The ramblings of a restless mind - Page 6

I haven't read the whole topic so I don't know if someone mentioned this but the victims *were* compensated. Salman was ordered by the court to pay 19 lakhs to the victims in 2002. I think that figure was broken down into smaller amounts to be distributed to the various victims and the total was 19 lakh. Now they are complaining on TV that they want (more) money.

Originally posted by: anonymous39

I haven't read the whole topic so I don't know if someone mentioned this but the victims *were* compensated. Salman was ordered by the court to pay 19 lakhs to the victims in 2002. I think that figure was broken down into smaller amounts to be distributed to the various victims and the total was 19 lakh. Now they are complaining on TV that they want (more) money.

I know Salman is rich but I actually think this is a reasonable amount as determined by the court. Generally speaking, when accidents like this happen, the people are paid based on how much earning potential they have lost due to death or injury. These were poor people who were living on the streets. Even if they had remained unharmed, they would not have earned more than that through their own work. An accident should not and cannot be like winning the lottery.

In an ideal system, this case should have been resolved way back when it happened. The justice system should work fast enough that jail terms can be finished when they still have meaning. However, rich people can already game the system by slowing down the process as much as possible by getting great lawyers whose job is to run out the clock. People keep complaining that the court is slow but defense lawyers are also responsible for the slowdown. It's beneficial to them.

I don't think the ability to hand out money should absolve people from their crimes. Then what happens if a poor person causes an accident like this? He goes to jail as compensation but rich people can just pay off blood money. It would create a very unfair system where wealthy people can do whatever they want without regard for the law and just pay up when needed and get away scot free.

The system is already much easier on them because they can hire great lawyers. Allowing them to just pay off people and claim they have reformed would make the world even more unfair for the rest of us.

Originally posted by: Saraa.

@Bold Do you how many drunk and drive accidents happen everyday? So many such cases are closed. Take that Ambani son case for example. He was involved in similar case but what happen? He got away with it! Just punishing salman won't set an example. Powerful people will do what they want to do. Rapist and killers are roaming around free like nothing happen. One example is modi sahab! Sorry to say but this one salman verdict can't restore my fate for india judicial system!

So you're saying they were waiting for his confession from last 13 years? No I don't think so! It was crystal clear from before. They could had punish him. Dragging this for 13 years was ridiculous! Probably now victims don't even care! Most likely they want money so they can be financially secured and lead a good life. Thats what they want the most!

I think I read in a previous post that somebody associated with the victim did in fact say they were glad that justice was served through the conviction.

You are right that rich and powerful will continue to roam freely and shove their crimes under the carpet.. but that's not the way to go now, is it.

In an ideal world, they'd all be thrown into jail.

Well honestly If Salman Khan was even 1% ashamed of his act the victim's family wont be begging for compensation at this time. In all these years Salman kept manipulating the evidences trying to prove he didnt do the crime. He kept on minting billions and those people live in the same dingy conditions. Why didn't Salman himself realize that he needs to pay for their livelihood? If he can donate so much for charity, how come he did not try and rehabilitate those people till now? And suddenly when he is sentenced 5 years of jail he wants to pay for them...wow! Compensation is never a punishment, its an obligation in such a serious crime. It was Salman's first duty to rehabilitate those he caused so much pain and inability. Lets assume he did not do the accident and his driver did but still the accident happened from his car right? So if he is such a great human and wants to repent by compensating then why he didn't do it till now for 13 years?

Salman spending 5 years in a cell is not going to solve anything but it's where we're at now 😲 😲 😲

^How can Salman pay them when they are witnesses in a criminal case against him? He would be accused of influencing the case. I'm not sure about Indian laws but it might even be against the law to do that. That would lead to a lot more charges against him.

Desigal, I get what you are saying... But this entire string of events are just o sad.. From running over to seeking plea from HC. Not just this case..any criminal case is just saddening. One suffers at the expense of another's foolishness, recklessness, insanity, cruelty. Commission of crime and then punishment aren't so simple..they entail so much emotional turmoil. It feels unfortunate for both parties. Isn't it unfortunate that some of your fellow humans aren't humane enough or lose their humaneness?

I guess punishment is just deter other people or check against further unlawful activities by the erroneous.. Otherwise, it serves no purpose for the bereaved and also for the erring unless they meditate/reflect over their actions and improve their inner selves during their penitentiary life.

salmam didnt acknowledge his mistakes...he did charity for time like this only...his charity is speaking only...
he didnt do anything for the victims...nor for any roadsider...
wat u r saying is understandable..but how long can we support a person when his wrongs are uncountable??

Originally posted by: desigal90

Oh yeah, absolutely. I know that. But that first decision was not the illegal one. That is a completely legal decision. You're an adult, you can drink. Society doesn't discourage anyone from making that first decision. No one thinks twice of it.

Adults drink, yet they know some may make some very stupid decisions after. Adults still do it.

But yes, the responsible thing is to designate a driver or someone to take you home before you start. I absolutely agree with that.

However, I wouldn't say that failing to do the responsible thing should result in someone being punished for murder...that's where things become a little hazy in my opinion.

I think that's what I"m trying to say.

That we say you should take responsibility, but does that still take away from the fact that it was still an accident. Yes it resulted in a life lost. But accidents do often result in lost lives. I believe the punishment should reflect that intent. Which is completely a theoretical POV at this point, not practical.

To make in a nutshell, intoxicated drinking seems like irresponsible decision UNINTENTIONALLY causing a loss of life. Not too different than a sober adult driving a car and getting reckless and speeding and causing an accident. Both result from irresponsibility, not intent to kill. Yet I don't think someone who speeds will go to jail for 5 years, right?

To me...it just seems intent matters in such a case. I know the law says otherwise.

I'm just debating philosophically here. In such cases, making the accused who committed the crime pay for the victim's children, throughout until college and changing their circumstances would have seemed like the more beneficial thing to do.

Lol what nonsense. How is your friend relevant here? Is she even from India? Salman is a murderer and should be in jail and his long-overdue blackbuck case should be done right now including perjury charges. Indian Judiciary system is problematic because of these rich losers like Salman who order their lawyers to drag cases forever. His lawyers thought let's just drag the case till the end of time and people will forget about it lol. Just as it happens in every other high-profile case here. For once, there is a proper punishment whether late or whatever and here are so-called well meaning people crying. So annoying. -_- "impaired judgement"? Lmao what? Phir tou those Delhi rapists should also get off scot-free because they were drunk too. Killing someone while drunk driving is culpable homicide and he's charged for the same.