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Posted: 9 years ago
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The level of which Ash haters will go to just to throw her film under a bus. So sad! If only we had compassion for the man himself and his story
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan

The level of which Ash haters will go to just to throw her film under a bus. So sad! If only we had compassion for the man himself and his story


Really? Who is discussing about Aish here? Why do you assume that people who hate Aish wil be pro or against Sarabjit? Some people are actually capable of seeing past their favorites, and haters and fan wars.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sarabjit was NOT a terrorist that is clear otherwise Pak court would not have postponed his death sentence, thats stupid right. Now was he as spy, we will never know. But not presenting evidence to prove he is spy makes him innocent.
On movie, it will glorify Dalbir the sister, since Aish is playing the role.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: RamSiyaRam

Sarabjit was NOT a terrorist that is clear otherwise Pak court would not have postponed his death sentence, thats stupid right. Now was he as spy, we will never know. But not presenting evidence to prove he is spy makes him innocent.

On movie, it will glorify Dalbir the sister, since Aish is playing the role.


Is it possible that he was used as a pawn hence he was not hanged because they wanted to use him in exchange for other prisoners? How is he not a terrorist if he was convincted of bomb blasts? Like I said it is fine if you only wish to believe one sided stories out of patriotism. But if you go by the rule of the law then he is as much as a terrorist which was convincted by their law as much as ours when we did with Afzal Guru and many others. You can say you believe only our courts and not theirs. That is fine. But then again this make you patriotic but not a realist -- nothing wrong either way.
Edited by TheBoss - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Regardless of whether he was tried,found guilty and convicted...what I don't get is...what exactly did he do to be declared a National martyr and given full state honours?
He didn't die whilst fighting as patriot against the opposition or for protecting the sovereignty/cause of the nation..Yes the torture he went through in jail that led to his death was uncalled for and condemable and Pakistan should be taken to task for this,but that doesn't automatically translate into him being declared a martyr.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shaz2009

Regardless of whether he was tried,found guilty and convicted...what I don't get is...what exactly did he do to be declared a National martyr and given full state honours?

He didn't die whilst fighting as patriot against the opposition or for protecting the sovereignty/cause of the nation..Yes the torture he went through in jail that led to his death was uncalled for and condemable and Pakistan should be taken to task for this,but that doesn't automatically translate into him being declared a martyr.


Which does gives out a possibility that indeed he could be a spy. In which case he broke the land of the other nation by engaging in espionage an offence punishable by death in both countries. Also there are many prisoners who are languishing in Pakistani prisons. There are many prisoners who have been released but they are considered as a traitor upon their return to India.

http:// indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/kirpal-sngh-sarabjit-david-spies-who-return-from-pak-jails-fight-to-survive-back-home/
  • "We thought that if the government can give Rs 1 crore to Sarabjit's family along with a job to his daughter, then it would at least provide basic amenities to us to live a respectful life. But our hopes have diminished,
  • Sunil Bhola, who was released by Pakistan in 2013, lost his cool after seeing the lensman of The Indian Express and said no interview to any media house could change his fate. "Before sending me on a mission in 1989, I was told that the government will make sure that my four daughters are married off. Nobody bothered. I was arrested in 1999 and came back in 2013 after spending 14 years behind bars. Even now nobody is bothered," he said angrily.
  • Danial, 47, has been earning a living as a rickshawpuller ever since he was released in 1997. He had started working for RAW in 1992 and was arrested in Pakistan in 1994. "They promised me a good life. But their promises equalled just Rs 15,000 that was given to me after I returned from Pakistan in 1997," he said
  • On the same street lives Ramesh Masih, son of Satpal Masih, who has not washed the blood on the Tricolour which was used to cover the body of his father Satpal Masih after it was brought from Pakistan. "The story of my father is the same as that of Sarabjit. My father was also a spy and he was beaten to death. He was the first spy whose body came back in 2000. We are surprised as to why we have been treated differently from Sarabjit's family," said Ramesh, a painter by profession. "I have wasted my life for the country. And now this is how people treat us," said Ashok Kumar in a choked voice. He works as a security guard at a cloth merchant's shop and had gone to Pakistan at the age of 22 in 1997. He returned when he was 41 after serving his sentence and has not been able to find a suitable match for him.
Edited by TheBoss - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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And again this is all about blood which has no colors irrespective of borders, religion or politics. If it was spilled by anyone or was in the process to be spilled by ones said activities I will not glorify that person.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheBoss


Which does gives out a possibility that indeed he could be a spy. In which case he broke the land of the other nation by engaging in espionage an offence punishable by death in both countries. Also there are many prisoners who are languishing in Pakistani prisons. There are many prisoners who have been released but they are considered as a traitor upon their return to India.

http:// indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/kirpal-sngh-sarabjit-david-spies-who-return-from-pak-jails-fight-to-survive-back-home/
  • "We thought that if the government can give Rs 1 crore to Sarabjit's family along with a job to his daughter, then it would at least provide basic amenities to us to live a respectful life. But our hopes have diminished,
  • Sunil Bhola, who was released by Pakistan in 2013, lost his cool after seeing the lensman of The Indian Express and said no interview to any media house could change his fate. "Before sending me on a mission in 1989, I was told that the government will make sure that my four daughters are married off. Nobody bothered. I was arrested in 1999 and came back in 2013 after spending 14 years behind bars. Even now nobody is bothered," he said angrily.
  • Danial, 47, has been earning a living as a rickshawpuller ever since he was released in 1997. He had started working for RAW in 1992 and was arrested in Pakistan in 1994. "They promised me a good life. But their promises equalled just Rs 15,000 that was given to me after I returned from Pakistan in 1997," he said
  • On the same street lives Ramesh Masih, son of Satpal Masih, who has not washed the blood on the Tricolour which was used to cover the body of his father Satpal Masih after it was brought from Pakistan. "The story of my father is the same as that of Sarabjit. My father was also a spy and he was beaten to death. He was the first spy whose body came back in 2000. We are surprised as to why we have been treated differently from Sarabjit's family," said Ramesh, a painter by profession. "I have wasted my life for the country. And now this is how people treat us," said Ashok Kumar in a choked voice. He works as a security guard at a cloth merchant's shop and had gone to Pakistan at the age of 22 in 1997. He returned when he was 41 after serving his sentence and has not been able to find a suitable match for him.


Well that's exactly my point.There are many such Indian prisoners who have followed in same fate as Sarabjit or hve been released to face further specualtion,ridicule and animosity...then shouldn't they all be declared martyrs for having to go through the same torture?what made Sarabjit's case so special?It only leads one to think that Government could possibly be trying to hide it's inefficient diplomacy in guise of excessive sympathy for Sarabjit.

His sister deserves full sympathy for her loss and I don't mean to sound insensitive,but at times it does come across as her over doing her part with media and all...making it look like there's some other motive at hand...From what I've read up on..could it be to also be to help her on political front?
Edited by shaz2009 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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When you take such a job you assume all its risks. Rule one of being a spy is dont get caught. Rule two is to refer to rule one. Many spies hence use a cyanaide pill to make sure the enemy never gets them alive. A spy sounds very cool but to the other country it is espionage. Nobody takes lightly to that including India. No country is that stupid to gnaw their teeth and sink into it for years and years and years without some solid proof hence his clemency petition was vetoed time and time again. What happened to him in the jail; being beaten up is not acceptable. But I cannot feel any empathy towards him for his conduct prior to his arrest. If there is 0.1% doubt in my mind that Sarabjits actions directly or indirectly killed those 14 people in Faisalabad then Im sorry but I cannot support his man. It is not fair to their relatives and loved ones.
Edited by TheBoss - 9 years ago

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