Thoughts on Ranbir character in Tamasha (update: pg 4) - Page 3

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Staart

I agree with you completely and one more thing was he really in love with Tara it looked as if he was just thankful to her.



then like, comment and share my post 😆 just like those youtube vids where they tell u to do that, lol

I think he did love tara but it was more important to find himself, his priority wasn't to marry tara then, he had to figure out something much more important and when he did, he did go back to her and appreciated her even more for opening his eyes.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhanSinghTomar

left the movie after 15 minutes of watching... biru gets offered these typical movies again and again where he is unhappy with his life, schools etc...want to pursue his dreams and so on...

getting tired of same roles which he portrays well but bores an audience like me who wants new role from his actors... even if it's robert de niro or al pacino, i cannot continue t watch raging bull or scarface for whole life😆... actor has to take on new roles, new genres



yes, u should watch tatad tatad, that's better 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: minu_8

Nicely written adventurousman.. Agree with everything you wrote about ved and I loved ranbir's portrayal of him..

But I didn't quiet get you on the ending.. You mean imtiaz said everything is happily ever after if you follow your dreams?
I don't know if he can show his hero pursue his dreams and end on a note where it shows it doesn't guarantee happiness.. I think in movies we cannot expect that..
I think if he is happy with what he is doing.. There maybe problems in his life.. But he might face them head on.. Because he is content with his life. But ved in his corporate life is so defeated.. Given up on life like..



I'm kinda spiritual and I realized that imtiaz is too and tries to give it to audience whenever he sees fit like he did it beautifully in highway. he did a good job here too. Its like he is showing that you're bound and u need to be freed. So here ved is bound by his job and then he gets free but in reality that's not the answer either but its close enough.

For e.g. in love aaj kal, he showed love was the answer and here he showed that following your dream is the answer. They might be for some people but it puts you back in bondage although doing what u love and expressing yourself through that can be extremely freeing.

I guess my beef with him is that he first starts with this idea that we're in bondage (which I agree with) and then he shows how we can get out of bondage and that I kinda disagree with but I also get that he is limited. He is making a movie for Indian audience. he can't make a movie like 'revolver'

In highway alia is marrying and then when she is kidnapped she realizes that she was never free in her so called free world that she actually feels free now while being kidnapped and her feelings for randeep aren't even sexual but its still love and in the end she finds her peace.

So lets see what he does next. having said all this I still very much liked the movie. Most of us are not even aware of our mechanical nature no matter what job we're doing. We've our own set of patterns, conditioning and on auto pilot so the film pointed to that too. Its not just ved, its most of us.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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I really enjoyed reading this discussion and the different reactions to the film. I liked the film a lot, mostly for the reasons you pointed out.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vedika211

I really enjoyed reading this discussion and the different reactions to the film. I liked the film a lot, mostly for the reasons you pointed out.



Thank you. I'd most likely watch it again this week or next week 😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Imagine deepika refuses to play along with ranbir (in the beginning) and says, sorry I just needed to use a phone, bye.

she would have never fallen in love with him, would never have found him, would not say those things to him and he would be in a rut for the rest of his life
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: akdhaalways

But the baba was happy wasnt he?Age ridden and forgetful at the end, but still had people taking care of him, he was not alone, and did something he loved.Where as ved was miserable in that corporate life, like you could literally see that this person is dying day by day, he is getting suffocated.The scenes that depict his routine life, where he is so perfectly polite decent mannered obidient and mediocore, its painful to watch, noone deserves such a fate.Ved did love Tara to the point where he thought about proposing her, and spending the rest of his life with her. He loved her so much that her rejection triggered so much out of him, shows what an effect she had on him. In the movie their few meetings were shown as a couple but I guess they dated quite a few months, and id love each other, after all Tara was ready to compromise and settle for the corporate bore ved , because she couldnt be without him.Now after showing this type of love between a couple, imtiaz cant just shoq ved never reunited with tara, I eman what will be the reason?Its obvious once ved finds himself and his journey of self discovery ends,he will try to find the girl he loves, who will be the happiest person in the world seeing he is now his real self, the talented storyteller.Imtiaz couldnt possibly show ved struggling after being a theatre artist and alone, what message would the movie give then, that if you persue your dreams you are gonna be pennyless alone??Thats not the case most of the times, most people who do something they love score much gbetter in their personal and proffesional lives that those who are stuck at doing something they despise.The ending is pereect I guess, not only ved fulfilled his dream of being a storyteller, he fulfilled that ricksawwala's dream of performing too, and Taraa his true life partner participating in his dramas where they tell their love story, of a robotic guy and a happy go lucky girl ,who helped the guy to find who he is.The ending does make you feel so peaceful, and gives you the courgae to think that maybe, maybe I should also quit this job I dont like at all and do something that I love hat I always saw myself doing in my subconscious mind; maybe my income will be less, but my happiness will be much more.I am sure ved the theatre artist was not as rich as ved the corporate guy, but he smiled and lived like heaven was on earth, whikle ved the corporate guy struggled to even live a moment.



Please use paragraphs as that's easy to read 😊

its about satisfaction. U might not feel satisfied at your current job and then u think doing my own thing, following my passion will bring me that joy, happiness that I'm longing for and when u become like that baba then u might rethink the whole thing. U might get frustrated with the way you're living or how u can't afford nice places to go to or afford vacations because u don't have the money for it.

point is we're never satisfied, we always think the answer is out there but we never find it there.

Yes, ved did love tara. I don't think I said that they shouldn't be together.

It wasn't about giving any kind of message. You might be setting people for false expectations. The same way u can say what message would he have given if saif didn't end up with deepika in love aaj kal but we all know, of people who think that love is the answer and after they spend a few yrs or less together, they know that its not it.

I agree with the rest of it. We should follow our dreams even if that means failing and having less money. No need to be stuck in a job 9-5 that u hate.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: adventurousman



Please use paragraphs as that's easy to read 😊

its about satisfaction. U might not feel satisfied at your current job and then u think doing my own thing, following my passion will bring me that joy, happiness that I'm longing for and when u become like that baba then u might rethink the whole thing. U might get frustrated with the way you're living or how u can't afford nice places to go to or afford vacations because u don't have the money for it.

point is we're never satisfied, we always think the answer is out there but we never find it there.

Yes, ved did love tara. I don't think I said that they shouldn't be together.

It wasn't about giving any kind of message. You might be setting people for false expectations. The same way u can say what message would he have given if saif didn't end up with deepika in love aaj kal but we all know, of people who think that love is the answer and after they spend a few yrs or less together, they know that its not it.

I agree with the rest of it. We should follow our dreams even if that means failing and having less money. No need to be stuck in a job 9-5 that u hate.


Actually space button is not working, so cant really write in paras but ok will use the cursor t create para😊You are right thats also a true side , if one takes a rash decission to follow dream and quit job, and then ends up getting poor and unsuccessful, it may be more painful.Its kinda a weird situation you know, if you dont take the risk you are stuck with that suffocating job forever and maybe you are killing a bright passionate future for yourself, but then maybe you take up your dreams and still not get success.I think its good to go for dreams but always with a backup plan ready😆 Can't really say about love aaj kal didnt watch the movie, but I guess in tamasha imtiaz explored that side where taking risk end up causing good.Maybe one day he will explore that side too , that often dreams are like mirrages an can give more pain and helplessness.But for tamasha he could not show both sides in one movie I think, Yeah the way ved's situation was shown, his life was painful and suffocating, and he desperately needed to be free.Its good he took the decision to quit job and be a theatre artist,because that smile on his face ta the ending scene was so satisfying😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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OK, i saw the film yesterday & partially agree with ur analysation on Ved's character. His character reminded me of holly. film Fight club , where the narrator is busy with his boring job, then his alter ego makes him what he really wanted to be in his mind.

Havnt seen Love Aaj Kal so cant comment on that comparison but i liked the ending of Tamasha. I wanted them to end up together since he realised what his true inner self was & did that since childhood , he will be satisfied in this much more than any other work that he will do for a living , and even his girl loved this Ved.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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👏👏👏
I love this. Tamasha is one of the best movie for 2015. I love Ranbir in this movie so much.
But I love Deepika more as I felt Ranbir just like me in real life and I really hope I can meet my Tara in real life. My life just like Ranbir, just like a machine in real life.
But I am not bipolar tho 😆

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