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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: rogerrocks



Of course not..I have been saying this from the beginning..Lets not judge a person based on the kind of cinema he likes..I mentioned it in that thread too..Ppl can like any actor & watch any kind of cinema they want..Doesn't make anyone superior to the other..



Yes. This is what the topic was about. Don't know from where did BV and Ranbir come in between? 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
So i am a huge RK fan but am here defending the masala genre & i said we shouldn't judge the audience for rejecting any film cos at the end of the day, taste is subjective & what is good to you might be trash to the other ( and i don see many RK fans here 'whining' on this topic either) yet its Ranbir fans who are desperate cos BV was a disaster & are trying to blame the system, audience etc. etc..WOW..Why am i even trying..
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: rogerrocks

So i am a huge RK fan but am here defending the masala genre & i said we shouldn't judge the audience for rejecting any film cos at the end of the day, taste is subjective & what is good to you might be trash to the other ( and i don see many RK fans here 'whining' on this topic either) yet its Ranbir fans who are desperate cos BV was a disaster & are trying to blame the system, audience etc. etc..WOW..Why am i even trying..



Lol. People and their obsession with RK. Only if they would go a few pages back to see who was defending the audience. 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
This is the case now...was the not the same 25 years ago when they first started. Then they wanted to " ACT" now Acting is not important. Now becoming a SuperStar is more important than being an Talented Actor.
Edited by Dimdim. - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Oh really?

It is evident why this topic came up.

As a relataliation to Salman vs RK.

Familiar names commenting here, bashing Khans.

The TM commented on that thread too.

First spinning was not enough that this is also started.

Here also just 2 pages ago a fan has talked about RK topics and whether they were fair or not.

And you say, people are obsessed with RK? 😆

RK and his PR knew better. This is why compared him to superstars. This keeps him in discussion and some feel it is RK that people are obsessed with.

Though if anyone was, in reality, toh phir yeh din hi nahi aata.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: atominis



Why should Salman bother if his career sees resurgence with Dabangg? Masses loved it. Many sections of urban audience also watched it. Single screen business got revived. It means a significant section of audience likes it. So what quality? The audience for different content is different. If it doesn't fit your definition of quality, don't watch it.

Aamir has given 3I, PK, Talaash post 2008. Where did he disappoint on quality? Dhoom 3 he did for masses. And masses are important.

SRK did MNIK that overseas audience appreciated. Ra 1, Don 2 disappointed. CE is shit for some but fun entertainer for many.

Be realistic. They have only limited time to hold impact. They are no Rajinikanth. So if they cater to different segments then what's wrong?

It is annoying to you. But they know what they are doing. They entertain as long as they can. Attract audience in various segments.

For other stuff they have next 30-40 years at disposal.

We can argue here but it's evident these films have an audience. Atleast SRK and Aamir line up doesn't look bad.


I know. But still I can agree with TM. Coz I prefer Quality over Quantity so, this Stardom argument (BO numbers) is annoying to ME.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: atominis



Quality films have their own audience. They always got appreciated. That's why Anand, Parichay, Abhimaan etc were successes so were Mother India which is ATBB.

You have no right to call other films garbage. Other films have their audience.
People have different tastes. Majority is different. Niche tastes are different.

These discussions only hold good online. I remember bashing TRP aunties on EHT forum. But now I realise where they might be coming from.

I find load of shows and films crap but can't deny they have their own audience.

I know conventional entertainer just takes your mind off other things. It offers diversion.

An aam aadmi just needs a superhero he can relate to. Those heroes fighting bad guys, winning at end and having both family and heroine are aspirational for those guys! They fuel their dreams. And even those who dislike such films, watch then just to claim how crap they were. Either way, makers win as they only want more viewers.

Say what you will but these arguments are just online. Fact is that masala never went out of fashion. It never will.

You people also remember stars for entertainers only. I really wanna know if you watched Satyakam or Main Azaad Hoon or Mili or Swades or Raakh or Phir Milenge in theatres!

Talk to any common person, he knows YJHD or APKGK more than Barfi. (I am even talking regular college kids and not just aam aadmi who likes filth, in your words).

You too focus on stars only. Otherwise tell me how many Nandita films you caught in theatres? Why it takes a Piku with Deepika and AB?

When VB, DPad, Kangana worked with Sanjays, Ajays, Akkis, Emraans, Khans, Roshan etc, then you gave chance to their different or quality work?!

Fact is the girls had to do other cinema which you so trashed, to get your attention to this cinema which you so admire now!

Put things in perspective at least!




Im an old timer so Yes, I have watched Mili, Anand, Abhimaan, Chupke Chupke and Khubsoorat (3 times) in theatres. I have also watched most Big B and Dharmendra masala movies in theaters as well as movies like Aakrosh, Garam Hawa, Aandhi in theatres...also enjoyed Sholay 5 times in theaters!

In the old days there was no TV premiere of relatively new movies, there was only one TV channel, Doordarshan and there were no VCR or DVDs. So obviously everyone just watched ALL movies in theaters, whether art movies or commercial ones.

In those days, masala entertainers didnt have vulgar dances and dialogues. They didnt have hero-heroine's pelvic thrusting, item girl dancing to dirty lyrics, hero mouthing Fart dialogues or dancing with towel rubbing private parts! 🤢

Its impossible to watch these current masala movies with kids, whereas in 70s and 80s we watched those relatively harmless masala movies as kids/teens ourselves.

Seriously, masala entertainers have become disgusting in last few years thanks to a few stars who demean and degrade themselves to please/ entertain their audience. Which is what the TM meant by superstars making fools of themselves.

My objection is to such degradation of cinema by including such vulgarity and crudity. Surely they can make movies without going so low.

Its a vicious cycle, the stars degrade themselves to sell movies, their target audiences lap it up, that encourages stars to go lower and lower in aesthetics and decency.


Edited by pallavi25 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
action jackson anyday over chutzpah barfi even give me himmatwala😉 judge me i dnt really give a two hoot 😎
Edited by MaNeBhiPyarKiya - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: blue-ice



KST...who do u think...made PK a 340 cr movie...the smart and intelligent people of this forum?...nah...it wouldn't even have collected 10 cr...it was the same FOOLS who made HNY and KICK and D3 and CE 200 cr movies...the same junta watched PK...the hard working people know how to appreciate a good entertaing movie...Bombay Velvet is pure garbage...here I said it...that is why it was rejected...simple...give people entertainment in any form...and they will make it a HIT ...not every movie which doesn't carry a social message is junk...people who watch SRK/Salman movie find their own meaning in these movies...they are entertained...doesn't mean that SRK/Salman r making a fool out of themselves...no everyone's idea of entertainment is different...If I am entertained by SRK's pelvic thrusts ...who are u to judge me...Go and find ur own entertainment...



ya, sure... i don't know if the TM is rk fan or what is the issue/discussion here 😆 to be honest...

but if anyone's saying ranbir is a better actor than SRK at this point, prove it. There is whatsoever no evidence. SRK's single baazigar performance is enough to equal RK's whole career performance for me.
also salman has done great performances in tere naam, and earlier movies.. he just didn't receive deserved awards because awards depend upon jitesh pillai's chaplusi.

and if some fans are defending BV to be intelligent movie, they are just obsessed RK fans...i am not one😆..

i am totally against preaching which movie is good and which is bad. Audience is the judge.
And if a movie becomes a blockbuster, there is no point ridiculing it. Your intelligent movie could be a boring masala for me and vice-versa

Khans don't need to be actors anymore because they have surpassed that criteria.


Edited by KhanSinghTomar - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
NimbuMirchi

Point taken. 😊

But honestly our opinions are ours only.

Pallavi25

Thank you for reply.

I agree it's become vulgar. But these things vary from generation to generation.

My grandfather hated 70s masala films.

It is more about times.

CNWK can be quite crass. But it's a hit. Families watch it!

As someone pointed out, maybe because SRK got away with gay jokes and other stuff in previous films, this is why he puts them in these films too.

I feel success of such shows also makes them think they can add anything.

This generation even loves Honey Singh songs.

Maybe SRK is trying to please them and bridge generation gap lest people stop relating to him.

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