My Reaction was more Emotional Than Moralistic - Aamir on AIB & Da - Page 2

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Posted: 10 years ago
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We are still stuck up with AIB? Move on


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Brilliant. Loved every bit of it.
Aamir is one of very few credible persons in bollywood, who you stop and listen too.

Regarding the AIB fiasco, I agree it was cheap and vulgur. The jokes were pathetic( ebola, ISIS etc) and those involved even more so. The reaction to the whole thing has been extremley negative and that in itself tells a story.

As for Dehli Belli, I for one am at a loss as to why people are comparing the two?? There is nothing similar about the two, nothing at all.

It is based on a fictional premise and even as an adult comedy, it has a story to tell. The characters are fictional, lead such a life that no-one wants to emulate them. And these people are not there in the movie to hurl cringe-worthy insults at each other. Nor they are behaving like they have just experienced puberty.

AIB's has none of that. Here they came together for the sole purpose of seeing who could say the most disgusting jokes ever( even in the adult sense). The complete opposite.

Also the said audience is indian. Where issues like rape, lack of education etc are huge. In that environment, doing something like this is extremly stupid. The audience in the west can differentiate b/w a roast(even majority ilof them dont like such stuff) and a normal interview etc. Here its not like that( and I am not blaming Indian people here). So yeah context is extremly important as well.


As for freedom of speech, its the most abused word in this case and generally too in today world. Every and each thing doesnt come under the umberalla of freedom of speech. Insult someone in public, freedom of speech; misbehave with someone; freedom of speech;and the list goes on. Everthing is defended as freedom, which is extremly sad and worrying for our future. There is a fine line b/w that & being idiotic/vulgur and downright pathetic. The show is the latter.

Completely agree with what Aamir has said here. Great response to all those defending this bullshit in the name of FOS. The funny thing is that those are first to call others to stup up. Such hypocrites.




Edited by Arsal-AK - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice


Love his answer...

@ red...and being responsible and expecting a little responsibility from others is not giving up on democracy...infact just because in a democracy we have so much freedom...so we have to be more responsible..

@blue...I am sure he is talking about Arpita here...and I have always agreed to his use of the term violent for such roasts.

@green...the supporters of FOS who ask others to shut up our plain hypocrites...don't go in the kitchen if u can't take the heat..simple.


I haven't read the entire bit, but completely agree with the highlighted bits. Violent comment doesn't have to be taken literally. It's all about the context, ain't it 😉

On a serious note, loved the green bit to the core. Such hypocrites should be the first to shut up 😆 And I loved the bit he spoke about the moderate stand. It's always the middle group that faces the heat from both ends...

All in all, I think these views on AIB are quite balanced and if I say so, one of the best I have read on here. His opinion is his personal opinion and he is entitled to it even if he may have a foot in the mouth syndrome at times. Much much better than preaching about major issues of India while doing nothing about it. Even if for any supposedly selfish reasons, he has a big hand for bringing in a show like SMJ.
Edited by Fiery.Fawkes - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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While I disagree completely with Aamir's justification os using adult comedy in Delhi Belly vs AIB roast, I agree with the points he made about Arpita. They should have never involved her name in the jokes, especially when she isn't a part of Bollywood.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fiery.Fawkes


I haven't read the entire bit, but completely agree with the highlighted bits. Violent comment doesn't have to be taken literally. It's all about the context, ain't it 😉

On a serious note, loved the green bit to the core. Such hypocrites should be the first to shut up 😆 And I loved the bit he spoke about the moderate stand. It's always the middle group that faces the heat from both ends...

All in all, I think these views on AIB are quite balanced and if I say so, one of the best I have read on here. His opinion is his personal opinion and he is entitled to it even if he may have a foot in the mouth syndrome at times. Much much better than preaching about major issues of India while doing nothing about it. Even if for any supposedly selfish reasons, he has a big hand for bringing in a show like SMJ.


He is saying the same thing that he had said before but in a more articulate way...like I said before both Aamir and Shahrukh said the same things but SRK's response was more articulate and Aamir was all over the place😆...not everyone has the skill to speak in an articulate fashion if they are not prepared...can't kill a man over it right?😆...people were so hung up over the use of the word VIOLENT that they refused to see that he never asked for a ban or anything...he was just giving his opinions...and he got bashed by those who say that a person should be allowed to speak whatever shit they want😆😆...In other words...the upholders of FOS wanted Aamir to be RESPONSIBLE ...there u go😉😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice


He is saying the same thing that he had said before but in a more articulate way...like I said before both Aamir and Shahrukh said the same things but SRK's response was more articulate and Aamir was all over the place😆...not everyone has the skill to speak in an articulate fashion if they are not prepared...can't kill a man over it right?😆...people were so hung up over the use of the word VIOLENT that they refused to see that he never asked for a ban or anything...he was just giving his opinions...and he got bashed by those who say that a person should be allowed to speak whatever shit they want😆😆...In other words...the upholders of FOS wanted Aamir to be RESPONSIBLE ...there u go😉😆


BHAI is that phatu ab amir ke kandhe se bandookh chalege 😆
Edited by MaNeBhiPyarKiya - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: kabeeraspeaking



This interview is coming quite some time after his initial reaction to it (2-3 weeks?) and I'm sure after all the backlash that it generated, he informed himself further on the issue to defend his stance.

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His stance on the issue still sounds as reasonable to me as his initial reaction, but I'm sure people who don't like to hear him talk will find fault with his revised way of putting it too. It's interesting that he heavily brought up Arpita's looming but lack of consented role in the issue...what surprises me most about it is that Arjun (close to Salman & was even seeing her at some point) knew about the script beforehand but didn't think it wise to let everyone involved know that these jokes wouldn't fly...surely he would've thought of how his mentor would respond to this or rather, why didn't he think ahead to how Salman/Arpita would feel and what they would do (get the jokes removed)...? No matter which way you look at it, it just seems like a badly thought out idea.




@ first bold: I'm sure you are right. Except the first time he spoke about it he used the word violent and he claimed that he hadn't seen it but Karan and Arjun told him about it. Personally I find it hard to believe that out of the whole show Karan and Arjun told him the parts that involved Farida Jalal, Reema Lago and Arpita Khan. As for him watching the show after the backlash to educate himself, all of Arpita's parts were edited out. To me it sounds like he was told about the Arpita parts form another source and took a personal issue with it. Not saying he cannot. Just that I'm not buying his explanation for how his reaction came about.

@ second bold: I didn't know that Arjun knew about all the jokes against Arpita in advance. I didn't know any of them knew of the full script. But if they did or if Arjun did then you are right, he does know Salman and his family well enough and should have known someone was going to react badly to those jokes. Or maybe he did warn them and they just didn't listen to him.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice

he got bashed by those who say that a person should be allowed to speak whatever shit they want😆😆...In other words...the upholders of FOS wanted Aamir to be RESPONSIBLE ...there u go😉😆


Hahahaha I can't stop rolling and laughing everytime Pseudo FOS supporters pounce on others for their opinion. Hypocrites, hypocrites living in the world of flying pigs 😆 But then again not everyone can be blinder free to see their own flaws, no wonder idiots blind as bat go nuts when people call them out for their crap. After all truth is one bitter pill to swallow and BAM the block button. Tsk, Tsk, Russell...😉😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaNeBhiPyarKiya


BHAI is that phatu ab amir ke kandhe se bandookh chalege 😆


Bhai is not being a fattu but smart here👏...I mean its no rocket science to guess what a brother's response to his little sister being insulted like that in front of a live audience of 4000 people would be...so he did what he had to do behind the scenes and got the jokes removed and not giving anymore importance to the AIB douches by talking about them publicly😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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a very civil and well balanced reply
i agree with most of what he said!!

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