Swara bhaskar abuses (mods move it to debate mansion) - Page 29

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Sorry to barge in and probably just making last comment on this .

- It is sad state of our country that we ourselves label us on religious n caste divide first and then think about nation as whole . There shud be mutual respect for all religions and that includes majority ppl religion too. I agree this issue was blown out of proportion more specifically because it became ego tussle of media ppl.. One section was adamant on students being guilty and other one was too equally adamant to prove innocence.. this created two sections in our society.. one who thinks we should not tolerate these anti -national slogans in name of freedom of speech as insult to govt is fine but insult to nation is not.. other section though it does condemn those slogans says that they shud be reason out rather than punishing. They also give their freedom of speech defination and freedom to think and question. They have their own idea of India and feels that nation is not threatened by mere sloganeering.. If you look from neutral perspective both views are right in their own way.. its matter of choice.. some would not tolerate and would want action and some would prefer forgiving.. some would see a threat to nation .. some would feel that it would strengthen more if we argue and debate with these forces...

Originally posted by: riti4u

Sorry to barge in and probably just making last comment on this .

- It is sad state of our country that we ourselves label us on religious n caste divide first and then think about nation as whole . There shud be mutual respect for all religions and that includes majority ppl religion too. I agree this issue was blown out of proportion more specifically because it became ego tussle of media ppl.. One section was adamant on students being guilty and other one was too equally adamant to prove innocence.. this created two sections in our society.. one who thinks we should not tolerate these anti -national slogans in name of freedom of speech as insult to govt is fine but insult to nation is not.. other section though it does condemn those slogans says that they shud be reason out rather than punishing. They also give their freedom of speech defination and freedom to think and question. They have their own idea of India and feels that nation is not threatened by mere sloganeering.. If you look from neutral perspective both views are right in their own way.. its matter of choice.. some would not tolerate and would want action and some would prefer forgiving.. some would see a threat to nation .. some would feel that it would strengthen more if we argue and debate with these forces...

it is not about BJP vs congress . Not all those who are on each side necessarily support these parties.

Lets hope court will decide and give better judgement satisfying both parties as there are more serious challenges to our nation than these ...

@Colossial2015... Hindutva is a flawed concept and is as poisonous to the Indian milieu as the appeasement politics, casteism, communism, maoism, regionalism is. A pluralistic society like India with such unparalleled diversity which is barely held together by virtue of the equality it accords to one and all would splinter if a majoritarian view implicit in Hindutva ideology was unilaterally imposed since the Hindutva ideology has many regressive, orthodox, unscientific and patriarchal elements.

Originally posted by: colossial2015

Well sweetheart then you should no that I am a proud hindu who loves her culture and religion. If so called minorities can be proud of their religion so why not Hindus. Why double standards?

By the BJP has a big support group as many of us have been fed up with all the minority appeasement of the sickulars of the country. Looks like many sickulars have made Hindus ashamed of themselves. Specially people from media.

Whats wrong with an ideology which stands for majority of people. In India caste and religion are the most important factor.

If all the people started thinking on religious base only then there would also be big muslim, sikh, christian political parties too , thankfully there are sane indians too who are in majority and who don't think just on the basis of religion only .

What does JNU has to do with hindutva ideology? Any Indian would be offended with sloganeering that happens there . Why do you think that only RSS ideologists can express hurt or anguish over such derogatory statements on one's country. On one hand you want people to not brand JNU as whole as anti national and on the other hand you brand all those who are against these sloganeering as Hindutva ideologist. isnt that also same as what other side is doing then... you said we need to look beyond religion.. we are saying the same... in that case why r u putting this as attempt to saffronise when sentiments hurt were of common indian irrespective of their ideologies or belief in hindutva.

Originally posted by: gatheringstorm

@Colossial2015... Hindutva is a flawed concept and is as poisonous to the Indian milieu as the appeasement politics, casteism, communism, maoism, regionalism is. A pluralistic society like India with such unparalleled diversity which is barely held together by virtue of the equality it accords to one and all would splinter if a majority view was unilaterally imposed that too one which has many regressive, orthodox, unscientific and patriarchal elements.

Should we not learn from the historical mistakes made by not just the likes of Hitler but also our neighbouring countries. Impostion of majoritarianism in a homogenous country like Japan or Korea is feasible to an extent but not elsewhere. There will be bloodshed and India will cease to exist, so lets not think as hindus but as Indians first to rationalise whether our short sighted parochial self interest isn't dooming our own future.

oops by the way i said last but one more ..this one is pakka last... i think any extremist ideology is a threat to us.. it can be any .. chalo hope nw mods wake up and move this to debate section..😆 or close this topic

Originally posted by: colossial2015

Do you know the reason why Hindutva is gaining popularity becasue of caste politics and minority appeasement for votebank. I think its the high time that we should ban call caste and religion based political parties and electoral drama in the country. We should provide proper employment to the people so they remain busy from caste politics. I thin these are only solution I can see.