Character Assassination of a Mother by Lopa - Page 3

Originally posted by: SP2684

She wasn't 'trying' to say anything - she called him illegitimate - which, according to you, apparently means Baba's father didn't marry his mother because the latter was characterless. While what it actually means is what I said above - a child born out of wedlock. I retierate - your assumption is insulting Baba's mother - not the statement. Definitions do not change as per convenience.

No one is changing any definition. An illegitimate child is one who's born out of wedlock. And it is one undeniable truth that in our society, mothers who give birth to children out of wedlock are not considered respectable and noble.

Now if you wanna say that Lopa meant to say that Baba's mother was actually very respectable but only because of some unfortunate unforeseen circumstances their marriage could not happened then I've nothing to say. Keep maki your imaginary explanatory fiction stories.

Originally posted by: tinaaa

I never used the word wh**e. A wh**e is someone who sleeps with more than one men. A mother of an illegitimate child is one who maybe slept with only one man but give birth to a child out of wedlock.

Originally posted by: SP2684

So a woman who gives birth out of wedlock = a characterless woman?

Yes a woman who give birth a child out of wedlock is not considered a woman of good character in our society and religion.

Originally posted by: nehaaa.14

Maine kab kaha ki you said that? I was talking about this general notion that some people have about illegitimate children and their mothers.

A child out of wedlock is an illegitimate child. That's the only definition for me...doesn't matter how many men his mother slept with.

And, a woman who sleeps with more than one man is NOT a Wh*re. A wh*re is someone who indulge in sexual favours for money.

Yes, I forgot to write the money part.

Originally posted by: tinaaa

No one is changing any definition. An illegitimate child is one who's born out of wedlock. And it is one undeniable truth that in our society, mothers who give birth to children out of wedlock are not considered respectable and noble.

Now if you wanna say that Lopa meant to say that Baba's mother was actually very respectable but only because of some unfortunate unforeseen circumstances their marriage could not happened then I've nothing to say. Keep maki your imaginary explanatory fiction stories.

Originally posted by: tinaaa

Yes a woman who give birth a child out of wedlock is not considered a woman of good character in our society and religion.

Originally posted by: SP2684

@bold - While I give no credence to such blanket 'viewpoints', that is one of the problems with a section of 'our' society - the regressive and vile blaming and s**t shaming of women, while circumstances are ignored, and men get a free pass. You're free to agree with such schools of thought - but do refrain from painting everyone with the same brush. Not all of us agree with this perspective.

@italics - again, you're welcome to assume what Lopa 'meant' according to your own perspective of illegitimacy and mothers, but the fact remains - Lopa called him 'illegitimate'. People use such terms to insult people, and I consider it below the belt because the person in question has nothing to do with their illegitimate status - that you believe this status is a result born solely of the mother's supposedly questionable character, is your point of view on where the blame for illegitimacy lies.

@underlined - actually, I've supported whatever I've stated with definitions and facts. There is fiction in this thread - but it's not coming from me.

You don't think that way, good. But still you're minority and majority thinks that way. And still your high morals and point of views can't change the fact that calling a person illegitimate child is a direct attack to that person's mother as women who give birth to children out of wedlock are not considered women of good character in our society and religion.

Originally posted by: SP2684

How do you speak for all of society? A section of it does, unfortunately, think along these lines, but not all of us are painted with the same brush. And where does religion come into this? Not only do people interpret faith differently, but does all of society share the same religion? These ridiculously misogynist notions are man-made.

I'm not speaking FOR all the society. I'm speaking ABOUT all the society.

Originally posted by: SP2684

@bold - While I give no credence to such blanket 'viewpoints', that is one of the problems with a section of 'our' society - the regressive and vile blaming and s**t shaming of women, while circumstances are ignored, and men get a free pass. You're free to subscribe to such schools of thought - but do refrain from painting everyone with the same brush. Not all of us agree with this perspective.

@italics - again, you're welcome to assume what Lopa 'meant' according to your own perspective of illegitimacy and mothers, but the fact remains - Lopa called him 'illegitimate'. People use such terms to insult people, and I consider it below the belt because the person in question has nothing to do with their illegitimate status - that you believe this status is a result born solely of the mother's supposedly questionable character, is your point of view on where the blame for illegitimacy lies.

@underlined - actually, I've supported whatever I've stated with definitions and facts. There is fiction in this thread - but it's not coming from me. And again - please refrain from telling me what to do. I don't respond well to orders, you see.

No need to give orders at all as I'm seeing that without orders you're doing the same. i.e making imaginary explanatory fiction stories. Few ppl have guts yo say that yes at this point she was wrong too as calling someone illegitimate child is a wrong thing to say.

Originally posted by: tinaaa

You don't think that way, good. But still you're minority and majority thinks that way. And still your high morals and point of views can't change the fact that calling a person illegitimate child is a direct attack to that person's mother as women who give birth to children out of wedlock are not considered women of good character in our society and religion.