How do you 'rate' an actor/actress?

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Posted: 15 years ago
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How do you 'rate' an actor or an actress? what in ur opinion are the essential factors that an individual needs to be given the name of actually being a good actor or actress?

Alot of actors/actresses get called names for overacting or whatever, or some are given credit or hyped to the skys for their acting talent even though some say their appears to be a lack of it - what's your criteria as a viewer - what fits your description of someone to be a rated actor or actress?

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Posted: 15 years ago
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An actor/actress needs audience,unless he/she is standing in front of a mirror.

The bigger the audience,the better 'rated' ,the actor.Without their acceptance they are nothing.The people have to pay or it is curtains for their act!They can't just perform for a dozen critics and cronies LOL .
An actor needs a stage/screen to perform...and has to get people to invest,gamble crores and back them.Without them they can act in their bedrooms.
The actor needs a director,script, technicians ..without them ,he/she might as well sit at home.
So.. an actor can be rated according to what quality of backing he/she is able to convince and the quality of product he/she has the capacity to display.
Finally an actor can be rated according to the satisfaction/joy he/she brings to the producers,directors,co-actors,exhibitors,the audience and even the popcorn vendor outside a theater.They then walk away with all the moolah and the popular awards too.Much to the dismay of those who play no role in these artistes success😆!
They definitely cannot not be rated by ME,I don't even invest a penny to write this post,I don't matter ...unless of course,I can buy up a few thousand tickets for my favorite.So that he/she gets a chance to showcase this/her talent again..I can only hope...
Recently Ranbir has been felicitated by one and all and rated as the best actor..But in reality, from,a spectacular expensive debut film...to his latest,the films are getting smaller and smaller.His films are collecting lesser and lesser money.Unless he makes good the returns to the investments(in crores) made on him...his backers are going to put lesser and lesser money on him..He simply has to persuade theaudience to pay money to watch him.Unless people rush to see his films he cannot be rated very high.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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My criteria is the actor should appear as the character in the movie. I should not see the actor in the movie i.e. Sharukh Khan the star in Om Shanti Om, but rather his character. For me it depends on the way they enact the character, and the manner in which the character is portrayed. Body language, expressions, speech - I hold everything in account. Also, I rate an actor/actress on the diversity of their roles, and I don't like watching an actor in similar type of roles, since that limits their scope.
Edited by Gossip Girl - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gossip Girl

My criteria is the actor should appear as the character in the movie. I should not see the actor in the movie i.e. Sharukh Khan the star in Om Shanti Om, but rather his character. For me it depends on the way they enact the character, and the manner in which the character is portrayed. Body language, expressions, speech - I hold everything in account. Also, I rate an actor/actress on the diversity of their roles, and I don't like watching an actor in similar type of roles, since that limits their scope.



Agree with everything you said. I "rate" an actor based on whether I am convinced by the character they are playing. A performance shouldn't look laboured either. You should see the actor transform themselves into the character they are playing.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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ajooni: what you describe is a star or an entertainer. not an actor.

1) being able to be the character of the film...from dialogues to body language to clothes to hair...everything has to speak the character...and at the end of the movie the character will stay with me... regardless of the person acting...my likes dislikes everything.

2) over a period of time the actor has to play various characters and not just stick to what he/she is good at....versatility is very imp!

3) screen presence...must light up the screen or capture your attention when they are on the screen...if the actor puts you to sleep...that's no good! lol!

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Posted: 15 years ago
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A Star is not an not actor?really?what is he/she..a cook,a doctor?
How is "acting" rated..that is a different question ..method acting,spontaneous,dramatic,comic timing etc..
We are talking here about Bollywood in a bollywood forum.
None of us have an Irrfan Khan,Rahul Bose ,Konkona or even Kangana's solo siggy,so that we can comment on 'actors'.
Here there is no difference between an actor and star..The successful actors become stars...A step up ..A higher rating.
Every one here is rating the 'star' not the 'actor' in the recent threads LOL...
So Why are Katrina Deepika,Ash described as "over rated" actors?...Who has rated them as great 'actors'.. they are always trashed? Not even their fans call them great 'actors' LOL
How are Abay Deol,Saif(national award winner),Konkona(twice winner)etc rated in this forum as"underrated?!!
Nothing succeeds like success...every thing else including critical acclaim for acting (which is quickly forgotten as soon as the box office results come) is just a prelude to the big prize-box office..A 4 star rating makes fans go crazy with expectations of a ..HIT HIT.
If Maximum number of people have appreciated their work and films over a period of time .Like voting in a democracy.. majority decides who are the leaders..big leaders and small leaders,depending on the numbers.
The bigger the audience an actor gets higher his/her rating should be.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Ajooni: I think what Lifeolicious was trying to say was that your criteria can be used to judge who is a bigger star (some stars are good actors, some are not), but not a good actor.

In the overrated/underrated thread I said the same thing about people like Konkona or Abhay Deol and the like. That they are not popular but they do have their own loyal following and have received a lot critical praise/awards with more credibility than filmfare, zee etc. So to me those actors are not underrated.

Whenever I like a film I hope it works commercially not because commercial success is a barometer of talent or quality, but so that more films like that can be made. This is the same reason that I will watch an SRK film on a DVD or when it is aired on TV, but I try to watch an Abhay Deol/Kay Kay Menon film in the theatre.


PS: I think Rahul Bose is extremely overrated as an actor, but I did have a Konkona avi and Naseeruddin Shah and Abhay Deol sigs till not that long ago. But I don't see how some people supporting a "Star" means that we should change what we think counts as good acting.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ajooni

Like voting in a democracy.. majority decides who are the leaders..big leaders and small leaders,depending on the numbers.



Yeah but once they are chosen it's not like they are all competent. There are also ways you can win a election that may not reflect the majority voices. 😆 Besides some leaders do well some don't. Hence you cannot judge an actor by their star power.

And stars don't have to be actors...Sachin Tendulkar is still the biggest star in India I think and he is not an actor.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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But I don't see how some people supporting a "Star" means that we should change what we think counts as good acting
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Like I said good acting is a different topic..
^^So who should rate Rahul Bose as an actor...just you and me??..or do we leave it to the majority to decide?
Supporting stars has nothing to do with their acting or success.People love them because.... they love them,there is no rationale..as we can see in the forum.Do fans of stars truly believe that their favorites are the best actors in the world ?Kat has a following like no other(No I am not her fan)
Acting is subjective...
Actors.. like it or not ,have a value attached to them .A Sharukh /Amir/Akshay film arriving causes ripples in more places and ways that can be imagined.Eg.the boutique owner in a mall will be unhappy with a Kay Kay film releasing😆....Katrina Kaif may enthuse him/her a bit... hoping for some extra business!!
WE are the audience,the audience is not some other dumb crowd at a distance.
Any way what is acting in bollywood..does it include dancing-the most important factor-all top stars have aced it -as only the songs and their videos have recall and staying power...does it include physical attractiveness,style,sex appeal,screen presence..Are these some qualities the audience hope to see in their 'actors' over and over again? Konkona or Kay Kay may not fulfill the demands of a large population.
The so called upper class,highly educated..IITs,IIMs..most love the Singh is Kingg variety of films(ask me,I know!).We have seen that with our NRI audiences too..and they are not all cab drivers you know!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@Ajooni
Yes we are the part of the audience and every member of it has a right to their own opinion and each opinion is legitimate. I don't see what being from IITs or IIMs has to do with the kind of films you like. Judging films is a very subjective exercise. And so there can be no absolutes and we can only offer our opinions.

I was just trying to explain my thought process when watching films and perhaps it does not conform to how the majority of the Bollywood audience views films, but my "rating" or criteria for rating is just as legitimate as the majority's.

Honestly I am not even sure I get what you are trying to say.

I guess that is where the problem lies. I rate actors based on whether they exhibit good acting or not. And I thought that is what this thread was about. You seem to have a different interpretation of what the question is.

Edit to add: For me acting is acting - whether it is bollywood or tollywood is pointless. Of course Hindi films involve songs and dancing and I enjoy those sequences when I think they are done well. And it is pleasing to the eyes to watch a good dancer on screen as opposed to a bad one. But I wouldn't call that an essential part of being a "good actor". Also I think Kay Kay Menon is very good looking.😃
Edited by -bluemoon- - 15 years ago

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