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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mighty-Zeus



By 'allowed' Kalki must have meant - she did not scream for help or resist the sexual encounter while it happened .. it may have been due to various factors - she was too numb/petrified/scared to react , she did not understand what was going on or she herself was a little curious about it all .. it could be any of those .. however , it doesn't change the fact that if it was elder who did it , she was raped .. period ! .. a child cannot 'consent' to such things even if the child 'allows' it .. simple ..

Why are you shocked ?.. 😆 .. wonder if my parents had the same reaction , I ll never know & neither will your boy.. 😆 .. the thing is , such boys are usually more restless & curious about 'stuff' .. so it helps if parents know about this 'stuff' since most dont .. 😆


I was a boy once upon a time.. 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 years old.

Its my first hand experience... if know what I mean.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: AllBlacks1


I was a boy once upon a time.. 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 years old.

Its my first hand experience... if know what I mean.


Well thats the whole point , isnt it ?.. people will always try to derive an analogy between what they see happening around them & what they have experienced themselves , unfortunately , this analogy doesnt take into the account the fact that people & their circumstances greatly differ so the analogy is flawed most of the times .. well if you have had first hand experience then its all well n good , you can relate to your son & take care of everything in the best possible way ( although your shocked emoticon seemed to suggest otherwise ) ..but the thing is most people find it absolutely odd that a kid can get erections .. and yes i do too know what i am talking about ..😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: AllBlacks1


Shez not 9 years old anymore. If she wants to.. she can put the man behind bars.. if only she wants to.

is it tat easy? I dont think so. wat proof she will give- just her words. nothing else. putting someone behind the bars is not easy even when the incidents happen at that time only.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am absolutely shocked by some of the comments and attitudes in this thread. I don't think she was "casual" at all. She went to lengths to say that that experience has had a lasting negative effect on her through her life. She doesn't owe anyone details about her experience (including details of the "someone"); she was very brave to make the statement knowing some people would react negatively.
I wish she had not used the word "allowed" because it means different things to different people. It absolutely does not mean consent. She clearly said she didn't understand what was happening - that alone negates consent. Take the sex out of it and imagine a different scenario. Imagine a 9 year old child being lured somewhere and told, "Lets play a game, it'll be fun. Let me put this guitar string over your head." If that person then quickly pulled that guitar string and cut off the kids head, would it not be murder because the kid "allowed" it to happen? Ridiculous! So is saying it's not abuse if an innocent 9 year old "allowed" something she didn't understand to happen to her.

Finally, I have a third grade daughter who is nine. Some of the other girls are very tall with little breast buds, etc. The statement without any evidence that a 9 year old girl couldn't be penetrated and hide it is silly - you have no idea! But she never said intercouse, she said sex. Is someone penetrating her with fingers "sex", putting something in her mouth or vice versa?

Maybe if for no other reason than this there should be sex education so everyone can know what sexual abuse is. Everyone should know the parts of his or her body that are private and the same parts of other people are private. Everyone should have fabulous parents who teach them these things - unfortunately not everyone does. What happens to those kids?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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TRUST IF to make stupid comments about something so serious!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis

There are many possibilities.

Who knows if she was scared, confused or plain curious?

Who knows if the other person was adult or a minor as well?

We don't know details.

Whatever it is, I only blame parents/guardians for being careless. You have to be vigilant and either directly or indirectly, somehow teach kids about touch and certain limits.


Thats what I mean.. its a bold statement and without any clearance. U know kids can make up some amzing lies.. to hide their own mistakes.

But here, its a not a 9 years talking. An adult is talking abt when she was 9 years old.

Its should be more responsible statement... rather than just a bold line. I m not doubting her honesty at all.

Oprah Winfrey of all ppl, was sexually abused as child by her own uncles... she made a very detailed (not graphic) recapture of those events.. that got ppl shocked and talking.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mighty-Zeus


Well thats the whole point , isnt it ?.. people will always try to derive an analogy between what they see happening around them & what they have experienced themselves , unfortunately , this analogy doesnt take into the account the fact that people & their circumstances greatly differ so the analogy is flawed most of the times .. well if you have had first hand experience then its all well n good , you can relate to your son & take care of everything in the best possible way ( although your shocked emoticon seemed to suggest otherwise ) ..but the thing is most people find it absolutely odd that a kid can get erections .. and yes i do too know what i am talking about ..😆


Blv or not.. we r all product of our nature and nurture. I didnt know zillions of things when I was 15 years kid in India than I do now in NZ. Its not abt analogy or dictionary, Its abt our own experiences and how we see the world from our own eyes, We human beings have capabilities to think beyond that and reach the horizon.. but there is also a world beyond horizon. The emoticon was not for shocking.. it was almost like amusing..

I gave examples of a 35 years female teacher had repeated sex with 13 years old student and she got punished. 13 years old boy made 12 years old girl pregnant ... not punishment but encouragement from society at least to bring the baby in this world. Not that every parents want their 13-12 years to go that path. Therez huge issues of teen pregnancy in western world. Most ppl r supportive of the girls who do or dont know who the father is..

Yes, I know abt diff. kinds of erections.. from my own exp... which cud be diff from
others.. The point was ... kids can and DO have sex before they even reach 14 years of age.

So, that begs the question here, what age of the that boy or girl was when Kalki said "she allowed to have sex".. Doesnt it matter if he/she was 13 or 30? Doesnt it?
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Posted: 10 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: MissBahanji

is it tat easy? I dont think so. wat proof she will give- just her words. nothing else. putting someone behind the bars is not easy even when the incidents happen at that time only.


I know its not that simple. But some media tycoons have gone behind bars for the molestasions/ child abuse/sexual abuse...they committed years or decades ago.

Its not impossible.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nova19

I am absolutely shocked by some of the comments and attitudes in this thread. I don't think she was "casual" at all. She went to lengths to say that that experience has had a lasting negative effect on her through her life. She doesn't owe anyone details about her experience (including details of the "someone"); she was very brave to make the statement knowing some people would react negatively.

I wish she had not used the word "allowed" because it means different things to different people. It absolutely does not mean consent. She clearly said she didn't understand what was happening - that alone negates consent. Take the sex out of it and imagine a different scenario. Imagine a 9 year old child being lured somewhere and told, "Lets play a game, it'll be fun. Let me put this guitar string over your head." If that person then quickly pulled that guitar string and cut off the kids head, would it not be murder because the kid "allowed" it to happen? Ridiculous! So is saying it's not abuse if an innocent 9 year old "allowed" something she didn't understand to happen to her.

Finally, I have a third grade daughter who is nine. Some of the other girls are very tall with little breast buds, etc. The statement without any evidence that a 9 year old girl couldn't be penetrated and hide it is silly - you have no idea! But she never said intercouse, she said sex. Is someone penetrating her with fingers "sex", putting something in her mouth or vice versa?

Maybe if for no other reason than this there should be sex education so everyone can know what sexual abuse is. Everyone should know the parts of his or her body that are private and the same parts of other people are private. Everyone should have fabulous parents who teach them these things - unfortunately not everyone does. What happens to those kids?


This what she said abt the incident...
. "I allowed someone to have sex with me at the age of nine, not understanding fully what it meant and my biggest fear after was that my mother would find out. I felt it was my mistake and so I kept it hidden for years. "

Everything else is what we all agree on.. nothing to disagree upon. Child abuse be it sexual- vilolent, verbal, labour... its just NOT acceptable and not just the culprits but parents, schools, society r all responsible... to varying degrees.. Something serious gotta be done abt it.

My point is getting crushed in the wave of emotions here. What if I make the same point in DP's video #my choice? Of course a 9 years old doesnt know what's that choice is all abt. Thats why its not always abt my choice.

the BIG if is.. who did she do it with? (not the guy's name)

Coz tell u, as a father if i even find after years that my child was sexually abused by some adult that i know or dont know... my blood will boil and i will find that mother f**ker and punish him.

Serious statements should not be so casual. She is not 9 years old atm, Let ppl at least know was it a child "sex sex" game or something very serious. Abt not telling the parents or feeling truamatised, there r so many reasons kids feel that way abt "sex".. I never told my parents that i started masturbating since i was 16. I never told them the next door auntie's cleavage show make me run to bathroom... and I always felt guilty abt it until I went to hostel for my Engineering... that all the boys opened up abt their experiences and it was 🤣 as well as 🤓🤔 thought provoking. My guilt feelings were gone... coz I understood what was goin on was just natural.. its just that I didnt have gf.

Western world is much more open abt it.. its has its pros and cons but at least its out in open. We need that in India too. Aamir's SMJ episode on this issue was disturbing as well an eye opener. He also did a workshop, to let kids know abt their private parts, and the danger signs. Do watch it.

I am a father and uncle of 4 other kids.. do not judge my intentions here. Try to get my point, if u cant get it... my loss.



Edited by AllBlacks1 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wrong choice of word. At 9, that's rape, unless the other party was a child just like her.

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