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Posted: 11 years ago
india dont have any national language since its inception. It have only official language English Hindi . Its good for a multilingual country like india.
Edited by Bazigar - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Bandwagon-er


Actually it never was..Just a popular misconception..But there was no legal provision to support it:)

Even I learnt that in school..guess our teachers just sucked😆



I don't know about misconception yo. I had read it in books, it was officially published in school books back then. I think after coming across some legal cases, they have made the change. I think it's recent, thus I wasn't aware of it. But yes National language, flower, animal, emblem etc etc was part of the curriculum, not a misconception. I think that was the reason why Hindi was a compulsory subject back then.

As for the change, I am not too sure what my opinion is. There are definitely pros and cons associated with not having a National language.


Edited by Fiery.Phoenix - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
@BI: I didn't make your post out to be anything other than what you wrote. You were laughing(expressed through LOL emoticons) at Indians( your observation about Indians like you put it) cos they are comfortable talking in English and they spoke English more than their native language. And also expecting them to understand why an actress who has worked in Hindi industry for more than a decade can't be expected to speak few lines in Hindi.

For which I just mentioned that Indians are atleast bilingual and can speak their regional language while interacting with other Indians in a language which is more globally accepted(English) as everyone doesn't understand Hindi.


Edit: In the end what my point was that one person(Katrina) can learn a language(Hindi) cos she works in a Hindi industry but how can 1 billion Indians of different ethnicity all converse in a same "NATIVE" language. So they(urban) resort to speaking in English(mostly taught everywhere now) which is common even though they come from different places. But you didn't understand that POV made to put down Indians or Indian hypocrisy just to make a point about one person(Kat).


Edited by .Elixir. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
This article explain it well , including all regional languages :

India doesn't have any 'national language'

What does the Constitution say on languages?

Article 343 of the Constitution and the Official Languages Act say that the official language of the Union will be Hindi. However, the attempt to adopt Hindi as the official language was strongly opposed by several non-Hindi speaking states, especially Tamil Nadu, which erupted in violent protests leading to a compromise in allowing the use of English also for official purposes. Thus, the Constitution and the act allowed English to be used for transaction of business in Parliament, by Centre and states and for certain purposes in high courts for 15 years. Later, the act was amended in 1967 to allow continuation of English for official purposes. It is argued that while Hindi is the official language it was never given the status of national language, as India, being a multilingual country, has no single national language. Article 351, a directive, says it is the duty of the Union to promote the spread of Hindi language, so that it may serve as a medium of expression for all the elements of the composite culture of India, never using the term national language to refer to Hindi.

How many languages does the Constitution list?

The Constitution listed fourteen languages " Assamese, Bengali, Gujarati, Hindi, Kannada, Kashmiri, Malayalam, Marathi, Oriya, Punjabi, Sanskrit, Tamil, Telugu, and Urdu " in Eighth Schedule, in 1950. Since then, the list has been expanded thrice, once to include Sindhi, second time to include Konkani, Manipuri and Nepali and yet again to add four more languages " Bodo, Santhali, Maithili and Dogri " bringing total to 22 scheduled languages. The claims of many more languages for inclusion is under consideration.

What's the three-language policy that was recommended for education in the country?

The three-language formula recommends the study of a modern Indian language, preferably a south Indian language, apart from Hindi and English in Hindi-speaking states and the study of the regional language along with Hindi and English in non-Hindi speaking states. The All India Council for Education in 1956 recommended the adoption of the three-language formula and it was endorsed widely and adopted by the chief ministers conference. This three-language policy was reiterated by the National Policy on Education in 1968, yet again in 1986 and was adopted as a Programme of Action by Parliament in 1992. Yet, an official review of the three-language formula in the National Curriculum Framework for School Education in January 2000 found that in many states, apart from Hindi and English, Sanskrit, Arabic or even European languages like French and German were being allowed in place of a modern Indian language.

Why has the attempt to increase use of Hindi led to controversy?

Large states with non-Hindi speaking populations have always resented what they see as an imposition of Hindi and huge budgetary allocation each year for promotion of Hindi as official language and incidents due to acrimony over this issue have increased in recent years. For instance, Tamil Nadu assembly passed a resolution in December 2006 to make Tamil the official language of Madras HC. Earlier, West Bengal too had sought to introduce Bengali in Calcutta HC. Article 348 (2) of the Constitution and Section 7 of the Official Languages Act, 1963, together entitle Hindi-speaking states like Bihar, UP, Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan to use their official language, Hindi, in their respective high courts. Tamil Nadu CM M Karunanidhi wants an extension of this constitutional provision to Tamil as well. SC rejected request of both Tamil Nadu and West Bengal claiming it would impact transfer and posting of high court judges all over India as it would be possible to post only Tamil-knowing judges to the Madras high court and would involve voluminous work of translating thousands of orders and laws in Tamil. But, of course, the same problem could be faced by judges from the south or other non-Hindi speaking states posted to Bihar, UP, MP and Rajasthan high courts. Again, in September this year, a Union minister from Tamil Nadu, M K Alagiri, asked to be allowed to answer questions and speak in Tamil in the Parliament. The Lok Sabha secretariat turned down the request saying that only MPs asked for interpreters in the past, not ministers, as the business of the house had to be transacted in Hindi or English.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Learning-with-the-Times-India-doesnt-have-any-national-language/articleshow/5234047.cms
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Fiery.Phoenix



Why ? You wanna be the leader standing first in the line of sacrifice ? 😆


No 😆😆

Id prefer to stay alive 😉

Atleast till I learn to surfboard. Apparently Surf boarding is cool a real girl magnet 😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Fiery.Phoenix



I don't know about misconception yo. I had read it in books, it was officially published in school books back then. I think after coming across some legal cases, they have made the change. I think it's recent, thus I wasn't aware of it. But yes National language, flower, animal, emblem etc etc was part of the curriculum, not a misconception. I think that was the reason why Hindi was a compulsory subject back then.

As for the change, I am not too sure what my opinion is. There are definitely pros and cons associated with not having a National language.



Actually...Hindi was proposed to be the National language a few times...may be that is why the misconception is there...India never had any National language...we only have regional/native languages.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Fiery.Phoenix



I don't know about misconception yo. I had read it in books, it was officially published in school books back then. I think after coming across some legal cases, they have made the change. I think it's recent, thus I wasn't aware of it. But yes National language, flower, animal, emblem etc etc was part of the curriculum, not a misconception. I think that was the reason why Hindi was a compulsory subject back then.

As for the change, I am not too sure what my opinion is. There are definitely pros and cons associated with not having a National language.



Umm..The legal case clarified the position India has had since independence..It didn't make any changes to the position..Plus Hindi was never compulsory in all of India..All states in South India have it as it's 3rd language(studied only till 8th standard)..Similarly in the North we had the option to choose Sanskrit/French/any other regional language.

Had edited the previous post to add this link. It clarifies the situation. Adding again:

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Edited by Bandwagon-er - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Bandwagon-er


Umm..The legal case clarified the position India has had since independence..It didn't make any changes to the position..Plus Hindi was never compulsory in all of India..All states in South India have it as it's 3rd language(studied only till 8th standard)..Similarly in the North we had the option to choose Sanskrit/French/any other regional language.

Had edited the previous post to add this link. It clarifies the situation. Adding again:

:)



Ahhh, glad to know. TFS.
But I am glad to have studied Hindi in school. Thanks to that, I am trilingual 😆

In Gujarat, Hindi is compulsory till 9th if I remember it correctly. In 10th, we have the option to choose between Hindi/Gujarati. This was many years back, not sure how it is now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Iam really surprised to see on this forum that Hindi is not a national language...I have no ideas until now..😕
TFs..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Fiery.Phoenix



Ahhh, glad to know. TFS.
But I am glad to have studied Hindi in school. Thanks to that, I am trilingual 😆

In Gujarat, Hindi is compulsory till 9th if I remember it correctly. In 10th, we have the option to choose between Hindi/Gujarati. This was many years back, not sure how it is now.


Pretty much the same..3 languages till class 8th and then we can choose ..also we have more options now with foreign languages being added in most schools:D

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