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Posted: 10 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi


All these videos.. focus on Urban, privileged women.

What about lower middle class.. rural women?

They need women empowerment to stand on their own feet, so they don't have to endure domestic violence, so they can stop their lil girl getting married.


Most of you commenting here probably have never lived a middle class life. So for you all.. may be empowering is about that video.


But Most % of Indian women population have very basic priorities.


Just an online discussion is not changing anything. Try finding ground level reality and if privileged, do something rather than writing essays here.



PS - I know I sound moralistic. But honestly... most discussion here always focus urban living/thinking, which hardly reflects some % of population of India. hardly,I have seen views that reflects a middle class living. Forget rural.


All these celebrities supporting cause is ridiculous. They are biggest hypocrites. Why don't anyone say NO to item numbers? Or may be objectifying women is a new age Feminist way of Women empowerment. 🤔



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Posted: 10 years ago
#42
I think it's a poorly made film with its intentions in the right place. But people are allowed to disagree and mock it--freedom of thought and speech.
I think the whole MY CHOICE is a brilliant idea with bad execution. And like someone said, it would be nice if Deepika was this vocal on a regular basis and not only right before her films release. I'm not saying she's not a feminist or whatever, but she also isn't a Emma Watson. Emma's HeForShe was a much better speech and campaign in general b/c it emphasis EQUALITY on both sides. Not women empowerment being solely all about women and women choices...but women having the SAME and EQUAL opportuinties to express themselves in all arenas. That's why it was a success b/c it wasn't hypocritical.

The sex outside of marriage has irked a lot of people, which it should. Could you imagine if a man had said that? It's badly worded. If it a woman's chocie to have sex whenever she wants--she doesn't have to wait till marriage and can have multiple partners. We shouldn't s**t sham...but that's not what the film discussed. Also, I doubt that idea would be ok in more of the conservative parts of India.

I think it's perfectly fair to rip it apart and critique it b/c on the same spectrum there's people buying every single word b/c they're die-hard fans. It's a good balance b/c it reinforces conversation, discussion and opens up a forum for argument and new beliefs.

I wouldn't call it negativity b/c most people applauded her for taking steps towards female empowerment, but not all of agree with EVERY single idea presented by her.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#43
Too much of a sensitive issue!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#44
The message IS good, but all these are personal choices, of course it's YOUR choice but if you really want to empower something, then make a video for the girls who get no education or get taken out of schools for the further studies of their brothers! It's a video about empowerment and i'm shocked it did not even touch the subject of education for women, which IS a big issue, not only in India but in many countries? It just mashed up and put together too much in a video for a country like India, where women already have so much going on. This 2-3 minutes video will do nothing for the real issues; the comments in the YT section is a proof of that. At the end of the day, it's about equality, not superiority. I did like how it touched upon some subjects; having a different lover, being whatever size you want, to marry or not to marry, to have children or not to. But again, it does not exactly touch the issues that need to be highlighted right now. Just not the right time for a video like this, at least to me.

A 2-3 minutes video will not change mindsets or a thinking that has been going on for centuries; it will take some time. It's your choice but it will also have consequences.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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the line 'to have sex OUTSIDE of marriage'...should have been changed to 'To have sex WITHOUT marriage'...It just shows how poor choice of words can led to something being interpreted in the wrong way.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi


All these videos.. focus on Urban, privileged women.

What about lower middle class.. rural women?

They need women empowerment to stand on their own feet, so they don't have to endure domestic violence, so they can stop their lil girl getting married.


Most of you commenting here probably have never lived a middle class life. So for you all.. may be empowering is about that video.


lived a middle class life ???? 😆 ... forget abt it saachi , i have doubt some have ever gone to india , for them India is all about banning India's daughter , targeting Anushka, targeting Deepika... so india is a country who has never respected women 😆😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: NidhiAS.Raizada

Too much of a sensitive issue!


yeah, wherez the censor Board? 😡😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheRowdiest


lived a middle class life ???? 😆 ... forget abt it saachi , i have doubt some have ever gone to india , for them India is all about banning India's daughter , targeting Anushka, targeting Deepika... so india is a country who has never respected women 😆😉


If they see DURGA maa in her avatar... they will say "woops... even Indian women r powerful". 😆 Dont go there. 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#49
With due respect, people can form their own opinions also and need not get swayed after reading critical opinions only.

I felt some things in it were highly debatable (and I am being polite when I type that). Even more if you think how you would react if a man said the same words. And yes I can not imagine my sister/brother, best friend or mother/father talk like that and myself accepting it all without disagreement. I would dissociate from people who practised some of the choices mentioned there, and that includes both men and women. I cannot relate to such people. Sorry but that's #MyChoice.

CPR, you are a Rani fan so I hope you remember Ghulam. What is Rani's father like, in that film? What does he do? He is a rich fatcat who drinks, parties and brings a new "aunty" with him every night. The aunty herself is some high society butterfly who parties, gets drunk and accompanies new men as her dahling arm candies every other evening. One day when Rani's father asks her to greet an aunty, she refuses out of disgust and quarrel ensues. She's frustrated with the environment in her home and seeks escape outside, roaming with boys of street gangs.

Now think of the choice video my dear. Going by that video's logic and the defenses on not to judge people etc, the father, the aunty and Rani's characters in Ghulam are adults and each can do anything, no? Her father is a widower so why bother? He has consent, the social butterfly aunty has consent, so why anyone gets bothered? He didn't bother about daughter. Daughter in turn felt frustrated, she didn't bother to share anything with anyone so she made her choice to sneak out every night and go with random gangs.

Is it all okay? No problem? Sounds alright? Such lives, homes, families are acceptable? Would you tolerate this yourself? Or a relative who behaved this way?

Likes and dislikes ratio or number of views does not indicate acceptance and agreement. SRK movies' videos, in recent years, usually get record views and likes online but are panned in reality. Had anyone actually pulled in all big data and analysed sentiment and drawn a conclusion then I would believe what its reception has been like.

Finally, I will only request supporters of this video to stop bashing celebs for their weight, work ethic, lifestyle etc if they believe we should not judge and let everything be in the name of #MyChoice. Jaya Bachchan's choice to be grumpy, Salman's choice to remain unmarried, Adi Chopra's choice to remain invisible to public eye, audiences' choice to make a film hit or flop (stop judging them as brainless rickshaw wallahs or pseudos)...everything is #MyChoice for everyone. After all people can be like anything, they exist, so how can we judge them?
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Posted: 10 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: dietcoke1

the line 'to have sex OUTSIDE of marriage'...should have been changed to 'To have sex WITHOUT marriage'...It just shows how poor choice of words can led to something being interpreted in the wrong way.



She said 2 sentences: Sex before marriage and sex outside marriage. It means premarital sex and extramarital sex. Both are #MyChoice. Others' views be damned. No one interpreted it wrong. They understood it as it was said.

Only apologists are trying to put a spin and talk of open marriage in which both partners have no problem in what each of them does. It was extramarital sex by #MyChoice only.

Infact earlier I used to wonder why these religion types make such hue and cry about culture or why it is said that films and media spoil youth. But now, I am compelled to rethink. Maybe the moral brigade is not entirely wrong. Maybe at times they do have a valid point.
I used to believe "feminazi" was a term used only by disgruntled MCPs. But after this, I feel I will never dismiss anyone, I will consider each and every side, weigh in, before making conclusions.

If freedom means I do anything and people say nothing against it, expect nothing, blah blah then sorry, it is anarchy. Extremism of any kind is wrong. It is better to examine a middle path and keep striving then.

BTW, Govinda's Meri marzi was better than this choicenama. Atleast it was entertaining and fun.

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