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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: ChotaBheem


Arnab ne jo disclaimer diya wo Sambit Patra ka Ipad bala video hai(IndiaNews) ka
Aap mix kar de rahe hain
Dusri baat video sab JNU registrar ne verify kiya hai.
Aur mamla court main hai sab court decide karega
Main ek cheez kai baar kai thread main repeat kar chuka hoon.
News debate ka videos bhi upload kar chuka ki dekho
Pehli baat ye sirf support tak simit nahin hain
Yahan baat usse bahot age hain
Bharat ki barbadi tak jung rahi
Bharat ki tukde honge
Afzal ki katilon ko saza denge.
These are all a lot more than just supporting.
Dusri baat Umar Khalid ne kai news debate main part liya openly accept kia ki wo cultural event ayojan kiye the
Jisme Kashmir ke upar kya ray rakhi gayi ki bharat ki illigal control hai
Afzal ko Judicially killed kiya gaya tha ye baat wo mani
Uska video main post kitni baar karun ?
To baat sirf support ki nahin hai
Dusri baat video ki to main student leaders ko TV pe sunte aya hun.Unke saamne video chalaya gaya aur wo deny bhi nahin kiye.
aaj jab itna backlash ho raha hai to uturn.
Suru main to freespeech bol rahe the sab ab to disha palat gayi
Chunki main jaanta hun aapka jo bhi ho point of view nahin badlenge na hin main badal ne bala hoon aur ye discussion chalta rahega
So no use of arguing



Studeng be video deny nahi kiya? When he is in the video can he say video is not mine? Doctored means doctoring the audio and that he clearly denied that he or any other students scream such slogans. What U turn are you talking? They are still stuck to the point that they organized the event abd they shouted pro-Afzal slogans. What they aren't agreeing is they shouted those barath ke tukde, barath ki barbadi etc. And neither you nor me know that whether it's true or not, so We can't right away brand them anti national when so much confusions over evidences exists. And the slogans what you are saying dangerous are being shouted for years by seperatists and the govt has no guts to arrest them because they fear loosing votes. The hidden agenda behind exaggerating JNU issue is very clear if you view logically without the saffron tinged glasses. JNU is never going to be under this govt ideology of Hindutva, so they just got a chance to defame and brand anti national which will make their work more easier. Anyway ppl believe abd listen only what they want to, so no point in arguing, specially with the RSS brainwashed ppl.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: bhavnahm



Yechury spoke today because yesterday after Smriti's speech they didn't get a chance to speak and congress had already done a walkout. Before Smriti's rhetoric emotional talk there was a very well speech by Sugatha Bose which had a lot of content. To be honest Smriti's speech was more about shifting the blame on congress, 80% of her speech just said your UPA did it. The only few things she spoke was making sense that was those religion clashes text books for kids and politicizing the college campuses. Unfortunately she forgot her party does the latter thing rampantly. Even her take on JNU row made sense as she had fact sheets but she spoke a blatant lie with confidence and drama, emotion incase of Rohit case. Because she just can't deny the same 'child' yesterday she was repeating many times was called anti national by her in her letters. I want her and Rohit's mother to talk face to face, truth will be known.


But then hasn't Vemula's suicide been politicised?? And what about the fact that the police action in getting the doctor was delayed or that this isn't the first Dalit suicide in the campus but a trend seen even in the UPA regime. Smriti was wrong to heed to Bandaru's request but to say it smacks of casteism is silly...it was probably student politics and due to his earlier attacks on ABVP students. There is systemic failure which was there under UPA and continues under BJP, but such poisonous politicisation by the opposition on every issue which have occurred in the past too is driven not by national interest but by their own political vested interests. Vemula was instigated and abetted to commit suicide by political forces who stood against him and also with him. He has foolishly sacrificed his life as a political tool. I am sorry but I have no sympathy for him. Instead of bringing to light the injustice against him he committed an act of cowardice. His lot in life was not so deplorable that he had to take this drastic step...he was a politically active and socially aware intellectual. He should have thought of his mother before doing it rather than attempting posthumous glory.

This is why I earlier also stated that campus politics should be prohibited.

P.S. I also just saw the letters sent by HRD Ministry to the university, they no where asked the University to suspend the students but to investigate the issue of their anti-national and casteist activities. A committe was thereafter appointed which suspended them. The over-reaction and lack of thorough investigation by the University cannot be blamed solely on the Central govt.
Edited by gatheringstorm - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: AllBlacks1

I am a bigger Modi fan then BJP fan as such. If Advani were to fight elections and PM of today, I would be like 😕

Modi has surprised me when he keeps mum on his party members loud mouths and doing unpredictable moves. But in a bigger picture, he knows what he is doing. Politics is dirty and its easy for us to hate politicians, but its a dirty job and some1 has gotta do it. Do u want a spineless predictable leader who cant play poker let alone chess or do u want some1 who keeps his nemesis in check and work for Country's best interest? Who keeps u guessing.

Turk- Afghan- Pak- Indo pipelines, GST, India's 7% economy growth and its diplomatic and military prowess increases are some the issues that developed world will put on priority. But its more abt JNU and Jatt. None of it is new and none of it will ever have long time impacts. Worst thing for Modi wud be to indulge in such issues which will never be productive. The machinery to deal with these issues is well in place, let them deal with it. The morning tea/breakfast headlines r plenty for ppl to energize and then laid back watching 6 pm news.

India has always those problems, in some periods, it was worse than others. Lot worse.

Modi is on the other road(s). To gain economic foothelds, its ok to shake hands with enemy for within or outside. On socio- political issues, let every1 be busy and keep guessing when will Modi will open his mouth. U guessed it right.. just before next general elections, with his progress card in hand. Ppl will realize how stpd the issues like JNU and intolerance were. It should die its natural death.

The blind hatred towards BJP is such that some P-sick-asurs wanna see India disintegrate. But intheir nightmares.. India will progress and before they know it.. it will be " Modi sarkar baar baar, lagataar"..

Ppl here dont even know the difference between BJP and ABVP and RSS, 😆 and above all MODI. Its ok. Let every1 have their daily dose of politics and let Modi solve bigger issues.. economy and development.

All opposition want him to side track and burry his efforts in the petty issues created for very purpose of destruction. But he wont budge. And when he will open his mouth, the opposition would wish he was better when he was quiet. Coz every1 knows what a narrator he is! He can actually score many browny points here with his one-liners. But nah... save it for later.

In the end, what matters is India's progress. Congress reduced India to deal with more problems that has no solutions in 65 years and now in just 2 years, Modi is expected to be the next coming of Lord Krishna.. that is quite a compliment.

So, back to JNU. Do U think Kanhaiya will be a future PM? discuss. 😆

This is the thing. When congress was defeated, Indian economy was in shambles. there was so much policy paralysis. Nobody brought BJP in power on promise of all these JNU and Jaat issues. It was more about reviving the country. Media and opposition now a days give every small issue a religion and caste color. Media has stopped highlighting and even printing the new policies Govt. is bringing and also its work. Since BJP comes to the power I am yet to see a critical appraisal of any policy in News Papers. I have to go to Rajya Sabha TV for the same. The editorial is all about JNU, Intolerance, Freedom of Speech, Caste, Religion. Baki sara India to mar gaya jaise. There are so many things that are happening but never ever mentioned in newspaper. India organised International meet on Biotech but I could only find it on Rajya Sabha TV. Such is the state of Media.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: bhavnahm



They wouldn't if over enthusiastic BJP/RSS/ABVP followers hadn't pitched for 'shut down JNU'. Who will tolerate if the whole university is getting targeted, it's clear that the right wingers wanted to shut down the university as its anti RSS, so they got a reason and made it a big issue with their mount piece channels like Zee news and Times now by blaming the whole university, which United the students and teachers.
During UPA times also one student of JNU was slapped with sedition charge for naxal links and the students protested then too but it never got sensationalized much because media didn't try to brand the whole university as naxalites as the present govt sponsored media tried to do. Since nobody sensationalized and nobody attacked the whole university, nobody put the students behind the bar for being anti congress, nothing of this happened.
BJP and RSS should slow down on their rhetorics and focus on what they promised. When Hindutva couldn't fetch them much they have retorted to nationalism.


Somehow i see the whole issue as govt vs JNU and the way i see it is that govt is very eager to malign JNU and want it shut down at any cost adue to their leftist views and delhi police is with them in this whole matter , and also their youth activists inside campus as students to stir things up.
The way these students are targeted because apparently they were present but they didn't stop anti-national activities is hypocrisy as with same label why not target ABVP memebrs too for they were present too filming secretly because to begin with majority of the videos shown on TV had the disclaimer - courtesy of ABVP on them .
The problem i have is the way the students and university were labelled anti-national and declared culprit by media and BJP supporters even before the case went to court .
As fas as modi is concerned as someone mentioned here , then if educational institutes of india , indian students and for that matter aam janta doesn't warrant his attention then god knows what will - oh i forgot elections will , next time there is election in a state he would be screaming his lungs out beating his chest but uttering a few sensible words here is too much for him 🤔
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: gatheringstorm

Just saw snippets of Smriti's speech...damn but she decimated the entire opposition singlehandedly...she was once again Tulsi fighting against the world...what drama and rhetoric👏


Already Doctor who declared Rohith dead has disputed Tulsi mata's claims of not trying to revive rohith 😆 Doctor said that when she examined Rohith he was already dead for about 2 hours and there was nothing left in him .



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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: angrybread


Already Doctor who declared Rohith dead has disputed Tulsi mata's claims of not trying to revive rohith 😆 Doctor said that when she examined Rohith he was already dead for about 2 hours and there was nothing left in him .




She claimed that there was a delay in getting the doctor as per the police report , do not remember about the reviving thing. She even specifically mentioned how the police machinery of Telangana which filed the report was under TRS, I doubt she would be so foolish as to lie about that police report when she indirectly pointed fingers at the TRS government for inaction.

The dispute is over what is in the police report and what the doctor is saying and since the police is under TRS, a rival of BJP's we can only wonder who is lying - the cops or the doctor.
Edited by gatheringstorm - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: gatheringstorm


She claimed that there was a delay in getting the doctor as per the police report , do not remember about the reviving thing. She even specifically mentioned how the police machinery of Telanagana which filed the report was under TRS, I doubt she would be so foolish as to lie about that police report when she indirectly pointed fingers at the TRS government for inaction.


She did say that no attempt was made to revive him which is promptly disputed by the doctor.
I really liked fiery tulsi but the way she made it emotional and moral drama and as if it was her vs dirty politics ( even though she is probably a minister due to dirty politics only ) by saying politics was played ek bachche ki maut par made me laugh .If i remember correctly it was her govt who declared Rohith vanti-national after his death and a question mark was put on his dalit identity - wasn't that politics 😕
Basically politics was played by both sides but then act like a non-political person with a conscience makes me laugh specially when you are a minister ...apart from obviously how she gave favours of admissions by going out of the way 😉
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: bhavnahm



Studeng be video deny nahi kiya? When he is in the video can he say video is not mine? Doctored means doctoring the audio and that he clearly denied that he or any other students scream such slogans. What U turn are you talking? They are still stuck to the point that they organized the event abd they shouted pro-Afzal slogans. What they aren't agreeing is they shouted those barath ke tukde, barath ki barbadi etc. And neither you nor me know that whether it's true or not, so We can't right away brand them anti national when so much confusions over evidences exists. And the slogans what you are saying dangerous are being shouted for years by seperatists and the govt has no guts to arrest them because they fear loosing votes. The hidden agenda behind exaggerating JNU issue is very clear if you view logically without the saffron tinged glasses. JNU is never going to be under this govt ideology of Hindutva, so they just got a chance to defame and brand anti national which will make their work more easier. Anyway ppl believe abd listen only what they want to, so no point in arguing, specially with the RSS brainwashed ppl.


Whats your problem with hindutva. Do you think hindus are horrible people?

JNU is a good university but it cannot treat the terrorists as heroes and celebrate the death of soldeirs. Few years back some kashmiri students shouted Pro Pakistan slogans after India Pakistan cricket match and some of them were restricted and rest were suspended by the faculity themselves.

there is another problem in JNU that the non teaching staff completely hates the teachers and student members of the leftist parties. The staff hates the gundagardi these groups do in the campus. Left parties have suffocated the other voices of dissent. Some of the students are forced to join the march for Kanhaiya by the lecturers.

I do not think that all students are wrong. But people with anti India believe and feelings should be removed from the university as these people are worse than terrorists.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: colossial2015


Whats your problem with hindutva. Do you think hindus are horrible people?

JNU is a good university but it cannot treat the terrorists as heroes and celebrate the death of soldeirs. Few years back some kashmiri students shouted Pro Pakistan slogans after India Pakistan cricket match and some of them were restricted and rest were suspended by the faculity themselves.

there is another problem in JNU that the non teaching staff completely hates the teachers and student members of the leftist parties. The staff hates the gundagardi these groups do in the campus. Left parties have suffocated the other voices of dissent. Some of the students are forced to join the march for Kanhaiya by the lecturers.

I do not think that all students are wrong. But people with anti India believe and feelings should be removed from the university as these people are worse than terrorists.


Sorry don't want to barge in but please differentiate - hindutva and hindus are not same . Far too many hindus oppose hindutva , does that mean they are not hindus . Hindutva is a right wing ideology .
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: angrybread


Sorry don't want to barge in but please differentiate - hindutva and hindus are not same . Far too many hindus oppose hindutva , does that mean they are not hindus . Hindutva is a right wing ideology .


Well sweetheart then you should know that I am a proud hindu who loves her culture and religion. If so called minorities can be proud of their religion so why not Hindus. Why double standards?

By the BJP has a big support group as many of us have been fed up with all the minority appeasement by the sickulars of the country. Looks like many sickulars have made Hindus ashamed of themselves. Specially people from media.


Edited by colossial2015 - 9 years ago

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