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Posted: 10 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: atominis

With due respect, people can form their own opinions also and need not get swayed after reading critical opinions only.

I felt some things in it were highly debatable (and I am being polite when I type that). Even more if you think how you would react if a man said the same words. And yes I can not imagine my sister/brother, best friend or mother/father talk like that and myself accepting it all without disagreement. I would dissociate from people who practised some of the choices mentioned there, and that includes both men and women. I cannot relate to such people. Sorry but that's #MyChoice.

CPR, you are a Rani fan so I hope you remember Ghulam. What is Rani's father like, in that film? What does he do? He is a rich fatcat who drinks, parties and brings a new "aunty" with him every night. The aunty herself is some high society butterfly who parties, gets drunk and accompanies new men as her dahling arm candies every other evening. One day when Rani's father asks her to greet an aunty, she refuses out of disgust and quarrel ensues. She's frustrated with the environment in her home and seeks escape outside, roaming with boys of street gangs.

Now think of the choice video my dear. Going by that video's logic and the defenses on not to judge people etc, the father, the aunty and Rani's characters in Ghulam are adults and each can do anything, no? Her father is a widower so why bother? He has consent, the social butterfly aunty has consent, so why anyone gets bothered? He didn't bother about daughter. Daughter in turn felt frustrated, she didn't bother to share anything with anyone so she made her choice to sneak out every night and go with random gangs.

Is it all okay? No problem? Sounds alright? Such lives, homes, families are acceptable? Would you tolerate this yourself? Or a relative who behaved this way?

Likes and dislikes ratio or number of views does not indicate acceptance and agreement. SRK movies' videos, in recent years, usually get record views and likes online but are panned in reality. Had anyone actually pulled in all big data and analysed sentiment and drawn a conclusion then I would believe what its reception has been like.

Finally, I will only request supporters of this video to stop bashing celebs for their weight, work ethic, lifestyle etc if they believe we should not judge and let everything be in the name of #MyChoice. Jaya Bachchan's choice to be grumpy, Salman's choice to remain unmarried, Adi Chopra's choice to remain invisible to public eye, audiences' choice to make a film hit or flop (stop judging them as brainless rickshaw wallahs or pseudos)...everything is #MyChoice for everyone. After all people can be like anything, they exist, so how can we judge them?


Do not get me wrong. I too think there were debatable phrases in the video. Phrases that I did not necessarily agree with either. This video wasn't meant for every man out there. Neither was it meant for every woman out there. In other words, what I am trying to say, is that there are wrongs in both genders. Like Sonakshi said it should have appealed to a more appropriate audience - which somehow it failed to do.


Going to your Ghulam example - yeah its "my choice" for each character on what they want to do. But is that choice right or wrong? In the movie example it is absolutely wrong. To answer those questions you presented, the answer is an obvious no, no, no. Sure its their choice, but that doesn't make their choice right. In our society and culture it is considered wrong. In other cultures, not so much.


As far as bashing, I don't believe I have done that. So I don't know if that was a reference to me or someone else. You've made your points well, no doubt. And I agree with some. I've already stated the flaws I see in the video, but on an overall note I took many more positives out of it than negatives.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: dietcoke1

the line 'to have sex OUTSIDE of marriage'...should have been changed to 'To have sex WITHOUT marriage'...It just shows how poor choice of words can led to something being interpreted in the wrong way.


Did not anyone noticed it before they displayed it? It is funny how they just put it up...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheRowdiest


lived a middle class life ???? 😆 ... forget abt it saachi , i have doubt some have ever gone to india , for them India is all about banning India's daughter , targeting Anushka, targeting Deepika... so india is a country who has never respected women 😆😉


I know Minnie. ABCDs.. They make me laugh though. 😆Not generalizing but most of them do. Don't even call themselves Indian and are making zilch difference in India.. But will take no time before trashing the country. 😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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^ I don't know who you are referring to, but stating opinions does not imply thrashing a country. So what if I'm born and raised in America. My heart is always with India. I am more of a 'fob' than most people born in India. So please don't disrespect those that you wish to call 'ABCD's'. Not all are the same.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cutiepie Rani

^ I don't know who you are referring to, but stating opinions does not imply thrashing a country. So what if I'm born and raised in America. My heart is always with India. I am more of a 'fob' than most people born in India. So please don't disrespect those that you wish to call 'ABCD's'. Not all are the same.


Chillax. Not talking about you. Didn't I say.. Not generalizing in my previous post.

But You are sensitive. Many here though are quite funny ABCds 😊

But sorry. ABCDs.. I will say so. #myChoice. 😉
Edited by NimbuMirchi - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I got time to watch the video just now and I liked it , no I loved it actually, and I appreciate Homi, and all those who associated with the video, for coming out of the cocoon , for avoiding the usual cliches associated with woman empowerment and for stressing the concept of individuality rather than woman empowerment.
I liked the video cause I didn't dissect each and every sentence used in the documentary to blindly criticize it, I like the video cause I understand that,by using the sentence my pleasure may be your pain is not denoting physical pain . We can interpret the sentence no pain, no gain in different manner , it can use negatively and positively.
And it is sad that from the whole video , few people listened only one message "having sex outside marriage " and discarded all the other messages . The sentence was actually " it is my wish to have sex outside marriage , without marriage and it is my wish to choose not to have sex" Wasn't it implying that it is her choice to make whatever decision in her life and no one have the right to restrict her from taking decision pertaining to her body ? What is wrong in that her body , her soul she /he can do anything without hurting others .
A lot have misinterpreted about having sex outside marriage, but I didn't see a single comment on the choice of not having sex. I would like to know how many married woman has the choice to not have sex when she don't have the mood. Does a married woman ( any class ) really have the choice to bear/Or not bear the child when she wished to do so? How many married woman has the right to wear the dress they wish to wear? How many women have the choice to stay single until they wish to marry? And yet they heard only one sentence having sex outside the marriage.

Gender equality is not only about having financial independence or having decision making power at home or building a toilet inside the home, it is more than that. What we need is not woman empowerment, but equal treatment with the other gender. I think in the 5 minute video they have conveyed lot.
I saw the counter video too, which is filled with vulgarity, and nothing new in that video.If a man would like to continue as a mama boy or if a man wishes to have sex outside marriage or before marriage or if they choose to betray a woman after having sex, or if they wish to have sex all 7 days in a week they have the privilege to do that, cause they are men..And all their action will be justified by the society with the belief that" if the leaf falls on the thorns or the thorn falls on a leaf, whatever may be, it is the leaf that gets torn off" hey girl, do not go and do things, and then later on complain about it. whether you do it or they do, you are the one to suffer. hence, make no room for any such incidents only.
Criticize, appreciate or bash , it is your choice and that shows what you truly are.
Edited by ramyarn - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#57
Any person can have positive thoughts/motives (although I HIGHLY doubt the makers of this video care beyond their image), but that doesn't excuse them from brickbats if their final product is less than satisfactory and encourages practices that defeat the theme of the video itself.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Right place for that video is dustbin if its about women empowerment.

If its a comedy then we can just laugh on those jokers.

In country like India where where women dont get higher education, right to work, proper food, right to select life partner and many more basic thing. In such country deepy and homi fighting for sex, staying out till 4am, kids are personal property of women and permission of father not required, inspiring them to show ur bra , go for extra marital affair / pre merital sex but still its positive thought and motive?.

completely ignored all important issues and talking just nonsense but people should understand hidden or non existing positive thought.

Dippy or homi should come out and explain their positive thought if there is any.
Edited by White-Rose - 10 years ago

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