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DirtyMartini

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Posted: 10 years ago

#301

Originally posted by: nkapoor001
Apparently women were being raped in the golden temple when the shootings happened, bhindrawala was a bad person and action was taken! End of story!

Who said this?

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AllBlacks1

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Posted: 10 years ago

#302

Originally posted by: atominis
@Quixotic

I admit I have been ignorant earlier.

Only now after talking to many people and reading more stuff I felt incredibly ashamed of myself.

I have talked to Hindus also.

But as I said, you can believe what you wish.

Yes I am ashamed to have liked this guy, ashamed of my ignorance and ashamed of ever giving him benefit of doubt.

I am not denying my ignorance earlier.

And yes talking to Hindu eyewitnesses and reading more books, I had to rethink.

I have felt like a fool. I quite a skeptical person myself so while I might have dedended AB in past, I did start looking for stuff on it. I was shocked to learn how much ignorance I had been living in. Oh and I didn't draw conclusions before cross checking from Hindu eyewitnesses also.

I know what posts I made earlier. I didn't edit them or deny them. But I was just foolish and ill informed to write it.

Now I cross check everything and still meet more people, talk to more, read more. I have learnt lesson enough to not just look at surface level.

Oh yeah, madam... finally u woke up from sleep. U personally attacked me as "Namo fan" as if being Namo fans r all dumb. Read my first post on the thread, nowhere I defended AB, and when this thread turned into 84 riots... god knows.

On this forum, I have seen u defending amitabh so many times, there was one topic where U and other member were trying to prove whoz the wosrt human being.. that guy saying pretty much the same things that u r saying in this thread... and yet u were on n on abt how dharam is worst.

Thats why i asked if ur ID is hacked or something. That what was that sore vein that I touched upon that U were all jumping on me.

If u have been ignorant fool and just enlightened in last 2 days... stop calling others names. U make Salman fans look like saints.

U r accepting NOW that u have been fool in the past coz that member posted what u said in past and exposed U. But U r so edgy to call others posts garbage and fickle minds and that shit. Who r U? Since AB's IV, ur world changed? fickle mind or bipolar?

Shame on U, if u think AB incited violence against Sikhs and that was in 84 and yet u didnt anything abt untill now? U have been the biggest AB Bhakt on this forum I think. U even PMed me to celebrate AB's birthday last year. U PMed me to support the cause that India bashing should stop on IF. Now, I became villain in thread acc. to U... when I havent became personal to any1 for their views untill this post.

OT- Its abt Amitabh, not abt Indira. As AB said he has so many frnds that doesnt mean he is responsible forwhat they do in their lives. He was close to Gandhis.. and hez not at all responsible for Golden temple, khalistan movement or Indira's killing. If a PM of India who he persnally knew was killed by her bodyguards with 100 bullets in her body... he wud be shocked and angry. Anybody wud be. What he said was pretty much these guys gotta be punished. Even if he said nothing, do any1 think there wont be a backlash?

I am a congress hater for as long as I know. Yet, I m of the opinion that terrorists hiding in temple or in cave need to be rid of. I have given the example of Akshardham in this thread. It has nothing to do with me being Hindu or whatever.

National security, no sovereign country will allow a separatists movements. Period.

There r no justifications for riots... but ask urselves.. who participate in riots? Its the citizens, civilians. What causes riots can be political, religious or one mistake by a cop shooting a black teenger... thats why I say its a human nature. Every one of us is capable of murder in self defence or to protect our family.

Btw, this kangress had a sikh PM for long time. just in case, ppl forget.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#303

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

Who said this?

I have read up on it will give links tomorrow

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DirtyMartini

@Grumpydwarf24

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Posted: 10 years ago

#304

Originally posted by: nkapoor001

I have read up on it will give links tomorrow

on an eve of a gurupurab were thousands of people were gathered there?

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Posted: 10 years ago

#305

Originally posted by: nkapoor001
I would be more inclined to believe the amitabh thing if u guys hadn't accused Indra of creating the Sikh terrorists! It just looked like hate to me! It didn't seem practical! Anyway..chalo hopefully my last comment for now

She did not create a terrorist to say. But she did fed him, use his help at one point. He was her man to do some stuff.

In return he became big and started expecting. She gained some power thru him and he wanted khalistan in return. She then denied him and he turned against her. It was the matter of political power for both of them. If we call her wrong in sending armed forces then bhinderwale was wrong too in hiding at holy place.

I held both of them accountable for killings of innocents.

Edited by NimbuMirchi - 10 years ago

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642126

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Posted: 10 years ago

#306

Originally posted by: nkapoor001
Apparently women were being raped in the golden temple when the shootings happened, bhindrawala was a bad person and action was taken! End of story!

That is just a rumour.

Also yes he was bad but action should have been taken earlier instead:of letting it fester.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#307

@AllBlacks

I talked to you that way due to the language you used.

I am NOT justifying Khalistan movement or anything else as you spin. I am not saying AB has role in starting that entire politics. Why are you putting words in my mouth?

I have commented on AB in past and not denying it.

But I don't take his words at face value now.

He will obviously defend himself.

No one is accusing him of hating Sikhs.

But of making an inciteful remark in a volatile situation.

AB can talk as much as he wants on Sikhs. But making remarks like that is irresponsible in a volatile situation on part of a huge public figure in front of national media.

Such remarks get legal action even if an ordinary person makes them.

I don't know what other spin you're putting here despite repeated clarification.

It is like going in circles.

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AllBlacks1

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Posted: 10 years ago

#308

rumours and facts... is all upto us what to blv.

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642126

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Posted: 10 years ago

#309

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi

She did not create a terrorist to say. But she did fed him, use his help at one point. He was her man to do some stuff.

In return he became big and started expecting. She gained some power thru him and he wanted khalistan in return. She then denied him and he turned against her. It was the matter of political power for both of them. If we call her wrong in sending armed forces then bhinderwale was wrong too in hiding at holy place.

I held both of them accountable for killings of innocents.

I don't justify Bhindranwale in any way. At all. There is no action of his that I justify.

But I believe IG should have taken heed to advice. She should not have let it fester to reach that point. She should have been more tactical and timely. That's all.

There's a reason why till date so many debates and books come up on it from all quarters.

I blame everyone equally. But I expect better from a PM. Obviously I won't expect anything from a terrorist!

Edited by atominis - 10 years ago

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AllBlacks1

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Posted: 10 years ago

#310

Originally posted by: atominis
@AllBlacks

I talked to you that way due to the language you used.

I am NOT justifying Khalistan movement or anything else as you spin. I am not saying AB has role in starting that entire politics. Why are you putting words in my mouth?

I have commented on AB in past and not denying it.

But I don't take his words at face value now.

He will obviously defend himself.

No one is accusing him of hating Sikhs.

But of making an inciteful remark in a volatile situation.

AB can talk as much as he wants on Sikhs. But making remarks like that is irresponsible in a volatile situation on part of a huge public figure in front of national media.

Such remarks get legal action even if an ordinary person makes them.

I don't know what other spin you're putting here despite repeated clarification.

It is like going in circles.

What language did I use? Was I personal or personally attacked U? I seriously doubted ur ID is hacked.. coz ur reactions in this thread is very unlike U.

If some1 just qoutes Ganghiji's famous quote only half as "an eye for an eye"... it wud look like the provoking violence... but the whole quote is "an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind".

So what AB said in what context.. is open to interpretation.. not defending him.. but even he said "calm down ppl, national tragedy, plz act responsible" still the backlash wud been the same. It was world news for what it was.

There r so many hate speeches from all quarters these days. It upto ppl to buy it or not. Society is not created by few ppl, its by our own ppl.