What is the point of the Step Mom Remake? - Page 4

I absolutely love 'The Departed'. It is one of my favourites! Though I do love 'Blood Diamond' of that year as well!

For anyone interested, then this is the trailer. I am going to check out Internal Affairs, Geet. I like the examples you came up with :)

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGWvwjZ0eDc[/YOUTUBE]

I also loved The Departed. I have also seen Infernal Affairs and they are both good in their own way. Now I feel like watching it again. 😃

Unfortunately, there is no point to any remakes. Except lack of good script writers. I assume this is the reason it's done.
I guess it still takes a lot of creativity and talent to make a good movie whether it's a remake or not.

Like Sarkar was the only remake of an american movie (Godfather) where you see the creativity. The ability to weave a story in the Indian atmosphere. It was like taking a good book and making it into a Great screenplay. It still retained the story but scenes and culture were unique. I really loved that movie. There's also movies like Maqbool and Omkara which have taken classic tales and made them uniquely indian.

I've seen a lot of Hollywood movies are remakes of European or Asian movies. But, you still see the creativity. They (most of the time) don't copy scene for scene and make it a crappy version of a movie.
The limit is the remakes of old Hindi classics. That's real nonsense.

About Karan's foreign locations. It's a money and numbers game and the American influence on the Indian audience.
Come on...last time I went to India was in Feb and they were celebrating Valentines in a way that was even bigger than the States. My cousins bought me a valentines day card. I couldn't help resenting it inside. They've absorbed the American culture like nobody else has. You don't go to Europe and find Europeans celebrating Valentines. Atleast my family who lives in Europe doesn't celebrate it.

Now you see people dressing up for Halloween. What's up with that? Yash Chopra started the Sweden trend and there is no looking back. We love foreign locales, white skin and the west like anything!!! I guess a 100 yrs British Raj can do that to you.

We suffer from internal racism big time. I am not saying we should stick to our old traditions and not progress as a society. Maybe we should progress on how we treat the women child. Or our infrastructure. literacy or child labor. That's where we should progress. But,NO how are we progressing. Marketing, big business, captialism, We love that stuff. We eat it up. Karan appeals to that. He has not had one flop. His movies may not be that great. But, yes the multiplex, American Obsessed audience will love his movies. And so will the NRI's.

I know I might be putting down where we are heading, but I am critical of us and I want us to improve. And be proud of our own landscapes and our art.. So that's why I say this.

And Maybe it will take Karan's Step Mom bombing at the box office along with other such movies for people to start realizing we have beauty in our own country and culture.

Excellent examples Rani. And I also have to admit that there is a fascination with the "West" in India. This reminds me of a review I read recently, where the reviewer called the film "vacation po*n". There is no attempt to engage with the surroundings in any meaningful way, but you just get the picture postcard locations on screen.

I think a well-made film, set in India still works (Dev D, Jab We Met, WUS, Kaminey are some examples). But I guess if the glossy foreign locations give you an easy pass then why would someone attempt something different.

Originally posted by: -bluemoon-

Excellent examples Rani. And I also have to admit that there is a fascination with the "West" in India. This reminds me of a review I read recently, where the reviewer called the film "vacation po*n". There is no attempt to engage with the surroundings in any meaningful way, but you just get the picture postcard locations on screen.

I think a well-made film, set in India still works (Dev D, Jab We Met, WUS, Kaminey are some examples). But I guess if the glossy foreign locations give you an easy pass then why would someone attempt something different.

Hey Geet...I love that you posted something which required a relative amount of thought and introspection.

The movies you mentioned. I apologize because I haven't seen Dev D. But, JWM had some good scenes in natural settings, but otherwise again very post card perfect. Same with WUS at points.
Kaminey felt very real. That's why I like Vishal. I'm not saying things should be dark and dingy.
How about Hrishikesh Mukherjee style natural. Like yeah, I'm sitting in India. Not in a made up studio or a foreign locale. Or yes my profession is that of a police officer , but my house looks that of a multi-millionaire.

Your right that some movies attempt to be real and I love that. I see that in some movies. Karan Johar definitely does attract people and the glamor he shows is part of the reason. Plus, he has grown up rich and most of the artists and directors right now are brought up in the film industry. Maybe they show what they know.

It's not like the times of AB, Dharmendra and Jeetendra where they all pulled up their own bootstraps and the movies reflected that part of life.

Originally posted by: ranig

Your right that some movies attempt to be real and I love that. I see that in some movies. Karan Johar definitely does attract people and the glamor he shows is part of the reason. Plus, he has grown up rich and most of the artists and directors right now are brought up in the film industry. Maybe they show what they know.

It's not like the times of AB, Dharmendra and Jeetendra where they all pulled up their own bootstraps and the movies reflected that part of life.

That is an excellent point. I remember watching a Ram Gopal Verma interview where he said that he used to think KJo makes very unrealistic films and no one lives like that, till he went to Abhi-Aish's wedding. The comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but there is some truth to it. The lifestyle KJo has seen and knows is probably a lot different from other people.

Talking about RGV, Satya and Rangeela are also examples of films set in an Indian context well. I wish we could see more of that RGV in his recent films. I felt the picture postcard thing about WUS too, but not so much JWM. Especially the Ratlam bits.

Oh I was also getting sick of the same-old, same-old happening here and when I read the article about Step-Mom this idea popped into my
head.

Yes you right...JWM had some nice Indian scenes. The northern parts of India were very beautiful. Now when you have that ....why go anywhere else. I take my comment back about that particular movie. I guess that's why I loved it as well as others who had seen it.

Glad you were able to post a topic away from the same old ...same old. I read some interesting comments from many people.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/bollywood/1052954/obsession-with-foreign-locales my views on foriegn locales😛

Originally posted by: ranig

Unfortunately, there is no point to any remakes. Except lack of good script writers. I assume this is the reason it's done.
I guess it still takes a lot of creativity and talent to make a good movie whether it's a remake or not.

Like Sarkar was the only remake of an american movie (Godfather) where you see the creativity. The ability to weave a story in the Indian atmosphere. It was like taking a good book and making it into a Great screenplay. It still retained the story but scenes and culture were unique. I really loved that movie. There's also movies like Maqbool and Omkara which have taken classic tales and made them uniquely indian.

I've seen a lot of Hollywood movies are remakes of European or Asian movies. But, you still see the creativity. They (most of the time) don't copy scene for scene and make it a crappy version of a movie.
The limit is the remakes of old Hindi classics. That's real nonsense.

About Karan's foreign locations. It's a money and numbers game and the American influence on the Indian audience.
Come on...last time I went to India was in Feb and they were celebrating Valentines in a way that was even bigger than the States. My cousins bought me a valentines day card. I couldn't help resenting it inside. They've absorbed the American culture like nobody else has. You don't go to Europe and find Europeans celebrating Valentines. Atleast my family who lives in Europe doesn't celebrate it.

Now you see people dressing up for Halloween. What's up with that? Yash Chopra started the Sweden trend and there is no looking back. We love foreign locales, white skin and the west like anything!!! I guess a 100 yrs British Raj can do that to you.

We suffer from internal racism big time. I am not saying we should stick to our old traditions and not progress as a society. Maybe we should progress on how we treat the women child. Or our infrastructure. literacy or child labor. That's where we should progress. But,NO how are we progressing. Marketing, big business, captialism, We love that stuff. We eat it up. Karan appeals to that. He has not had one flop. His movies may not be that great. But, yes the multiplex, American Obsessed audience will love his movies. And so will the NRI's.

I know I might be putting down where we are heading, but I am critical of us and I want us to improve. And be proud of our own landscapes and our art.. So that's why I say this.

And Maybe it will take Karan's Step Mom bombing at the box office along with other such movies for people to start realizing we have beauty in our own country and culture.