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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis

@Saraa

Amitabh did not rule for 25 years because he himself had to cut down on work after that accident in Coolie. Maut ke mooh se toh laut ke aaya tha! For someone like him it would be big deal to remain alive and healthy enough to walk! The fact that he still lasted, though moving on to character roles shows his drive. He had most presence, respect and charisma of all Bollywood stars. Everything from comics to temples dedicated to him. He still has it, yet people have certain criteria for accepting an actor in certain roles after a point of time.

Khans have only one thing that older actors did not have - camouflage for age. Nothing else sets them apart. And botox, plastic surgery, hair transplant, photoshop, air brushing, special effects can only serve an actor to a limited extent. Khans can stretch that limit to 55 years at most. Surely not 60!

They rarely do movies like CDI or TZP. Salman toh never touches such cinema. Or does anything different from a conventional hero.

Conventional hero has a shelf life no matter how much a star tries to extend it.

Also different films can at best enter top 5. They never translate into "rule" or "domination".

It will be a challenge for Khans to reinvent themselves and age like Bachchan later. Even doing age appropriate stuff and getting accepted/being relevant is a challenge. Ruling is far away.

Aamir and to some extent SRK have done different films and know how to reinvent. The same cannot be said for Salman.

There is no Rajinikanth stuff in Bollywood. Never will be either. North Indians either laugh or get curious why and how such an old actor is getting to call shots the way Rajini does.

After 55, it will be stiff for them. Either of them might bow out or take break himself. There is only a limit to which a human can push his body.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Saraa
That X factor was there in previous stars too. But age spares none. People express awe for Amitabh's personality and aura till date (giddy contestants and live audience on KBC are proof). But expectations from him are different now.

Same for any other actor. No matter how much fan following they have.

I am not saying Khans are going or gone yet. But 55 is the breaking point.

Salman's rise after bad phase is commendable. But not unique. Aamir has been smartest considering he did not even give clean hits earlier! Salman was always popular and had top record in 90s.

Aamir's strategies seem better as he has started doing serious SMJ, turned more to filmmaking and done TZP, Talaash where age and content was appropriate.

SRK's next films remain to be seen. Due to CDI and willingness to play older roles, father to teen boys, I do feel he can manage mature roles.

Salman...I do not say he is not smart. But his niche is still that roguish charmer, which has limited shelf life. I never saw him pull off success in different roles. At least other Khans have TZP, CDI to credit.

I can't comment on Salman till we see his line up unfold in future.

Till now we have only past to draw from, to form opinions. And Salman's past does not have any example of an unconventional, mature role pulled off with success at BO.

In real world audience is in transitory stage. There is no clear demand for retirement of old actors. But they are increasingly willing to give chances to newbies. Many do comment on Khans' age, quality of movies, hype but still watch them out of sheer nostalgia (and also because they leave no other choice with their holiday releases).

Khans can reinvent. Strive to be relevant. But "ruling" after 55 is very hard...

I could bring myself to vouch for their relevance but not the absolute domination post 55.

After a point of time even coterie in media and industry moves on or fades. The "upar aaka neeche kaka" coterie of Rajesh Khanna also faded. No tactics worked.

We can only hope Khans do not have to work as new lot's dads or uncles in future. I want decent relevance for them. Rule or no rule!

Time will tell how they turn out.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#63
IMHO salman shud reitre at his BO Peak
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Posted: 11 years ago
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all these Khans any do so for the next 3-5 years...not only Salman but for any Khans to be doing this for the next 10 years is going to be nearly IMPOSSIBLE.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis

@Saraa

That X factor was there in previous stars too. But age spares none. People express awe for Amitabh's personality and aura till date (giddy contestants and live audience on KBC are proof). But expectations from him are different now.

Same for any other actor. No matter how much fan following they have.

I am not saying Khans are going or gone yet. But 55 is the breaking point.

Salman's rise after bad phase is commendable. But not unique. Aamir has been smartest considering he did not even give clean hits earlier! Salman was always popular and had top record in 90s.

Aamir's strategies seem better as he has started doing serious SMJ, turned more to filmmaking and done TZP, Talaash where age and content was appropriate.

SRK's next films remain to be seen. Due to CDI and willingness to play older roles, father to teen boys, I do feel he can manage mature roles.

Salman...I do not say he is not smart. But his niche is still that roguish charmer, which has limited shelf life. I never saw him pull off success in different roles. At least other Khans have TZP, CDI to credit.

I can't comment on Salman till we see his line up unfold in future.

Till now we have only past to draw from, to form opinions. And Salman's past does not have any example of an unconventional, mature role pulled off with success at BO.

In real world audience is in transitory stage. There is no clear demand for retirement of old actors. But they are increasingly willing to give chances to newbies. Many do comment on Khans' age, quality of movies, hype but still watch them out of sheer nostalgia (and also because they leave no other choice with their holiday releases).

Khans can reinvent. Strive to be relevant. But "ruling" after 55 is very hard...

I could bring myself to vouch for their relevance but not the absolute domination post 55.

After a point of time even coterie in media and industry moves on or fades. The "upar aaka neeche kaka" coterie of Rajesh Khanna also faded. No tactics worked.

We can only hope Khans do not have to work as new lot's dads or uncles in future. I want decent relevance for them. Rule or no rule!

Time will tell how they turn out.

I know age spares no one but I don't agree with what you're saying about the 55 point. I think they can Rule if they make good choices when it comes to movies, no one rules forever but I say they can rule for 10 years if they are smart about their movies.

Aamir first movie was bb and he did give hits like dil hai ke manta nahi, joh jeeta wohi sikandar, Rangeela and then in 1996 he give raja Hindustani and after that there was no looking back for him.

Yeah he wasn't as popular as Srk or salman but he did well in 90s as well. For salman it was harder. He faced many problems even in his personal life so for him I think it was much much harder than it was ever for aamir. But he bounced back and that was commendable. When aamir was struggling no one expected him to bounce back and hence that made it bit easier for him. As there were not expectations but from salman people had expectations as he was a superstar in 90s and early 2000s so his downfall was more noticeable and people use to bash him much more for it. There was pressure but salman managed to bounce back and come on the top position.

I don't think khans movies are success only because they released on holidays. Ready was a success as well and it was non holiday release.

But like I said time will tell. We will see what happens in future, no one can tell future.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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dear lord...who wants them to rule for another 10yrs. yukkk

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Saraa, Aamir's only clean hits before Lagaan are QSQT, Dil, Rangeela, Raja Hindustani. All others are semi hits/average/above average. Lagaan revived his status. He gave hits. But no one thought of him as a BO magnate. Ghajini shook all trade pundits. Aamir's personal life was tossed too (issues with own father and brother are worse than spats with GF) and when he disappeared for 4 years people thought he was out or would continue only as a respected actor but not a superstar. He reshaped his career well despite odds. I think he even surprised himself!
Salman has not done anything different in cinema. I mean success with unconventional roles.

I still maintain it will be Salman to watch out for, how he reinvents himself. Others have shown ability to pull off different films.

Khans are success not just due to holidays. But there is no denying that those astounding records, rule and domination come from festive releases in recent years. This is why they vie to monopolise these dates for maximum returns.

Salman "dominates" due to Dabanggs, Tigers and not Readys. And domination comes from festivals/holidays.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis

Saraa, Aamir's only clean hits before Lagaan are QSQT, Dil, Rangeela, Raja Hindustani. All others are semi hits/average/above average. Lagaan revived his status. He gave hits. But no one thought of him as a BO magnate. Ghajini shook all trade pundits. Aamir's personal life was tossed too (issues with own father and brother are worse than spats with GF) and when he disappeared for 4 years people thought he was out or would continue only as a respected actor but not a superstar. He reshaped his career well despite odds. I think he even surprised himself!

Salman has not done anything different in cinema. I mean success with unconventional roles.

I still maintain it will be Salman to watch out for, how he reinvents himself. Others have shown ability to pull off different films.

Khans are success not just due to holidays. But there is no denying that those astounding records, rule and domination come from festive releases in recent years. This is why they vie to monopolise these dates for maximum returns.

Salman "dominates" due to Dabanggs, Tigers and not Readys. And domination comes from festivals/holidays.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis

Saraa, Aamir's only clean hits before Lagaan are QSQT, Dil, Rangeela, Raja Hindustani. All others are semi hits/average/above average. Lagaan revived his status. He gave hits. But no one thought of him as a BO magnate. Ghajini shook all trade pundits. Aamir's personal life was tossed too (issues with own father and brother are worse than spats with GF) and when he disappeared for 4 years people thought he was out or would continue only as a respected actor but not a superstar. He reshaped his career well despite odds. I think he even surprised himself!

Salman has not done anything different in cinema. I mean success with unconventional roles.

I still maintain it will be Salman to watch out for, how he reinvents himself. Others have shown ability to pull off different films.

Khans are success not just due to holidays. But there is no denying that those astounding records, rule and domination come from festive releases in recent years. This is why they vie to monopolise these dates for maximum returns.

Salman "dominates" due to Dabanggs, Tigers and not Readys. And domination comes from festivals/holidays.


I metioned ready because that movie was a blockbuster. I know salman iconic character is Chulbul pandey but he has given successful movies in non holiday time as well. One example is ready and same apply for other khans.

I am not saying that aamir personal life wasn't difficult or bouncing back for him wasn't as hard but for salman it was much harder, you just said that no one expected aamir to become a superstar but everyone expected salman to become a superstar right from 90s. So when he had a downfall, it was much harder for him to bounce back and one big reason was the expectations people had from him. The pressure which he was in, every movie was a risk for him. He needed to prove himself because of the expectations and pressure he had from the industry, and believe me when you are in pressure it's much harder to prove yourself than when you are not in as much pressure.

I know it will be different to see how salman will reinvent himself but I am sure he will surprise all of us. He's smart, he proved it, he bounce back like anything, he knows what he's doing, he knows what kind of movies he needed to do in future to prove himself.

I will again say with the right movies he can rule for 10 years. I know you will not agree with me on this but that's what I think, and I think I am right this time
Edited by Saraa. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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NOBODY wants to get tortured for next 10 yrs with khans. NOBODY!

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