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Posted: 13 years ago
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Why attacking Vidya just because others are not having the same success in there career? It's not her fault they just need to step up to the plate and try to work harder in life and she's always been good to me I haven't seen much bad films from her maybe two average but that's just it. And don't tell me you guys don't atleast liked her in Parineeta?

But we'll see when Kahaani comes out then maybe some people might keep there mouth shut if the film becomes a big hit.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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^ I don't think anyone was attacking Vidya. The said member may have been harsh, but s/he didn't say anything outright negative about her.

And if Vidya is in the spotlight, she better face the same criticism that our darling Kareena, Priyanka and Katrina has been facing for years. It's only fair that she does. 😆
Edited by Beyond_the_Veil - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: guess_wh0



Other than Munna Bhai where she did play the aforementioned flower pot, others are average to small successes. I have no problem with Vidya hogging the lime-light. She's very good at what she does. Commercial or non-commercial. I have a problem with people calling her versatile. She's obviously not and its been proven many times when she has tried to do something different.

I also disagree with her being any serious competition to Kareena, Kat and PC. She just can't play the roles they can play. She can't play a college girl in Bodyguard, or do a Kat in MBKD or PC in Don 2.

She's mono-tone and plays the sari clad victim or a seductress well but thats where it ends. I don't see her ever reaching the top due to her lack of versatility and her lack of big banners.





Yes she can't play a college girl in Bodyguard - but how many others out there can play that role! She can't do a Kat in MBKD or PC in DON 2 - but there are plenty of other actresses who can do this... my point is - she is different. And besides, what is the point of doing something when 6-7 other actresses can do the same thing? How many actresses can actually pull of the roles she has played? Barely one or two in todays gen !

Yes she is always playing an Indian character (saree clad, as you put it) - but let me tell you, in each of her roles, she was a different saree clad woman. Just think how difficult it is to make each "similar-looking" role different ! Just because ur outlook/dress-up is the same does NOT mean the character is the same. For eg. Anupam Kher has played a father in so many of his films but each "father" he has played (ie. in DDLJ or Rang De Basanti or Khosla ka Ghosla) - has been so different. Sorry I just happen to use his example. But coming back to Vidya - Her Parineeta was a strong-headed girl in love while she was helpless n weak as Sabrina in Jessica. In Bhool bhulaiya, she portrayed a dual-personality Avni/Manjulika, in the same frame on one point in the movie. Her seductress avatar in Ishqiya was full of revenge while her seductress avatar in DTP was full of desire. I just think she has shown versatility in the similar types of roles she played, which is a very difficult thing to do. Of course she can play a college girl role...but she very well, knows the audience won't accept her as a college-going young girl - because she has a maturity on her face.. so why should she do something which will not work for her? It's almost like asking Katrina to do a Kahani ! Versatility, in an actor, in my opinion doesn't come with diff n opposite kinds of roles - it's how different you play them ! Honestly, I didn't see much difference between a Kareena in JWM n the Kareena in EMAET either... :S


Oh and talking about banners - isn't it praise-worthy that she has managed to come so far without a so-called "big banner" or "big star"... She is self-made in the industry and I respect that about her. With the brigade of firangis coming in, I honestly think Vidya is sign of hope that actresses will not just be seen as "flowerpots" in movies ...

What is overrated these days? I honestly think it's the big banner movies which are overrated !


Ok and yes - coming back to her comparison with Kangana. I just think in bollywood, if you are different - you'll get noticed. Because not everybody is a beauty like Deepika/Kat or has a dad, like Sonam. Kangana, initially did well - because she was unconventional. But she wanted to be a star, in the top league of A-listers.. n made a few messed-up choices in my opinion. Whereas Vidya - I think she never really cared whether she had to suck Naseerudin Shah's thumb in Ishqiya or play a mum to Amitabh Bachchan. I just think Vidya has better judgement, in terms of script and how to handle her career..
Edited by shalini1323 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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^I agree with you about everything👍🏼 I dont see why people are saying that Vidya is overrated when the actresses these day cannot even act if their life depended on it, atleast Vidya can pull a powerful performance. And whoever said that TDP is only about sex then I would say please actually WATCH the movie before passing a judgement out like that because TDP is much more than just a glorified po*no. Vidya was phenomenal as Silk and she was the only actress who could have pulled off the role without becoming completely trashy and vulgar about it.


Personally I don't find Kangana that appealing at all, she is a great actress no doubt but something about her just doesn't appeal to me and I find her overrated but if she chooses a good script then her career will shape up nicely
Edited by Tani91 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I LOVE both Kangana and Vidya! But I dont like Kangana in the stupid movies she's doing these days. Forget about the movie, I cant event stand her in the trailers. I dont think she can do light-hearted or flower pot roles. and, she also ruined her face. God know why!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: shalini1323





Yes she can't play a college girl in Bodyguard - but how many others out there can play that role! She can't do a Kat in MBKD or PC in DON 2 - but there are plenty of other actresses who can do this... my point is - she is different. And besides, what is the point of doing something when 6-7 other actresses can do the same thing? How many actresses can actually pull of the roles she has played? Barely one or two in todays gen !

Yes she is always playing an Indian character (saree clad, as you put it) - but let me tell you, in each of her roles, she was a different saree clad woman. Just think how difficult it is to make each "similar-looking" role different ! Just because ur outlook/dress-up is the same does NOT mean the character is the same. For eg. Anupam Kher has played a father in so many of his films but each "father" he has played (ie. in DDLJ or Rang De Basanti or Khosla ka Ghosla) - has been so different. Sorry I just happen to use his example. But coming back to Vidya - Her Parineeta was a strong-headed girl in love while she was helpless n weak as Sabrina in Jessica. In Bhool bhulaiya, she portrayed a dual-personality Avni/Manjulika, in the same frame on one point in the movie. Her seductress avatar in Ishqiya was full of revenge while her seductress avatar in DTP was full of desire. I just think she has shown versatility in the similar types of roles she played, which is a very difficult thing to do. Of course she can play a college girl role...but she very well, knows the audience won't accept her as a college-going young girl - because she has a maturity on her face.. so why should she do something which will not work for her? It's almost like asking Katrina to do a Kahani ! Versatility, in an actor, in my opinion doesn't come with diff n opposite kinds of roles - it's how different you play them ! Honestly, I didn't see much difference between a Kareena in JWM n the Kareena in EMAET either... :S


Oh and talking about banners - isn't it praise-worthy that she has managed to come so far without a so-called "big banner" or "big star"... She is self-made in the industry and I respect that about her. With the brigade of firangis coming in, I honestly think Vidya is sign of hope that actresses will not just be seen as "flowerpots" in movies ...

What is overrated these days? I honestly think it's the big banner movies which are overrated !


Ok and yes - coming back to her comparison with Kangana. I just think in bollywood, if you are different - you'll get noticed. Because not everybody is a beauty like Deepika/Kat or has a dad, like Sonam. Kangana, initially did well - because she was unconventional. But she wanted to be a star, in the top league of A-listers.. n made a few messed-up choices in my opinion. Whereas Vidya - I think she never really cared whether she had to suck Naseerudin Shah's thumb in Ishqiya or play a mum to Amitabh Bachchan. I just think Vidya has better judgement, in terms of script and how to handle her career..



So we do agree on the first point at least.

Vidya is not a threat to Kareena, Kat and PC. She doesn't compete for the same roles. Whatever the reasons.

Versatile means having or capable of many uses.

Vidya, as good as she is in one or two avatars, is incapable of playing a wide variety of roles, which in my books renders her as a very limited actor.

Some performance oriented roles of the past few years

Aishwariya Rai - Jodha Akbar
Priyanka Chopra - Fashion
Priyanka Chopra - Kaminey
Kareena Kapoor - Jab we Met
Kareena Kapoor - Omkara
Rani Mukherjee - Black
Preity Zinta - Veer Zaara


Can you see Vidya Balan replacing any of these actresses in any of these roles, maybe Black, thats it. She doesn't have the versatility to play anything out of her comfort zone.

Ash I can see doing any of those roles with the exception of JWM.
Kareena can do them all.
PC can do them all with the exception of Omkara.

These are actresses I consider Versatile. They may not be the perfect fit for every role or even the greatest actresses but they can pull off most roles.

Vidya is like a Sunny Deol. Before everyone goes crazy, its not an insult, he has 2 national awards. The best at what they do but limited.



Edited by guess_wh0 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#37
Both of them can act better then most of the current( fill the names) actresses but they are annoying too.. Don't like their personality too.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I see that glamour is being confused with versatality here. Yes Vidya fails miserably in any attempt to be glamourous. But after you take out the glamour out of the roles like these below you dont see much of a contribution of these stars as actresses.
Aishwariya Rai - Jodha Akbar
Priyanka Chopra - Fashion
Priyanka Chopra - Kaminey
Preity Zinta - Veer Zaara


The rest of these roles below I think Vidya can/could have carried off except Kareena's in JWM.
Kareena Kapoor - Jab we Met
Kareena Kapoor - Omkara
Rani Mukherjee - Black

On another note can any of the stars really replace Vidya in any of her roles?
I think we must give Vidya credit for what she has done so far with her career-she has chosen the right films, said the right things and has been spoken about for the right reasons which is an achievement really in an industry that feeds on glamour. I would say Vidya is very similar to Aamit Khan. Both are overrated alright in terms of acting talent alone but they do give quality films unlike most of their contemporaries.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: guess_wh0



So we do agree on the first point at least. Yeah ! We Do 😃👏

Vidya is not a threat to Kareena, Kat and PC. She doesn't compete for the same roles. Whatever the reasons.

Vidya is not a threat to Kareena, KAT & PC IF we are talking about fighting for "flowerpot" roles. IF the actresses want to do a solo-centric film, they must be ready to face tough competition from Vidya :)

Versatile means having or capable of many uses. Vidya, as good as she is in one or two avatars, is incapable of playing a wide variety of roles, which in my books renders her as a very limited actor.

As I said above, Vidya has already played a variety of roles - so what if they are all saree-clad or Indian ! When choosing an actress, director also needs to see whether the "outlook" matches to an extent. It does not mean one is incapable.

Some performance oriented roles of the past few years

Aishwariya Rai - Jodha Akbar - Aishwarya suited the role of Jodha, because she's drop-dead beautiful. If we are talking about historical characters, Parineeta was an equally beautiful & complicated character much like Jodha.

Priyanka Chopra - Fashion - If Priyanka did a Fashion, Vidya did something similar in Dirty Picture. About a struggling actress, how she succeeds and her downfall.

Priyanka Chopra - Kaminey - Yes, I CAN see Vidya pulling off a Kaminey just that she won't look good opposite Shahid Kapoor. Besides I forgot what Priyanka really did in Kaminey. I just rmbr it being a Shahid film.

Kareena Kapoor - Jab we Met - Yes I have not seen Vidya as very bubbly and energetic yet and I think Kareena did complete justice to it - I can't image anyone else doing it (maybe Anushka)

Kareena Kapoor - Omkara - Obviously, I can see Vidya playing this role. Perfectly well. (Ref: Eklavya) - I do consider Vidya very beautiful.. unfortunately she does not have age on her side to play young girls' roles.

Rani Mukherjee - Black - This is a tough one because I was personally moved by Rani's performance in this one. I can't seem to picture anybody else doing it.

Preity Zinta - Veer Zaara - Once again, I don't think it would be impossible for Vidya to play "damsel in distress" but she needs to suit the role too.


Can you see Vidya Balan replacing any of these actresses in any of these roles, maybe Black, thats it. She doesn't have the versatility to play anything out of her comfort zone.
You really think playing a seductress in TDP was "in her comfort zone" - What she did was very very difficult.. An actress would think 10 times before taking up such a role..

Ash I can see doing any of those roles with the exception of JWM.
Kareena can do them all.
PC can do them all with the exception of Omkara.
These are actresses I consider Versatile. They may not be the perfect fit for every role or even the greatest actresses but they can pull off most roles.
Nope, I do not see Ash pulling off a Black & JWM. I don't see Kareena doing a Black. I can't see Priyanka doing Omkara.
And just so to remind you - Ash Kareena PC - have all been in the industry for more than 10 years ! Vidya made her debut in 2005/6. Ash Kareena PC Rani Preity Kat - all had enough time to show their "versatlity"... Vidya came much after them - so if she is, being pitted against them as competition, she ought to be flattered !


Vidya is like a Sunny Deol. Before everyone goes crazy, its not an insult, he has 2 national awards. The best at what they do but limited.

Oh ya they both can't dance !😆



Edited by shalini1323 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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once again the same topic just its now Vidya vs the bhootni .Kangna looks good in psycho roles she looks like one ofscreen too.her dressing sense is worse than Vidya given her number of surgeries

P.S. i have observed in any Vidya topics some tried to put her down for all the wrong reasons .The quotes are so repetitive just like the acting of some who were mentioned here except Vidya.😆

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