isolation & expectations .. copy pasted from my comment elsewhere - Page 3

Originally posted by: kritikakk

obviously I know .. its my thread... my topic was not centered on gautam but on the subject matters as above mentioned ... your replies are more about gautam then the subject

Get clear about ur subject cuz its revolving around one only😆

Originally posted by: anakhanna

Before going out he himself said "Koi chahiye bhi nai". To expect kyu karneka????😒

Originally posted by: -PD-

i seriously didnot understand your comment 😕

When he came out of the cage, he himself said "Koi chahiye bhi nahi". Then y expect other HMs to react or be nice or whatever?? 😕

Khud attitude jhaadneka n then blame others. Mujhe isolate karte hai n blah blah😡

Originally posted by: White-Rose

I dont know why its hard to face isolation in big boss house? Is there anything to play victim card just becoz u r alone in that house? How much time they have to spend there? 3-4 months. Not like they are staying there for some charity, there is a fixed amount for every day. Why do they want strangers to make them feel that they are not alone? In very first matter p3 were standing with him, so how he was alone?

When u r new at any place its not easy to make friends. One should have quality to attract others, make them feel that u deserve their friendship and trust and to be really honest gulati is not friendship material. After second week, he completely lost the faith of few people but still there were 4 more people standing with him. Instead of making his friendship strong he was just showing them boss type attitude, oh i m something and king of our group, started fake romance with sonali when was sure that he does not have any feelings for that girl, misbehaviour with praneet etc. Either he is just psycho person who has no control on his anger or he is just using others to get sympathy.

His apology to karishma was not genuine coz he repeated same thing with Ali. Person who is genuinely sorry wont repeat it again and now calling arya 'kutta'. He is like armman-first abuse, misbahave and cross all limits then touch feet, fold hands, cry and all other nautanki. Next day when u wake up forget everything and u r same abuser. So what we can expect from people living with him? Isolate him is last option they have. Afterall u cant expect from them to tolerate every single shit coming out of his mouth.

Agree p3 have to play their game as well. They have right to change their opinion of gulati and there is limit of everything including friendship. Gulati is playing his game well by getting all attention so why not others?

your first paragraph is exactly my point .. bang on 👏
infact I started this topic because I saw repeatedly other posts on this subject of isolation, I was/am confused because by my observation, gautam had ppl on his side even in first week and till day before epi he still had some hms guving him constant company .. so on what basis are ppl saying he is all alone and isolated! a person can willfully choose to keep away from others & engage in self imposed isolation, but in gautam's case that is not so, he spends his time alone talking to cameras but he also spends time with puneet n pritam, so why are ppl saying he is alone! yeah if puneet & pritam were not there it would make sense to say that! this was why I raised this topic, because obviously my understanding of isolation is very different!

2nd paragraph ... I am yet unsure why gautam's mistakes are overlooked .. I let it be for a while now thinking that maybe its cause others make bigger blunders then he does, but frankly its apparent now he gets an olive branch and automatically any hm who voices concerns against gautam is automatically put in bad books .. this was sole purpose of my thread under expectations, to get a general feel as to how many ppl have thought from the prespective of other hms, and possible reasonings as to why any sane person would keep repeating same defences but to no avail!

unfortunately .. the responses I expected did not come in from point of view of subject initially.. which is ok .. and thank you for your input 😊

I never thought of comparing him to armaan .. maybe because I believe each person is shaped by their own life experiences & personality ... but you have a valid point there, so now the question to be asked is why was armaan not accepted considering the comparision you have made? ??

Gulati is playing his game well by getting all
attention so why not others?

^^^ bang on ... its is acceptable that gautam is playing his game by whichever means he deems right, so why aren't other hm extended the same appreciation for playing their game??
time and again we complain that hms should not engage in moral policing, yet we ourselves give our prespective of right and wrong, judging them on their behaviour, so is it acceptable for us to engage in it simply cause we are the audience and we HAVE to judge them?
what is wrong for us isn't necessarily wrong for the hms, we are free in outside world and only get a birds eye view of happenings in the house, what we see how do we know that actual situation was exactly that presented in the episode ... we also are aware tgat some situation.and arguments happen in actuality over longer periods of time the what is shown to us in edited version, yet how many times do we think about the SITUATION only from all angles!

Originally posted by: ..Mishh007..

You seriously thought the bhakts are gonna see your point?😆

lol ... not really ... I was expecting a reasonable debate about the subject of isolation & expectations from hms, I dont know where I went wrong in my assumption of a constructive debate as we here on forum have had so many posts & threads for such discussions on an intellectual level!

but iv no hard feelings .. to each his own 😊

Originally posted by: angeala95

100% agreed!! I know how being isolated feels!! I knw how it feels to look at a room of people and feeling like u dnt belong there, i know how it feels that u are nt needed ny anybody!! Have gone through this stuff!! But at that time i just had one girl by my side who was nt even a friend of mine!! But just someone who used to sit with me!! We wouldnt talk much but still i felt like she kept me company!!
And do u knw something? It was enough for me to get out of that phase!!
I was also going gautam's way that is being self isolated but then i realized it is only going to make me miserable and hate things!!
Here gautam had 3 friends who supported him all the while!! Sometimes even took his irritatiom and frustrations but if now gautam has chose to look past that and hell bent on turning negative, then no one can help him!!

I relate to you ... I went thru some level of isolation myself when I had a viscious accident and my life literally fell to pieces before my eyes .. at that time I also only had one person who neither sympathised nor smothered me to death, infact he pushed me very hard to move it and reclaim my life, be it moral lectures, taunts, anger, anything he could use to piss me off, he did it ...

so yes I do relate and understand what gautam is going thru ... but I also know it is a temporary thing in the house, he has had alot of support actually from p3 and he is very lucky in that matter! it is very rare to find ppl like pritam & praneet who take taken stand for gautam knowing very well the guy is very unpredictable, and at any moment he can turn & yell at tge very people who are supporting him .. this is downright stupid of gautam, he only sees his prespective but not what his friends have/are doing for him! even real life friends that we grow up with & know for decades, have their limitations, they also will not always stick around especially if they inreturn only get taken forgranted!

Originally posted by: anakhanna

@Kritikkak: Superbb post👏👏👏

N completely correct. He's talking about isolation. He is the one who starts pissing off others. I mean how long will everyone tolerate it?? N now that he knows he's popular, he'll always keep playing the victim card. He keeps saying he's all alone. ALL THE TIME. Even when P3 were with him. When he doesn't respect any of the others, what does he expect from them?? It isn't correct to always keep blaming others.

It's like he is a saint n all others are sinners. Whatever he does is justified, but whatever others do isn't. All the others are doing is avoiding him. N when it comes for punishment, y will Upen punish his friends?? N among the others, Gautam is the only one being sulky n distant all the time. Y blame Upen??

In fact, when Gautam thought he is gonna be the Captain what was his attitude?? He wanted to discpline everyone else n blah blah. Now when he's got a taste of his own medicine he's sad???
And coming to the Captaincy. Well how is it Tanna's fault?? Agreed she tried to influence Pritam. But y did Pritam get influenced?? They were the stronger team. Could've won easily. That just shows they also believed Gautam wasn't fit to be the Captain!

thank you.

how I see it, gautam realised that him being victimised has made him popular, infact even I agree kt went too far with gaali thg, and inturn made him look a victim, which he was!
where gautam went wrong is that he continued to use this 'I am all alone & everbody is ganging up on me' card ... to some extent he was right coz kt group is majority of hms and they did ignore him alltogether, but at same time he had p3 who despite calling him out where he went wrong, but they never abandoned him, they have constantly been taking gautams side even in fights that gautam engaged in but had nothing to do with p3, yet p3 always came to his rescue n faught with otgers for him and even made otheers their enemies in tge process! trust me p3 could have easily told him dekh bhai you always get into fights n we end up getting targetted too along with you, we also are here to play game n not make enemies unnecessarily! but they never did that! despite all this till today gautam n forum members say he is alone., which is misleading really!
even in real world with life long friends, nobody will tolerate being taken forgranted by the person they always side with! this is a reality check gautam needs very badky before its too late, I hope he does not engage in same manner in his real life coz he will go thru alot worst then bb house!

as far as upen or other hms taking their friends sides in terms of rewards or gains ... that is normal ... p3 have also taken gautam's side numerous times even in matters where p3 had nothing to gain but only loose, like iv mentioned above ... so why this expectation that p3 must always side gautam, but other hms are always wrong in maintaining their group togetherness n choosing their friends for benefits even if they arnt deserving ... end of day if gautam had to be in upen's position, he too would pick his friends over who else from other group is more deserving! and tanna falls in same category, she did what she had to to try and get pritam & puneet on favouring upen, there's nothing wrong in it THATS PART OF THE GAME ... she didn't forcefully get them to side upen ... she said her piece n it was up to pritam & puneet to make their own choices! infact some ppl forget nobody can influence another to somethg they dont wanna do .. captaincy task is prime eg that even puneet & pritam for their own reasons believed that gautam isn't ready for captaincy, so they didn't give him full support to win! gosh is that so difficult to understand??
in life also we many times have to make choices not by our personal preference, but by the overall prespective of what would be more suited to the situation!

this is why i say most posts on if make it apparent some ppl are watching gautam & his prespective only, and everybody else automatically get no benefit of doubt if they are saying anything against gautam, be it hms or fellow forum members!

Originally posted by: -PD-

i agree with you... just an example yesterday when Gautam came from cage when he saw everyone are in garden he went and said guys i am back...

can you tell me how many reacted cheerfully or atleast reacted... these small incidents effects for sure

if only one or two persons in the whole house of people talks with you and others ignore you or picsk on you everytime then the person for sure feels bad and feels isolated

the person facing the situation will know the pain not the others

simple question ... we also encounter ppl whom we do not get along with in our daily lives, at work even in family we dont necessarily have the best of relation with everybody ... so how do we deal with it there?
its not possible to always avoid the persons we dont naturally click with, but we still have to get on with it!

same principle

Originally posted by: anakhanna

Before going out he himself said "Koi chahiye bhi nai". To expect kyu karneka????😒

see this is another thing I dont understand ... he knows they will react that way, toh bar bar wahi pe hi kyu ghusta hai ... even he knows it will just irritate them even more ... or is he doing it for that very purpose to irritate them???

I don't understand why Praneet should stick to
Gautam firstly? P3G are just stuck in name sake
group except Gautam rest in the group see
themselves as individuals. Gautam snapped at
Praneet couple of times and that's it...Praneet
don't want any pact further.

exactly!!! there is no p3 group, bb did selective editing and showed their huddling sessions joking around to pass time ... but they (except gautam) have maintain some level of relations with other hms too!


Pritam and Punert accepted the way Gautam is
but every damn housemate has their right to
like or dislike him. In this case Gautam is wrong
too and he is self proclaimed alone...I see still
people around him and talking to him. He just
loves to play " I am victim...I am THE only
positive rest are isolating me with negativity"

even i dont understand why so much expectatiins of praneet or the other ps to always side with gautam ... they have taken his time many times, even at expense of making other hms their enemy in the process... or did ppl forget that here on forum? dont others have right to do their own thing, or does it only matter and is good work done only if they do something that benefits gautam only??

To hell with this attention seeker and he is
getting on my nerves . This guy needs reality
check. What Gautam did when Pritam was
supporting him? He was shouting back at
Pritam... . He don't deserve support any more
like week 1. He is enough evil to rake the whole
house.


like i said p3 have taken gautam's side numerous times n fought with others for HIM .. but gautam has bad habit, that even when they are siding him gautam ussi pe hi chad jaata hai n yells at them ... how long and most importantly WHY should others keep tolerating this, he takes his friends forgranted and they (p3) dont even have the right to get hurt by his behaviour??? areh??? yeh kaha ka insaaf hai???