The ramblings of a restless mind - Page 7

Originally posted by: Star_girl

Lol what nonsense. How is your friend relevant here? Is she even from India? Salman is a murderer and should be in jail and his long-overdue blackbuck case should be done right now including perjury charges. Indian Judiciary system is problematic because of these rich losers like Salman who order their lawyers to drag cases forever. His lawyers thought let's just drag the case till the end of time and people will forget about it lol. Just as it happens in every other high-profile case here. For once, there is a proper punishment whether late or whatever and here are so-called well meaning people crying. So annoying. -_- "impaired judgement"? Lmao what? Phir tou those Delhi rapists should also get off scot-free because they were drunk too. Killing someone while drunk driving is culpable homicide and he's charged for the same.

Whatever happened to Saif's case anyway? Shouldn't he be in jail too?

Originally posted by: chocolover89

Manslaughter is not the same as murder...people drinking and driving, who end up killing someone unintentionally, are charged with vehicular manslaughter. Murder punishment is much worse for a reason because like you said intent most definitely matters. There's different degrees of vehicular manslaughter...there's manslaughter while intoxicated, then gross negligent manslaughter while intoxicated. People do get different sentences based on the crime.

Like other's have already said...compensation cannot be in exchange of punishment.

@DH- Interesting debate here, guess most have made valid points just considering Salman ,the intent and irresponsible behaviour are relevant because unlike other cases that people are citing around Salman had a police constable on duty who warned him repeatedly about drunk driving, the speed of the vehicle , so he knew about the possible fate . He not only disregarded the law but a figure of authority and risked lives. Hence he should be made an example with the harshest punishment for this very reason that not only was he reminded of the consequences of his actions before the event but he chose to ignore them all. His case is even more worse because not only did he accept his mistake , he mislead the court, planted a witness and so many offences which clearly shows his intent was to of repentance.So unlike your friend he didn't even own up to the mistake/crime.

Originally posted by: desigal90

Oh yeah, I never denied that it was irresponsible. And of course, most of us here weren't saying you can be exempted based on drinking. Just wondering what alternate means of punishment could be employed in such a case. And like most of the folks on here mentioned, monetary compensation just puts the rich at a huge advantage. The poor couldn't possibly afford that, so it would make no sense for the rich to just pay up while the poor man compensates with jail time.

nd another point y punishment is necessary coz it will set example to many...
if salman got escape frm this... indian judiciary system will go to drains

The maximum punishment for 304A is 10 years

I don't understand this when people say, what's the use of putting him behind bars after so long etc...etc..People use their muscle power, monetary power , brains...almost everything and try their best to get away with the sentence. Sometimes, it keeps on dragging depending on the power of involved parties. So yeah, if justice has to prevail it needs to raise above all that and convict the criminals. The process is tedious but doesn't mean one should get away with the sentence altogether. That way, our already crippled society will only get worse.


It can not be just about the compensation...If you see the larger picture, criminals affect the society as a whole, so they need to be punished according to the law for creating disturbance. Even if it happens after numerous delays. Only compensation will not instill fear amongst the other rich and influential criminals. They need to be punished for creating chaos in the society.

U can never compare drink driving with "careless moments in driving" like texting, eating, changing CDs, or if the child on back seat behaving badly... COZ

In Salman's case..

Desigal, the problem with this reasoning is that it goes against the very foundation of the law - that everyone is equal in the eyes of law.

Which means that a rich person can pay compensation to the victim but what if a middle class or not so rich person was driving the car.?

He cannot pay money. So he will have to go to jail. Which means that the justice system is skewed even more in favour of the rich.

The indian legal system is faulty but the american legal sytem based on plea bargains is equally faulty. It is beyond doubt favouring the rich