isolation & expectations .. copy pasted from my comment elsewhere - Page 4

Wow for a self proclaimed neutral party you sure are brow beating Gautam and his actions!!!!!!

Originally posted by: Endurance

Get clear about ur subject cuz its revolving around one only😆

the subject is clear as is the title .. just your opinion is different

Originally posted by: Picasso9

Wow for a self proclaimed neutral party you sure are brow beating Gautam and his actions!!!!!!

According to you there are only two types of isolation. Have you heard of varying degrees of isolation? What about still feeling isolated even though you may have a few 'friends' around you? What about the fact that Gautam has also overlooked acute rudeness in some of his so called friends because he might not want 'self imposed isolation' as you so term it. It's not black and white and neither does it mean that majority is right. Don't bullies normally travel in packs?

Today Diandra made a point that could not be argued for the moment. She said , 'it's my choice'. Tomorrow if Gautam, is aggressive, or nominates her or refuses to vote for her for captain, it's his choice!!! But they will flip it and say he's not a team player. Why should he conform to their idea of what's right or wrong or what's appropriate or not. Has he broken property in the house? Has he physically harmed them? Has he refused them food? But wait, his personality irks them!!!! So many people for different walks of life suddenly found common ground where they all hate Gautam's personality. How coincidental!!!

I wonder why the stupid audience doesn't see that??? 😕 Oh and as for sadhu Praneet, his bipolar behavior is so admirable. Who can blame him for his outbursts. Poor thing is under so much stress and strain from being Gautam's friend that he had to tear himself away in order to save his sanity. Oh woe is him.😕😭

Show us both point of views and than claim neutrality.

how is it brow beating gautam only? have I not taken his side n defense too? for that matter, I said I have no faves and neither hate any of them, yet I maintained a clear stand point view of other hms from topic itself .. did you expect I was going to talk only from gautam's prespective, or did you not see I have said many times that I do not understand this or that point of view from gautam's side and have ended with that question leaving it open to explanations from others!

you can see it any which way you please!

the type of isolation I raised is from general consesus of how forum members have percieved it .. comparative to my view of that word & understanding as well as what has been shown on bb ... if you want or have other aspects to it, I would love to hear it!
gautam or anybody can feel isolated in there head, it is the feeling of being unwanted .. this generally leads the person to completely cut off other ppl .. in gautams situation, ofcourse he can engage in that behaviour which even I mentioned he spends alot of time talking to cameras ... I have not gone onto give my opinion how that comes across! perhaps it is that mental thought of gautam feel left out by others, that makes him so edgy with his own friends n irratic behaviour towards them .. but even gautam knows puneet & pritam accept him the way he is, even they tell him dude this manner or reaction comes across in negative way, gautam himself seeked out praneets company before & his advice and puneet pritams company till day before, so what or why does he go around saying repeatedly he is alone & all gang up on him??
if he truely felt everybody including p3 are against him, why would he constantly sit around with them?

lol ... what diandra said is right ... same thing I have said whom hms chose to side with is their choice, even gautam will probably prefer siding his friends for ewards and benfits in game ... so why is it wrong when other hms do the same??

is it coincidental gautam is common 'enemy' for kt group??? yes ... they all have their own issues with him, they collectively plan to nominate him, its hardly unknown fact!
pritam and puneet made their own decisions not to support with full strength during captaincy task, they even admitted it, and gave their reasonings too... does this automatically mean they have sifted group, or coincidentally have an issue with gautam now like kts group??

does it make you neutal to call praneet bipolar??? if that's the case I find sonali's behaviour hinging on bipolar, and that is my genuine opinion & I have stated many time I dont understand what she is on about majority of time ... are we both neutral here or I am ciming acrossed biased here too??

Originally posted by: kritikakk

how is it brow beating gautam only? have I not taken his side n defense too? for that matter, I said I have no faves and neither hate any of them, yet I maintained a clear stand point view of other hms from topic itself .. did you expect I was going to talk only from gautam's prespective, or did you not see I have said many times that I do not understand this or that point of view from gautam's side and have ended with that question leaving it open to explanations from others!

you can see it any which way you please!

I did not expect you to speak only from Gautam's perspective. I expected clear neutrality since that is what you claimed. Read your responses and see how neutral you appear. Also read your responses and see how 'open' you are to differing viewpoints. Don't think you won't be called out for it. Btw I am NOT neutral. I definitely know whom I do NOT like. So I can perceive it any which way i like thank you very much 😆

I see your point there kritik. But, lately I have realized that it's the bedroom gang who have elevated Gautam to a martyr status by nitpicking on his every little annoyance. Everyone in the house has their own shortcomings but the housemates always highlight only Gautam's faults. Actually, it's not everyone but karishma, diandra, upen and soni who are actively trying to target Gautam. The others , like a pack of dogs are joining in to pick on the easy target.
Gautam is rude and arrogant. But so is Ali. He's a lecherous rogue who feels up girls and made an obscene comment on Sonali. If it was Gautam who made that kehla comment, he would have been crucified by now.
Gautam's body language is weird. But so is diandra's make up and her speech. They are so irritating.
Mini , diandra and Ali have been very rude to praneet many times. But, he was yelling at Gautam bcoz he's an easy target for him.
Even today , during the weekend with Salman, they were just raising hands to please each other and not even sure of wat to do. Herd mentality on play.

Originally posted by: kritikakk

how is it brow beating gautam only? have I not taken his side n defense too? for that matter, I said I have no faves and neither hate any of them, yet I maintained a clear stand point view of other hms from topic itself .. did you expect I was going to talk only from gautam's prespective, or did you not see I have said many times that I do not understand this or that point of view from gautam's side and have ended with that question leaving it open to explanations from others!

you can see it any which way you please!

the type of isolation I raised is from general consesus of how forum members have percieved it .. comparative to my view of that word & understanding as well as what has been shown on bb ... if you want or have other aspects to it, I would love to hear it!
gautam or anybody can feel isolated in there head, it is the feeling of being unwanted .. this generally leads the person to completely cut off other ppl .. in gautams situation, ofcourse he can engage in that behaviour which even I mentioned he spends alot of time talking to cameras ... I have not gone onto give my opinion how that comes across! perhaps it is that mental thought of gautam feel left out by others, that makes him so edgy with his own friends n irratic behaviour towards them .. but even gautam knows puneet & pritam accept him the way he is, even they tell him dude this manner or reaction comes across in negative way, gautam himself seeked out praneets company before & his advice and puneet pritams company till day before, so what or why does he go around saying repeatedly he is alone & all gang up on him??
if he truely felt everybody including p3 are against him, why would he constantly sit around with them?

lol ... what diandra said is right ... same thing I have said whom hms chose to side with is their choice, even gautam will probably prefer siding his friends for ewards and benfits in game ... so why is it wrong when other hms do the same??

is it coincidental gautam is common 'enemy' for kt group??? yes ... they all have their own issues with him, they collectively plan to nominate him, its hardly unknown fact!
pritam and puneet made their own decisions not to support with full strength during captaincy task, they even admitted it, and gave their reasonings too... does this automatically mean they have sifted group, or coincidentally have an issue with gautam now like kts group??

does it make you neutal to call praneet bipolar??? if that's the case I find sonali's behaviour hinging on bipolar, and that is my genuine opinion & I have stated many time I dont understand what she is on about majority of time ... are we both neutral here or I am ciming acrossed biased here too??

I never claimed neutrality. You did. 😆 Read again. Read and understand. Don't come after the fact and defend your TWO reasons for isolation and then claim you're open to other viewpoints on isolation. 😕 I feel like Sallu talking to Youpen about 'tonts'. 🤣

Good luck with your research and analysis.

Originally posted by: Picasso9

I did not expect you to speak only from Gautam's perspective. I expected clear neutrality since that is what you claimed. Read your responses and see how neutral you appear. Also read your responses and see how 'open' you are to differing viewpoints. Don't think you won't be called out for it. Btw I am NOT neutral. I definitely know whom I do NOT like. So I can perceive it any which way i like thank you very much 😆

so not having any favs n not hating anyone means neutral to you, now im confused where in conclusion of my topic i suggested to giving solely my views from all perspectives, i asked a question based on my understanding and seeking clarification on others differring views of same that i have observed here, and iv never said dont call me out anywhere for anythg .. .. so that is that!

by the way .. my full response is edited above, if you choose to have a look!

Sorry darling I am not here to change your mind. What I needed to state, is done. Good luck AGAIN 😆

Originally posted by: kritikakk

your definition of isolation is obviously different ... there are two forms of isolation:
1) self- isolation ... even I have posted many links of uncensored videos where gautam has spent a great deal of time talking to cameras n cameramen ... in one such video he even asked camera men to drop by for coffee n company him even at 4am ... self isolation CANNOT be blamed on others
2) isolate meaning cause (a person or place) to be or remain alone or apart from others. ...
this was initial attempt from kt's gang .. which was floored cause p3 always kept gautam company ... and even now if you are suggesting praneet is isolating gautam, your suggestion is flawed because despite praneet willfully staying away, pritam & puneet are still giving gautam company!

GAUTAM HAS NEVER BEEN TRUELY ISOLATED ... that us the point!

2ndly ... I dont know where you got personal vendetta from? none of us can read praneets mind and intentions!
if you wanna talk about friendships & backstabbing .. it hurts more when the person praneet considered a friend, always sought his company and advice when gautam was slumped off by others ... yet gautam had irrational behaviour towards praneet & pritam on many occassions, he would turn around and yell at his own friends even when they were taking his side ... but haan na, gautam does anythg and its all ok isn't it??

taali ek haath se nahi bajti ... you. easily see 'gautam's pain' ... but what about others? are they not humans?
btw ... praneet was nominated with lame reasons by ali, he took on ali to defend gautam mind you ... what did gautam do? ulta vo praneet pe hi chad gaya, simply coz he told him dont swear & keep calm!

I think alot of ppl saw praneet as the calm one .. and they just like all hms are taking it forgranted that jo chahe kuch bhi kare aur bole praneet ko, but he shldnt give it back ... and that is wrong, everybody has limits of patience and everybody gets angry also!
gautam isnot the only one targetted... due to supporting him, praneet pritam & sonali too were targetted by other group, and it was clear that only happened becos they sided gautam ... but for some odd reason some ppl here only see gautam and what happens to him, they have forgotten that others have gone thru the same by other group too!

if praneet now wants to play for himself and seperate from gautam ... why is everyone making him out to be a villian? by ur own admission its a game and they have to play it themselves!
gautam is NOT the only contender, there are other hms too who are trying hard to stay in the game, they also have trials & tribulations, but nobody talks about that!

thanks for your input though ... I enjoy seeing others reasonings

Bang on 👏 👏 100% agree with you. 👏 👏

Originally posted by: Equine

I see your point there kritik. But, lately I have realized that it's the bedroom gang who have elevated Gautam to a martyr status by nitpicking on his every little annoyance. Everyone in the house has their own shortcomings but the housemates always highlight only Gautam's faults.

thanks for ur response!
if karishma hadn't blown gaali issue up, gautam wouldn't have been catapulted in 1st week in public eye!

Actually, it's not everyone but karishma, diandra, upen and soni who are actively trying to target Gautam. The others , like a pack of dogs are joining in to pick on the easy target.


I agree karishma used gaali issue n tried to make it eomens issue, and others like blind fools followed her! they collectively ganged up against gautam, and he was a victim I agree there ... but they weren't able to completly isolate him, as p3 gave him company at that time n boosted his confidence to fight back n accept & repent for his mistake! so p3 do deserve credit there I reckon

Gautam is rude and arrogant. But so is Ali. He's a lecherous rogue who feels up girls and made an obscene comment on Sonali. If it was Gautam who made that kehla comment, he would have been crucified by now.


I agree gautam is rude in behaviour, but iv never said he is bad at heart, infact iv said on another thread about sonali & gautam, that gautam is abrasive behaved, hyper, and tends to take hus own friends forgranted but he is good at heart!
now sonali ... mygosh ... I dont understand her at all! I was surprised that for a woman whose personal space was violated, she didn't outright slap him (just warned him if you do again il slap u with chapals) .. and she also didn't demand alis eviction, so she basically is ok with bb decision n dsnt feel threatened by him??
like I said I dont understand her really!

Gautam's body language is weird. But so is diandra's make up and her speech. They are so irritating.
diandra I think is trying to go for quirky model look, it dsnt come out looking good on her idk maybe she just isn't carrying it off so well in bb!
gautam iv stated his behaviour above .. I also feel he tends to take his friends forgranted, n has a erratic behaviour that pushes ppl away!


Mini , diandra and Ali have been very rude to praneet many times. But, he was yelling at Gautam bcoz he's an easy target for him.


mini was downright rude to him n praneet too looks fed up of ppl taking him calmness for a ride, he walked off while mini was justifying her behaviour instead of apologising! and praneets outbursts isn't just at gautam, he has yelled at ali n minisha too!

Even today , during the weekend with Salman, they were just raising hands to please each other and not even sure of wat to do. Herd mentality on play.

lol .. im not surprised at wkv ... they all try and act goody two shoes infront of salman, and fall flat in their defences ... they shld try practising a speech before wkv lol