman card' na, haha?" you've probably heard a male colleague 'joke', while complaining he can't take 'such leaves' whereas women can. You've learnt to ignore it. The man is least likely to swallow a crocodile alive which will then claw and pull at his abdomen any time soon. Or grow a uterus. He'll never know, but he'll still be sour about the 'woman card'.

At a workplace, the 'woman card' is pretty much an euphemism for menstrual pain or cramps.

Or a friend at a party, who after a few drinks, will testily ask, why indeed do we want reserved seats on buses and reserved train compartments, if we seek 'equality'? "That same old woman card, na?" he'll laugh, pleased with the astute observation he has just made. Well, he'll have to be 13 again, grow a pair of boobs, and get them squeezed on a bus, or pinched on a train, or nudged with an elbow at the auto stand to know, why the 'ladies' seat/compartment' is a tiny respite during our daily commute. Really tiny though.

As familiar as I am with the process of ignoring accusations of overspending on this shape-shifting, virtual card, Karan Johar carping about the 'woman card' during an interview with film critic Anupama Chopra made for delicious irony. Here were two Bollywood insiders, discussing to thunderous applause, an outsider who had managed to show one of them the mirror. Kangana Ranaut, in the now infamous episode with Koffee With Karan, had accused Karan Johar of mocking how she spoke English. And in a show, where people are egged on by Johar himself to be flippant and testy about each other, Ranaut cloaked an accusation as a joke and lobbed it at Johar. When Johar asked what she would name her biography, Ranaut answered him, but also added that Johar would play a nepotistic director in it. She finished it with a cheeky laugh.

Here were two Bollywood insiders, discussing to thunderous applause, an outsider who had managed to show one of them the mirror.

Much like how Johar, right at the beginning of the show, while recapping Ranaut's career, said he was very impressed with Gangster but then she made 'certain choices', referring to the string of flops Ranaut has been a part of. "I thought she was lovely in Gangster and after that there were certain choices that I think just happened which is sometimes destiny, sometimes circumstance-related. But it is actually till I saw all that amazing work that you did specially in the Tanu Weds Manu films ... I remember calling you," he said.

The reason why it struck as especially sour to me that every film star who has been on the KWK couch " including the likes of Shah Rukh and Salman " has seen that career low. Johar, in my memory, hasn't ever explicitly commented on the quality of the films any of his guests have acted in. He occasionally asks people if they regret doing a film, with which he hands over the right to diss films to the person who has done them.

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It was quite evident that Ranaut and Johar were being tarty to each other and at the end of the day, together, they made for entertaining television.

However, while speaking about this episode with Chopra, Johar said that he is "tired of Kangana playing the woman card, tired of her playing the victim card". And then he proceeded to say that if she is so terrorised and traumatised by Bollywood, she should leave it. The casual arrogance of a man who was served up the the entire industry on a platter by the virtue of his birth aside, his use of the phrase 'woman card', conflating it with the 'victim card', is pretty fascinating.

If I remember right, Ranaut said she would not want to act in a film where her role was lesser than that of her male co-star. The only time the fact of her gender came up in the course of the conversation was with regard to the question who among 'the three Khans' she would like to work with. Of course, Johar made it sound like he was asking which among the following organs one cannot live without " liver, heart or brain " and Ranaut didn't seem like she felt the same way about 'the Khans'. At other times, when Ranaut did spar with Johar, it was on being an artiste, an actor, an outsider, a person who wasn't a part of Johar's inner circle.

The casual arrogance of a man who was served up the the entire industry on a platter by the virtue of his birth aside, his use of the phrase 'woman card', conflating it with the 'victim card', is pretty fascinating.

Yet, like that colleague mourning he can't get leaves and the friend carping about reserved seats, Johar accused Ranaut of brandishing the 'woman card'. I don't know Ranaut personally, I don't have an opinion on who Johar chooses to launch with his money, but it is more than disappointing that instead of countering her allegations with facts, Johar chose to accuse her of using the 'woman card' and 'victim card'.

One telling moment, right at the end of the Koffee With Karan episode, was when Ranaut, surrounded by Shahid Kapur, Johar and Saif Ali Khan accused the filmmaker of trivialising the work actors do. Johar had asked Shahid, "You are newly married. How was it like to do the sensuous passionate scenes with Kangana?". I am not a filmmaker, yet I know that question makes next to no logical sense. When Ranaut commented that Johar was demeaning their art, Kapur jumped to his defence and hollered, "You're in a flippant show." Kangana didn't stop. Yes, she was using a 'card' here " I'd call it 'the self-respect card'.

The 'woman card' as it stands " and as demonstrated by Johar once more " is a word that is rapidly becoming a replacement for logic when arguing about women's issues. And guess who use it frequently? Men.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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ghatiya insaan KJo , no wonder he is being called names and all 😆
edit - thanks resident 😆
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Why Papa jaan Why? This was so not needed... you could have let this go. Yash and Roohi don't deserve all this.

Now deal with the articles and twitterati. 🥳

There is a silent but huge population of unsung talents who won't take the "leave" comment lying down.

Kangana, don't utter a word on this. Let others do that. 😉
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Sadly, I have to agree with one thing he's saying - the way she's been talking in the recent past does look like she's playing the victim/woman card... IMO. Now before people start grilling me ...



*exits thread* 😛


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Originally posted by: Anachronist

ghatiya insaan KJo , no wonder he is being called names like naagin and all


Naagin ne aapka kya bigada hai?😡😆.
Naagin is hawt as Mouni Roy !!

Go find some other example to bash KJO and remember
Naagin nai bolne ka😡😆

On topic - KJO was waiting for Rangoon to flop !!
His show's TRPs were low, so he did not edit the comments.
Now that Rangoon is safely a Disaster, KJO has found his voice.



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Originally posted by: Resident_Evil


Ssshhh...dont say that word...apparently you can get a warning here for using that word. And that too conveniently a day before your previous warning level is to be reduced. 🤢



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Posted: 8 years ago
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KWK doesn't interest me one bit, except I watched the episodes with Kangana-Saif and the Director's Special - for obvious reasons.

I don't think Kangana was taking unnecessary jibes at KJO. She was blunt and played along with this "image" KJO has. In fact, out of all producers out there, I respect KJO because he may be bitchy, but he does seem to be a very good friend if he'd ever be one. And, Kangana is one of the biggest success stories in Bollywood. Nobody expected her to be an A-lister and she's now right up there. She's the best actor (female) in India today and I loved listening to her in KWK.

When she accused Karan of being the flag-waver of nepotism, this powerful producer who only like insiders, was she wrong? She was right and I loved that she had the titties to do it. When we have the likes of Anushka, Deepika, Priyanka, Kareena, etc. who pretend to be "liberal and outspoken," this girl is really outspoken. She may overdo it at times, but you can't accuse her of not telling the truth in this context. What she said was bang on.

Look at it this way - Kangana is someone who made it big on her own without Dharma, YRF, etc. She didn't need to work with Salman, SRK, or Aamir. She was amazing in Gangster. She clicked in Metro. She was very good in Fashion and TWM. Then, Queen and TWMR happened - and both are among the best performances by a female lead. PC in Barfi and Kareena in JWM are the only ones to rival such performances.

On the other hand, look at KJO. Put yourself in the shoes of a newcomer going for an audition for a film Dharma is producing. Unless you're a spectacular talent - one in a million - KJO won't even look at you. Even if you are, he will hesitate.

I'm saddened that KJO couldn't be a sport here. He could have just laughed and played along (like he did in KWK) instead of commenting later. At the end of the day, KJo is the one producer who is in tune with the pulse of modern audiences. I expected better from him.
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Karan is such a disappointment sometimes. If he had a problem with how Kangana behaved or what she said on his show, he should have replied to her right then and there.

The fact that he ran away from that possible confrontation and then complains to the media of how nice he was to her and how noble he is not to cut out her words and how she is playing the victim makes him a coward and the one actually playing the "victim card."

That only applies if someone is not a victim but just pretending to be. Kangana actually was a victim of a nepotistic industry that elevates their own at the expense of others. She faced barbs from people like Karan for her English skills and various other things when she had never said anything about them. When she gives it back to them, the whining begins.

Grow up, Karan. You're a father to 2 kids now and should concentrate on your own life. Picking on someone for telling the truth just makes you look like a jerk.
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Not that KJo is a saint and whatever kangana says is all wrong..but by some magic..can those 3 national awards disappear?
More than a proof of her talent ( which no one denies) these awards r used to give credibility to whatever sense and nonsense she says

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