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Posted: 10 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Mighty-Zeus


Nope you werent mistaken , you just didnt decipher the two separate statements ..

Here is a simplified version -

" Nandita may have been misquoted , but people who actually support this heinous generalization - "Every man is a potential rapist " in isolation by applying various absurd permutations & combinations are downright wrong for doing so "

There is absolutely no excuse for justifying such an offensive generalization ..

Moreover , i was only giving Nandita the benefit of the doubt & that is what i meant by 'support' ..


Okay, then again I stand by my original points. I think her statement is not wrong if it's said in some context. And my first reply to you stands as it was apt.

I have already explained it, and I think it is true. Women in matters of safety and precaution do many times and in fact are encouraged to act as if every man is a potential rapist. And if she were talking about something in that regard, then I don't think it is some offensive generalization of a quote. Same goes for some other contexts that the quote may very well fit in.

And I stick to that you want to call it some absurd excuse to justify an offensive generalization, go ahead.

As for Nandita Das' quote. The fact that she's calling a changed version of the quote as the false quote, and not addressing the actual quote itself as a false quote, is enough for me to guess that those words themselves aren't a false quote. "Every man is a potential rapist." Misquote as in not given in the right context, yes. But false quote, no.

Edited by KhatamKahani - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: BollyFanLuver


she already denied it on twitter. She needs to sue them & force them for public retraction & apologies

Nandita Das @nanditadas Mumbai, Maharashtra

I'm being falsely quoted Never said all men are rapists. What kind of a stupid generalisation is that? sad that 1 have to even explain this.

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I knew it. Everyone is so quick to jump on her. If you follow her at all through the you would know she's not like that. Shocked by all the trolling. At this point it probs shouldn't surprise me. šŸ˜†
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhatamKahani


Okay, then again I stand by my original points. I think her statement is not wrong if it's said in some context. And my first reply to you stands as it was apt.

I have already explained it, and I think it is true. Women in matters of safety and precaution do many times and in fact are encouraged to act as if every man is a potential rapist.

And I stick to that you want to call it some absurd excuse to justify an offensive generalization, go ahead.

As for Nandita Das' quote. The fact that she's calling a changed version of the quote as the false quote, and not addressing the actual quote itself as a false quote, is enough for me to guess that those words themselves aren't a false quote. "Every man is a potential rapist." Misquote as in not given in the right context, yes. But false quote, no.



There is no "going ahead" , i am already past it .. šŸ˜†

Sure you are entitled to have your opinion , but do keep in mind that women too could be subjected to such offensive generalizations and that will only make everything that much more messier.. šŸ˜†

On a serious note , you say it is about "women's safety & precaution" , do you think such a disgusting generalization is a necessity to facilitate "women's safety & precautions" ? ..dont you think there are better and saner ways to do the same ?..is demonizing men & inculcating hatred and fear among women against men right way to do it ?.. but then again what's modern feminism without a bit of man hating , isnt it ?.. and then feminists wonder why they are judged for being irrational lunatics .. šŸ˜†
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nanditha is one of the most sensible and eloquent actresses around. She come across as someone who seems very responsible. I'm going to give her the benefit of doubt if she is clearly denying the claims.
On its own merit this statement is ridiculous. It is is as bad as s**t shaming women.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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LOL Actually m feeling bad for NANDITA, the way these days every woman related video talking about rights is butchered so mercilessly on internet and called 'anti-male' anti-society whatever...
she must have lost it after reading all this and just decided to blew everything out of it, well section 66A is not active anymore, there u go the freedom of speech, she must be getting the backlash but what should i write about it and waste my time šŸ˜†
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Posted: 10 years ago
#66
[I]So effing annoying.

Rather keep your mouth shut than spewing out such shit.[/I\
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mighty-Zeus


There is no "going ahead" , i am already past it .. šŸ˜†

Sure you are entitled to have your opinion , but do keep in mind that women too could be subjected to such offensive generalizations and that will only make everything that much more messier.. šŸ˜†

On a serious note , you say it is about "women's safety & precaution" , do you think such a disgusting generalization is a necessity to felicitate "women's safety & precautions" ? ..dont you think there are better and saner ways to do the same ?..is demonizing men & inculcating hatred and fear among women against men right way to do it ?.. but then again what's modern feminism without a bit of man hating , isnt it ?.. and then feminists wonder why they are judged for being irrational lunatics .. šŸ˜†


And you are missing my point. Did I say such a statement can just be said generally with no context behind it? No. All I said was if that sentence was used within a certain context, it is not in the least unacceptable.

And no you are not past it, because you are just going even further. The irrational lunacy I see is where people want to jump and want to go on anti-feminists tirades and seeing not being able to see beyond the so-called 'man-hating.'

Keep it up!


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Posted: 10 years ago
#68
So she didn't even say it. We all love jumping the gun don't we.

My stance:

All men are not rapists. There are thousands of good men trying to create a society that is safe and fair for all genders.

If a person intentionally generalizes any gender, religion, ethnicity, group or community then that person is grossly wrong. They are in serious help of education to alleviate their bigotry and ignorance.

If a person is misquoted, misinterpreted or commits a faux pas then that person deserves benefit of the doubt. Media is notorious for twisting words for sensation. We all think faster than we speak and poorly phrase sentences or miscommunicate our meaning. Always clarify a person's actual "intent" before passing judgement. Not every man who says something wrong is a misogynist at heart. Not every woman who says something wrong is a misandrist at heart. The feminist vs. anti-feminist battle has gotten so intense that people are judged by their parts and not as a whole.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani


And you are missing my point. Did I say such a statement can just be said generally with no context behind it? No. All I said was if that sentence was used within a certain context, it is not in the least unacceptable.

And no you are not past it, because you are just going even further. The irrational lunacy I see is where people want to jump and want to go on anti-feminists tirades and seeing not being able to see beyond the so-called 'man-hating.'

Keep it up!



Ok .. then, i ll leave it to the irrational feminists to lend their angelic helping hand in decoding the unknown realms that lies behind the not-so obvious man hating statements like " every man is a potential rapist" šŸ˜†.. only dedicated feminists can do that & clearly they are upto the task .. so continue with your rants but you ll have to excuse me.. and also i have to abide by my post limits as a groupbie .. aint no feminist solving that problem.. šŸ˜† ..or can they ?.. šŸ¤” šŸ˜†

On an unrelated note , all the sarcasm notwithstanding i honestly have nothing against you in particular.. i have argued with you twice in this forum - once with a previous ID which got banned (not surprising i know šŸ˜†)& now with this ID .. i do think that you have your heart in the right place (even if your argument is irrational šŸ˜† ) .. its just this predicament , it sucks .. period ! .. i am not OK with such insane feminism.. thats all..
Edited by Mighty-Zeus - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Read all statements. Note your emotional reaction to each statement. Reflect why your reactions differ. Think of the difference between intent, verbiage, connotation and meaning.

Every black man is a potential thug.
Every black man is a potential victim of police brutality.

Every human is a potential thug.
Every human is a potential victim of police brutality.

Every Hispanic is a potential illegal alien.
Every Hispanic is a potential victim of profiling.

Every human is a potential illegal alien.
Every human is a potential victim of profiling.

Every gay man is a potential pedophile.
Every gay man is a potential victim of homophobia.

Every human is a potential pedophile.
Every human is a potential victim of homophobia.

Every woman is a potential s**t.
Every human is a potential victim of s**t shaming.

Every human is a s**t.
Every human is a potential victim of s**t shaming.

Every child is a potential genius.
Every black child is a potential genius.
Every white child is a potential genius.
Every little boy is a potential genius.
Every little girl is a potential genius.
Every human is a potential genius.

Why did someone say what they did? What did they mean?

Is it intentionally to generalize - condemn them
Does it require more context - explore
Not enough data - explore
Did exploration expose biases - condemn them
Did exploration expose miscommunication - engage in further dialogue

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EDIT 2: I am highly likely to take great offense and be outraged over the black man, Hispanic, gay man and woman direct potential statements, but actually chime in support for the potential victim statements. Both statements carry an implied meaning of social prejudices, but it is interesting how victim of prejudice is more palatable than typecast by prejudice. The exercise is not to just justify or condemn any statements, but a reflection on how connotation and social environments have on how we interpret or react to statements.
Edited by return_to_hades - 10 years ago

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