Karan Johar, 'Naseerudin Shah not fraternity member.'

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Karan Johar @karanjohar

I agree with you @mrsfunnybones...due respect to seniority but this was in exceptionally bad taste and not becoming of a fraternity member..




This guy is literally as sad as anyone can get...

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Posted: 9 years ago
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"not becoming of a fraternity member" does not mean not a fraternity member. but anyways karan is an idiot. who are these two queens (tina and karan) to tell someone that they cannot state their opinion. so because someone is dead we cant even criticize their work? these two were probably sitting on a sofa drinking wine and tee heeing while tweeting
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She should focus on the free the nipple moment and not bother defending pedophiles. That runs contrary to her misandry values.
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What is wrong in Tina defending her father or KJo ? IDK the history of BW but I have heard say Rajesh Khanna was the first Superstar. I have repeated this like a broken record. Acting is not always award winning portraying asli zindagi in mostly rona dhona roles. There is a place for that and I respect the effort people like Nasserudin Shah do. But it is really hubris on the part of Nasserudin Shah to summarily dismiss Rajesh Khanna as a "bad actor". I have heard people used to go crazy after him. If it is anything like the craze for Rajnikanth I get it.
For years I sat on a high horse saying he is not an actor. But I am and was so wrong and so is Nasserudin Shah. I will never say Rajni is a great actor. but the connection he has with vast amounts of people, of all ages, different nationalities is amazing. If Rajesh Khanna had that with his audience how dare we say otherwise. That is also acting. In fact acting at its very core is a connection between the actor and his audience and to summarily dismiss that is not just arrogance but hubris, I don't care who says it, a respected actor like Nasserudin Shah or a nobody movie lover like me. It's wrong.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Justmoi

What is wrong in Tina defending her father or KJo ? IDK the history of BW but I have heard say Rajesh Khanna was the first Superstar. I have repeated this like a broken record. Acting is not always award winning portraying asli zindagi in mostly rona dhona roles. There is a place for that and I respect the effort people like Nasserudin Shah do. But it is really hubris on the part of Nasserudin Shah to summarily dismiss Rajesh Khanna as a "bad actor". I have heard people used to go crazy after him. If it is anything like the craze for Rajnikanth I get it.

For years I sat on a high horse saying he is not an actor. But I am and was so wrong and so is Nasserudin Shah. I will never say Rajni is a great actor. but the connection he has with vast amounts of people, of all ages, different nationalities is amazing. If Rajesh Khanna had that with his audience how dare we say otherwise. That is also acting. In fact acting at its very core is a connection between the actor and his audience and to summarily dismiss that is not just arrogance but hubris, I don't care who says it, a respected actor like Nasserudin Shah or a nobody movie lover like me. It's wrong.



The issue is that they - Tina & Kjo think they have a right to their opinion and NS doesn't. WHY?

Why does someone not have a right to state an opinion that an actor who may have had mass appeal as an artiste doesn't meet a particular persons criterion of being a good actor.Why can he ,in fact , not go ahead and say - to contrary belief I think he outright sucked.

Why do these two feel so entitled? Tomorrow if someone says AB is a shitty actor or Salman/SRK suck as actors - how and why is that unbecoming of a fraternity member. Who are they to decide?

Kudos to Naseer for saying what he wanted to and he has been a "becoming" member of the fraternity long before and in a more befitting way than these two could ever hope to accomplish.

I strongly detest this sense of entitlement these ''fraternity'' kids have.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ranikaadi

Karan Johar @karanjohar

I agree with you @mrsfunnybones...due respect to seniority but this was in exceptionally bad taste and not becoming of a fraternity member..




This guy is literally as sad as anyone can get...




More the opposite. KJo directly called him a fraternity member but states that Naseerudin Shah's statement does not match that of a fraternity member.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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NS is entitled to his opinion and Twinkle and KJo can disagree, but it doesn't prevent NS from having one in the first place
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Posted: 9 years ago
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KJo disses the industry every week in his blog and accuses others of not being 'fraternity members.'
What does that even mean? Being a fraternity member means you can't give your honest opinion and must do chamchagiri of everyone, whether dead or alive? 😕

He could have simply said I disagree with NS ... Rajesh Khanna was a good actor, etc instead of making it about 'not being a fraternity member.'


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Posted: 9 years ago
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I didn't like what nasser said but I m not liking whatever kjo is writing these days.. He is just in different state of mind or perhaps his psychologist/adviser is making him more confused... his writings don't make sense to me anymore..
ADHM release ho promotions ho to thora dimaag line pe aayega.. I miss kjo
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Inquisitivesoul



The issue is that they - Tina & Kjo think they have a right to their opinion and NS doesn't. WHY?

Why does someone not have a right to state an opinion that an actor who may have had mass appeal as an artiste doesn't meet a particular persons criterion of being a good actor.Why can he ,in fact , not go ahead and say - to contrary belief I think he outright sucked.

Why do these two feel so entitled? Tomorrow if someone says AB is a shitty actor or Salman/SRK suck as actors - how and why is that unbecoming of a fraternity member. Who are they to decide?

Kudos to Naseer for saying what he wanted to and he has been a "becoming" member of the fraternity long before and in a more befitting way than these two could ever hope to accomplish.

I strongly detest this sense of entitlement these ''fraternity'' kids have.


He did not just say Rajesh Khanna was a bad actor, in fact this is the exact quote.

In an interview to a newspaper, Naseeruddin was quoted as saying: "It was the 1970s when mediocrity came in Hindi films. That's when the actor called Rajesh Khanna joined the industry. For all his success, I think Mr. Khanna was a very limited actor. In fact, he was a poor actor. Intellectually, he wasn't the most alert person I have ever met. His taste ruled the industry."

He is entitled to call Rajesh Khanna a bad actor, he cannot blame mediocrity of the industry on him. Rajesh Khanna is not whole of BW nor was he the only taste maker dictator of BW. In fact he did not write scripts, produce movies or direct to my knowledge. So how the hell is he that influential ? Hell, KJO and Adi are more influential today than even Salman or SRK or Aamir as they are the true gatekeepers and taste makers.

@Bold

Nasseruddin Shah is entitled to say Rajesh Khanna or anyone else is a bad actor. He has no right to say he wasn't intellectually an alert person. He called him an idiot using big words. How dare he ? What arrogance If I was in Tina's place and anyone said that about my father I would have driven to his house and hit him, no matter his age even if I was slapped with a lawsuit. She is a better woman than I am. KJO and Tina should have ripped him a new one. They are better people than Nasserudin Shah.

If anyone celeb or non celeb called Salman or SRK or any actor using those words here I would have the same reaction. Saying someone is a bad actor and calling someone stupid is entirely different. Nasserudin Shah is losing it. There I called Nasserudin Shah stupid directly for calling Rajesh Khanna stupid instead of using big words and not because I am intellectually slow 🤔

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