My final conclusion - I think Sonali could be lying

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I have watched full episode now

1- First nothing was shown so we all should shut up and stop putting our own thoughts on what happened under blanket. At best we don't know

2- There was no camera inside the blanket

3- If we can trust a woman then we can trust a man too. Unless you believe in gender discrimination

4- If Ali is a tapori lets assume then Sonali has been doing dirty things with Upen and Gautam as well. If anything sonali has worst background in this show. Why has minisiha/karishma not involved in such flirting etc



5- Now come to incident

6- All were laughing, enjoying when Ali probably touched her knee. He said several times "ghutna ghutna" and initially Upen said fine but dont do it. Even Sonali said i m not comfortable with you

7- He said I will never do a bad thing to you. He promised on God.

8- When Upen said apologize he did several times

9- If anything he was taken a back and got defensive

10- Sonali went somewhere and then started it again

Considering nothing was shown, considering we dont know what happened I am not ready to believe Sonali. She has a grudge and she was nominated. She was very angry after nominations and remember Gautam has been asking her to go after Ali.

At very least we should be neutral about it. It is possible there was nothing sexual in touching a ghutna...

No need to be ashamed of Ali if you are his fan. On this evidence I wont blame him.

If you want to abuse me go ahead but I am talking on logic. I am surprised that forum members have exaggerated it a lot. Its a shame because everyone has respect and just bc a girl complained does not mean we go into an automatic mode of condemning.

Disclaimer: And no person should accuse me of disrespecting woman. If I felt 1 percent that this Ali is a disgusting person who feels women up believe me I would have made an example oft this clown like no one on this forum could have done.

However I am not getting that vibes from him

Note: Burden of Proof

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u guys are treating this incident as a snapshot. this did not happen in vacuum

the fact that ali, sonali and upen were in bed means they are close enough to share a bed, talk and have fun

in this friendly environment he could touch her..like many times my friends come and give me a shoulder massage type stuff. or pat on the back

all i am saying even that is wrong if sonali says and then ali does it again

However

1- this has nothing to do with consent. as they are not strangers

2- and since we dont know full evidence and we dont trust both lets not make it sexual


Tuesday update


Sonali continued her acting and Ali must have apologized a million times.

No one cared that much nor any complain was made to BB. Pritam and Gautam the two of the ugliest faces after sushant made an issue. They also gossiped about Ali but Ali came in and preetam was caught with his pants down

Aarya said I know Ali and he is cleanest guy.

Why did BB punish? I am guessing that BB knows Sonali is a drama queen and she could have sued colors tv if she was to exit. Therefore BB itself took the decision to prevent such a fiasco

Vultures were then clapping as they just won the best actor as oscars

anyway I am concluding this as Sonali and Prita/Gautam drama to take revenge against Ali.

Ali took it like man.

Thanks for all your input. Lets move on

I am requesting mods to close it
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Posted: 10 years ago
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and then there is Ali who actually said in the kitchen he did do it but did it jokingly...So there goes ur conclusion of Sonali lying
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: GkKgKklover

and then there is Ali who actually said in the kitchen he did do it but did it jokingly...So there goes ur conclusion of Sonali lying


Ali said I touched ghutna..stop spinning
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Posted: 10 years ago
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And all I am asking is to be neutral about it. Bc there is lack of evidence
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: hippopotamus


Ali said I touched ghutna..stop spinning


so he did touch naa...why did he???? and under the blanket??? don't tell me because Sonali was inviting..that is just a ridiculous reasoning...just because she was being over-friendly with Upen and Gautam, that doesn't give Ali the right to do so..and doesn't justify his action either
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: hippopotamus

And all I am asking is to be neutral about it. Bc there is lack of evidence

You are trying to bump your thread with flawed logic.. so hope no one else posts..
no man can touch a woman without her permission by putting the hand under a blanket and say i am doing what someone else was doing... and as previous poster said.. ali said he did it and in mazak...
no one needs viewers conclusions on this.. if the girl who has been touched feels its inappropriate under a blanket and outside a task.. it is so... done done done...move on... sadly he wasnt evicted for sexual harrassment... and only punished with useless stuff...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hippo is right. Sonali being a girl, her statement is half valid. She must bring four male as witness to prove her point. Other wise, Ali and Hippo's claim are true!!
BB must follow Hippo's rule 😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: GkKgKklover


so he did touch naa...why did he???? and under the blanket??? don't tell me because Sonali was inviting..that is just a ridiculous reasoning...just because she was being over-friendly with Upen and Gautam, that doesn't give Ali the right to do so..and doesn't justify his action either


He admitted to touching then and there. It is our dirty mind that we are seeing touching ghutna as something sexual

It is sonali who is saying weird way

Fact is it was not feeling up as claimed by members here

Ghutna is not sexual..

Yes his fault is he should not have done that. She doesnt like him. Why is he getting free? however to make it sexual is our own dirty mind...as from evidence there is nothing to support sonali claim or even ali claim

be neutral on this
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I think this could be of some help to your post:


logic
ljik/
noun
  1. reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.
    "experience is a better guide to this than deductive logic"
    synonyms:reasoning, line of reasoning, rationale, argument, argumentation
    "the logic of their argument"
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: KJasoosChulbulP

You are trying to bump your thread with flawed logic.. so hope no one else posts..
no man can touch a woman without her permission by putting the hand under a blanket and say i am doing what someone else was doing... and as previous poster said.. ali said he did it and in mazak...
no one needs viewers conclusions on this.. if the girl who has been touched feels its inappropriate under a blanket and outside a task.. it is so... done done done...move on... sadly he wasnt evicted for sexual harrassment... and only punished with useless stuff...


shut up and speak only logic to me...and i dont know what ur talking about bump

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