Thoughts on Ranbir character in Tamasha (update: pg 4)

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Posted: 9 years ago
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This is what I think of it, feel free to agree or disagree with it 😊

I loved the movie and his performance but didn't like the ending. Imitiaz did the same thing in Love aaj kal. The guy thinks he will find fulfillment in his job and then goes to US and his on high, thinking this will finally bring him that fulfillment, that peace and happiness that he was promised only to find that he doesn't but then he does a blunder and gives out the message that only love was missing from his life so he goes back to deepika and they live happily ever after in their imaginary world 😆

Here he has shown that as kids we're free, we don't think about what people will think or that its not possible, we just listen to our heart and do what makes us happy but overtime we're confined to play these roles. We're conditioned to be a certain way, we're told what to do and what not to do. What is rite and wrong, what is true and false and what is socially acceptable and what's not.

So Ranbir gets conditioned to be a certain way. He doesn't like school, he doesn't want to be engineer but his dad makes him feel guilty and reminds him of duty or how good he has it so he sees no other way and just goes with it while dying a little inside each day.

He keeps suppressing his real feelings and who he really is. He plays this role, of being a nice guy, who has a good secure job, who is obedient, comes on time, does his job, the normal average joe.

That's why he goes on vacation where no one recognizes him as that guy. he can be anything so he is free to be his real self. The fun loving guy and deepika falls in love with him.

Deepika comes back and can't forget about this adventurous, cool, fun guy so she finds him, hoping he is still the same guy she met although he is a totally different guy now but she chooses not to see that as she has an image of him through which she sees him.

after a while (I assume few months) its clear to her, he is not the same guy. So she tells him that and he freaks out.

Doubt creeps in him, what if she is rite? Am I not good enough for her? Although he was living the same life before but now he can actually see his mechanical existence and how unhappy he is.

So his true personality starts coming out, one which is not confined by what people think of him. Many times we stop ourselves doing this or that because we don't want to be impolite. We think, what will they think? they will think I'm crazy or whatever so to save face we don't do it but we want to do it and because of fear of rejection, we suppress it and do whats expected of us to do, just like he does but now he doesn't.

That's why his conditioned self and his real self are in conflict and he is confused himself about what's going on. This is shown beautifully when he is in his boss office and wants to put this facade of being a nice obedient boy but at the same time his real self keeps popping up.

so it doesn't make sense to him, just like in the party that guy asks him, how are you? And he knows he doesn't really care so he exposes his hypocrisy like u really wanna know how I am? Let me tell u how I am. R u ready to listen and then the guy is like, everyone says this, its just polite.

So he doesn't wanna do that anymore, put up a face and suppress his real emotions. Just like for that lady he always holds the door and finally he decides not to, why should he? because he is expected to? Or its a nice thing to do? Or to show to her, how nice he is so she keeps thinking that he is a nice boy but at what price? At what price is he getting society's approval? By killing his real self and dying each day a little and for what? To make a living?

That's why he says, what if money didn't exist? because it looks like we're trained from childhood, only for one thing, go to school, get a degree so u can work 40+ hr a week for someone else and u do this day in day out. Its pathetic.

and the sad thing is, most people feel stuck and don't find a way out and many don't even have that so its all kinda phucked up.

back to ranbir. So his real self is now coming in and he goes to that baba to find answers, and the baba tells him that its his story so only he can know what's gonna happen. something clicks inside him and now he knows what he needs to do.

He was interested in story telling from childhood so he does that and through that he expresses his real self and is happy doing that so no more mental breakdown.

Happy ending 😃

but just like in love aaj kal, it was shown that finding love was the answer, here it shown, by finding fulfillment in your work, u can find fulfillment but in reality that doesn't happen. U might end up like that baba. Its not like u r gonna have a stage and make it big, most of us don't.

also even if u make it big, still doesn't mean that u will find happiness in it. U r seeking happiness where u will never find it, only moments but those are not enough. So either Imitiaz himself has no knowledge of it or if he has, he doesn't want to go there as it would be too much for bollywood audience even now its too much so 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree with you completely and one more thing was he really in love with Tara it looked as if he was just thankful to her.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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left the movie after 15 minutes of watching... biru gets offered these typical movies again and again where he is unhappy with his life, schools etc...want to pursue his dreams and so on...

getting tired of same roles which he portrays well but bores an audience like me who wants new role from his actors... even if it's robert de niro or al pacino, i cannot continue t watch raging bull or scarface for whole life😆... actor has to take on new roles, new genres
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Nicely written adventurousman.. Agree with everything you wrote about ved and I loved ranbir's portrayal of him..
But I didn't quiet get you on the ending.. You mean imtiaz said everything is happily ever after if you follow your dreams?
I don't know if he can show his hero pursue his dreams and end on a note where it shows it doesn't guarantee happiness.. I think in movies we cannot expect that..
I think if he is happy with what he is doing.. There maybe problems in his life.. But he might face them head on.. Because he is content with his life. But ved in his corporate life is so defeated.. Given up on life like..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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But the baba was happy wasnt he?Age ridden and forgetful at the end, but still had people taking care of him, he was not alone, and did something he loved.Where as ved was miserable in that corporate life, like you could literally see that this person is dying day by day, he is getting suffocated.The scenes that depict his routine life, where he is so perfectly polite decent mannered obidient and mediocore, its painful to watch, noone deserves such a fate.Ved did love Tara to the point where he thought about proposing her, and spending the rest of his life with her. He loved her so much that her rejection triggered so much out of him, shows what an effect she had on him. In the movie their few meetings were shown as a couple but I guess they dated quite a few months, and id love each other, after all Tara was ready to compromise and settle for the corporate bore ved , because she couldnt be without him.Now after showing this type of love between a couple, imtiaz cant just shoq ved never reunited with tara, I eman what will be the reason?Its obvious once ved finds himself and his journey of self discovery ends,he will try to find the girl he loves, who will be the happiest person in the world seeing he is now his real self, the talented storyteller.Imtiaz couldnt possibly show ved struggling after being a theatre artist and alone, what message would the movie give then, that if you persue your dreams you are gonna be pennyless alone??Thats not the case most of the times, most people who do something they love score much gbetter in their personal and proffesional lives that those who are stuck at doing something they despise.The ending is pereect I guess, not only ved fulfilled his dream of being a storyteller, he fulfilled that ricksawwala's dream of performing too, and Taraa his true life partner participating in his dramas where they tell their love story, of a robotic guy and a happy go lucky girl ,who helped the guy to find who he is.The ending does make you feel so peaceful, and gives you the courgae to think that maybe, maybe I should also quit this job I dont like at all and do something that I love hat I always saw myself doing in my subconscious mind; maybe my income will be less, but my happiness will be much more.I am sure ved the theatre artist was not as rich as ved the corporate guy, but he smiled and lived like heaven was on earth, whikle ved the corporate guy struggled to even live a moment.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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^^ I don't think TARA performed as the joker in his plays.. It's was DEEPIKA in the first few minutes but within the movie I don't think it's Tara..
And agree, the old storyteller was not unhappy.. He was senile due to old age at end. But when he talks to kid ved.. He is already quite old, poor I suppose.. But looks quite happy just telling stories under a tree..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: minu_8

^^ I don't think TARA performed as the joker in his plays.. It's was DEEPIKA in the first few minutes but within the movie I don't think it's Tara..

And agree, the old storyteller was not unhappy.. He was senile due to old age at end. But when he talks to kid ved.. He is already quite old, poor I suppose.. But looks quite happy just telling stories under a tree..

No no it was tara only I think because when later she walks in as the performance ends, you could see her waering the joker pants, and she changed the uparka joker top into that top and coat ,I think maybe she did some special apparances in ved's plays whenever she felt like.Maybe I am mistaken, but I would liek to think tara did participate in the plays of her boyfriend aka fiancee,or maybe who knows husband.Yes the storyteller looks very happy as he tells stories to the young kids,he enjoys what he does, drinking tea and mixing stories😆At the end he was kinda crazy due to old age, but he appeared very cutely crazy to me lo, the waty he was shouting and jerking😆but if you notice he had someone to take care of him, he was not alone.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I have one question, was there any scene of Tara following ved and realising something is wrong with him?I think in the cinemahall I saw, they edited out few scenes😡They showed the apartment scene after tara rejected the ring, then tara waiting for veds call and calling him and then wantin g to meet him and agar tum saath ho sequence. Did I miss out anything, because I feel I didnt see a few scenes mentioned in reviews😭
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Posted: 9 years ago
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^^ no there was no such scene where I saw.. Yeah I did read in reviews about such a scene.. I feel they meant the shots in the agar tum saath ho song where she is searching for him all over..
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Originally posted by: minu_8

^^ no there was no such scene where I saw.. Yeah I did read in reviews about such a scene.. I feel they meant the shots in the agar tum saath ho song where she is searching for him all over..

They edited out that scene in japan na where ved and tara were walking on a bridge at night, and also that ending scene of safarnama whwere they walk away arm in arm😡also that pic where they were in a bar having drink together, and when ved closes the door on tARA'S FACE.aRRRghhh I hope they release all the deleted scenes😡

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