isolation & expectations .. copy pasted from my comment elsewhere

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Posted: 10 years ago
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"However, if you can't talk to someone nicely
then don't talk to them rudely either."


this statement ^^ applies to all equally first & foremost!
2ndly, rudeness isn't just verbal, it can come thru in behaviour as well ... a matter that has been highlighted by alot of hms, not just Gautam!

just like you... I also have no favs, but I dont
hate any of them either .. that's just not my style!

I also believe in giving credit where its deserved ... and my opinion solely, p3 does deserve credit for sticking with gautam during initial week n 1st task fiasco .. I dont know what others definition of 'isolated' is .. but from what iv observed, even though p3 were against Gautam for swearing during task, and they even took a stand that gautam should be punished for it (which was given n gautam accepted as well) .. yet during and even after that event p3 still kept gautam company, they helped him boost his confidence to accept & repent for his mistake, they even took stands for him when kt stretched the matter for weeks ... so you see, gautam was never isolated (in true sense of the word)!
even if just one person sticks to us at that time n gives us company in our misery, that still nullifies anybody saying that person is isolated!

Lastly, this is a game at end of day, friendships are right in its place, but its also a fact these 'friendships' dont mean anything because each is there to further their own stay & win, all hms are doing this ... and it is not necessary for anybody to remain calm & diplomatic with everybody at all times, one can please some of the ppl some of the time, but not all the ppl all the time!

clashes of personalties is normal, and happens btwn ppl of similar personalties also as well as opposing personalties ... so why expect so much just from praneet, pritam, puneet or any other hm??
Aren't they human too??
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Posted: 10 years ago
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for me backstabbing is a big no no...punz and praneet both did it...but punz still is better as he didn't make things miserable for gautam whereas praneet seems to be on some kind of personal vendetta. ...
all of them are there for a game but is it fair to isolate a person who already is a target, plot against ur once upon a time good friend just because u don't want to be nominated...if he didn't have the balls to face nomination shudn't have entered bigboss.

friends doesn't mean following someone like a herd true friend is who knocks sense into u ...knows how to get tht sense inside ur head if u r not ready to listen. may say things or laugh at u behind u but only when its the truth but never hurt u or plot against u . hold her hand and be ur support. if u r doing a mistake and u r not ready to listen then he does the opposite step so tht u are saved which may look like he backstabbed but al the while there was goodness in it for u. when everyone is against u he steps in and cuts ...so far i have seen these only in pritham and a bit in punz


nothing is more imp than character at end of day ppl respect a good character not a prize winner. each one of them when they step out of tht house wud be facing the world again ...they will be living with the tag assigned to them by the public ...can they live with it that they made someone's life so miserable that its taken a toll on tht person' health and all for what money. tht money cud be stolen or lost or spent away in blink of moment...what remains is ur character tht no one can ever take it away from u...

no one is expecting them to be saints...play the game in health way don't become inhuman or characterless


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shinningstar

for me backstabbing is a big no no...punz and praneet both did it...but punz still is better as he didn't make things miserable for gautam whereas praneet seems to be on some kind of personal vendetta. ...

all of them are there for a game but is it fair to isolate a person who already is a target, plot against ur once upon a time good friend just because u don't want to be nominated...if he didn't have the balls to face nomination shudn't have entered bigboss.

friends doesn't mean following someone like a herd true friend is who knocks sense into u ...knows how to get tht sense inside ur head if u r not ready to listen. may say things or laugh at u behind u but only when its the truth but never hurt u or plot against u . hold her hand and be ur support. if u r doing a mistake and u r not ready to listen then he does the opposite step so tht u are saved which may look like he backstabbed but al the while there was goodness in it for u. when everyone is against u he steps in and cuts ...so far i have seen these only in pritham and a bit in punz


nothing is more imp than character at end of day ppl respect a good character not a prize winner. each one of them when they step out of tht house wud be facing the world again ...they will be living with the tag assigned to them by the public ...can they live with it that they made someone's life so miserable that its taken a toll on tht person' health and all for what money. tht money cud be stolen or lost or spent away in blink of moment...what remains is ur character tht no one can ever take it away from u...

no one is expecting them to be saints...play the game in health way don't become inhuman or characterless





your definition of isolation is obviously different ... there are two forms of isolation:
1) self- isolation ... even I have posted many links of uncensored videos where gautam has spent a great deal of time talking to cameras n cameramen ... in one such video he even asked camera men to drop by for coffee n company him even at 4am ... self isolation CANNOT be blamed on others
2) isolate meaning cause (a person or place) to be or remain alone or apart from others. ...
this was initial attempt from kt's gang .. which was floored cause p3 always kept gautam company ... and even now if you are suggesting praneet is isolating gautam, your suggestion is flawed because despite praneet willfully staying away, pritam & puneet are still giving gautam company!

GAUTAM HAS NEVER BEEN TRUELY ISOLATED ... that us the point!

2ndly ... I dont know where you got personal vendetta from? none of us can read praneets mind and intentions!
if you wanna talk about friendships & backstabbing .. it hurts more when the person praneet considered a friend, always sought his company and advice when gautam was slumped off by others ... yet gautam had irrational behaviour towards praneet & pritam on many occassions, he would turn around and yell at his own friends even when they were taking his side ... but haan na, gautam does anythg and its all ok isn't it??

taali ek haath se nahi bajti ... you. easily see 'gautam's pain' ... but what about others? are they not humans?
btw ... praneet was nominated with lame reasons by ali, he took on ali to defend gautam mind you ... what did gautam do? ulta vo praneet pe hi chad gaya, simply coz he told him dont swear & keep calm!

I think alot of ppl saw praneet as the calm one .. and they just like all hms are taking it forgranted that jo chahe kuch bhi kare aur bole praneet ko, but he shldnt give it back ... and that is wrong, everybody has limits of patience and everybody gets angry also!
gautam isnot the only one targetted... due to supporting him, praneet pritam & sonali too were targetted by other group, and it was clear that only happened becos they sided gautam ... but for some odd reason some ppl here only see gautam and what happens to him, they have forgotten that others have gone thru the same by other group too!

if praneet now wants to play for himself and seperate from gautam ... why is everyone making him out to be a villian? by ur own admission its a game and they have to play it themselves!
gautam is NOT the only contender, there are other hms too who are trying hard to stay in the game, they also have trials & tribulations, but nobody talks about that!

thanks for your input though ... I enjoy seeing others reasonings
Edited by kritikakk - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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here gauti is forced into self isolation...praneet can playfor himself but y conspire and laugh at ur friend with his enemies thts where he is getting the bashing ...not for leaving gauti
Edited by shinningstar - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shinningstar

here gauti is forced into self isolation



self-isolation is a CHOICE .. nobody can be forced into it against their freewill
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: kritikakk



self-isolation is a CHOICE .. nobody can be forced into it against their freewill

no its not ...whenever he talk ppl make issues out of it...simple things are blown out of proportion like suku upen arya and even praneet did...making the person feel better be myself for my mind peace
Edited by shinningstar - 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shinningstar

no its not ...whenever he talk ppl make issues out of it...simple things are blown out of proportion like suku upen arya and even praneet did...making the person feel better be myself for my mind peace



he is locked in house, where would he go to be alone??? n despite others making issues, he had p3 from start, then sonali came .. now sonali n praneet left but he still has p2 keeping him company thruout ... so he isn't isolated!

self isolation would be valid if he was evicted and sent to secret room ... he can talk to cameras all he wants there
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Originally posted by: kritikakk



self-isolation is a CHOICE .. nobody can be forced into it against their freewill

No one like SELF ISOLATION whats make u go in that ... thats the problem ...
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Gautam was WRONG ok he said SORRY he touched Karishma's feet what else he can do ??? ppl corneerd him like he murdered someone Man ... Once u start having the feeling that no one understand u then U get SELF ISOLATED ... Yes then u misunderstand things and Gautam mentioned that after Karishma fiasco he feel that ppl are jealous of his happiness...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: kritikakk



he is locked in house, where would he go to be alone??? n despite others making issues, he had p3 from start, then sonali came .. now sonali n praneet left but he still has p2 keeping him company thruout ... so he isn't isolated!

self isolation would be valid if he was evicted and sent to secret room ... he can talk to cameras all he wants there

one cannot live by talking to only 2 ppl in the house...they don't sit the whole day with him...he cannot interact with anyone else...when they have food they don't call him when he comes they all leave...when he talks they make faces or don't respond...wait for him to leave and then laugh and bitch abt him...when food is served to him the attitude is what we won' even have with our servants ( saw ibn live feed how di gave him food)...he tried and now he stopped ...its matter of self respect also...he cannot be treated like a doormat all the time...it is suffocating and its amazing how he is holding up. plus i have observed tht now they have their melas near punz and pritham ignoring him totally from their conversations so that even they don't get chance to speak to him
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