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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: loveandhope9204

Raqesh had told Nishant on the night after their fight that he is done with Shamita and wants to exit from the game show. He told Nishant & Neha, that while he may like Shamita but admitted that Shamita & him are not good for each other. He said, that Shamita carries a lot of baggage and he feels suffocated with her controlling, dominating nature and identified her emotional manipulation, as 'emotional attyachar'. So he is able to see through her now. He's even understood that she frequently complains / cribs a lot and her past relationships did not work out because of her controlling nature. That her Exes had the VERY same problem with her.

Raqesh's problem was that Shamita is not willing to work on it or tone it down, but is adamantly stuck to 'This is who I am. I have my baggage. This is my journey. This is what I'll do'.

But when it comes to Raqesh... Shamita wants Raqesh to change who HE IS, for their connection. He's a social person, who likes talking / bonding with others. He does not like cold wars, does not like ignoring people, he cannot be black & white with anyone (especially in a house like this). She wants him to obey her a 100% and subdue himself to her authority. I am happy Raqesh is finally standing up to her, because that is not in his nature and he cannot compromise who he is, for a connection with her. She should let him be and trust him. If she's got such insecurity and trust issues, and is as black and white - then she's got to work on her self and humble herself enough to introspect how it's coming across.

If she cannot do that - she will continue making him feel suffocated. This reminds me of sand. The tighter you try to hold sand in your hand, the more it slips away from your hand. The same goes for relationships. You cannot control, dominate, hold someone so tight to the extent they feel choked or suffocate. Raqesh clearly is not that person. So what it comes across to me is - they're different individuals and they're not compatible.

It is perfectly okay to like / care for someone or even be attracted to them. But that doesn't mean, they're the best person for you. I have been attracted to many guys in my life, that I knew weren't the best for me. They were not compatible with me, wouldn't respect or allow me to be myself. So love them from a distance! And lead a happy, dignified life with someone else who loves you and lets you be yourself.

P.S He even told Nishant, that he can be friends with her outside, but doesn't see himself being in a romantic connection with her. Told Neha this as well, that he comes with baggage & has come out of a relationship that was similar and doesn't want to walk into the same thing. I don't see them being together outside for long, even if they decide to give it a try. Raqesh would have to lose himself, to be with her. And that's a toxic and unhealthy relationship right there.


Sir With due regards to your opinion and Raqesh, I watched yesterday live feed, and saw shamita was clearly asking him whether this is more than frienship or not. And raqesh looked stunned. Jaise I don't know what you are talking about. I felt bad at shamita Condition where she was crying that after covid and her father's passing, she is looking to settle down. And this Raqesh was just not interested in talking anything else. She was saying I admit I am expecting from my closed people. I was amazed from reading your comment that he has that opinion that her relationship doesn't work because of dominating nature. I found Raqesh totally spineless who will kiss , hug a girl like girlfriend only and then walk away just like that. If in this way he treat every friend of his, then why he has not till date kiss hug other female friends in BB. He was telling Shamita that because of this dominating nature she is single. I would say because of Raqesh playboy nature, he is a divorcee. Shamita should walk over this person who treat women just as doormat, consider them as toy just to play and throw.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dokudu_1


Sir With due regards to your opinion and Raqesh, I watched yesterday live feed, and saw shamita was clearly asking him whether this is more than frienship or not. And raqesh looked stunned. Jaise I don't know what you are talking about. I felt bad at shamita Condition where she was crying that after covid and her father's passing, she is looking to settle down. And this Raqesh was just not interested in talking anything else. She was saying I admit I am expecting from my closed people. I was amazed from reading your comment that he has that opinion that her relationship doesn't work because of dominating nature. I found Raqesh totally spineless who will kiss , hug a girl like girlfriend only and then walk away just like that. If in this way he treat every friend of his, then why he has not till date kiss hug other female friends in BB. He was telling Shamita that because of this dominating nature she is single. I would say because of Raqesh playboy nature, he is a divorcee. Shamita should walk over this person who treat women just as doormat, consider them as toy just to play and throw.


I get your point. But firstly, whether or not he was truly interested in her that way - is besides the point. NOBODY or no sane Man - can live or be in a relationship with a woman like that, that's unwilling to be understanding, flexible or reasonable. She's obstinate with what she wants, and she manipulates him with words. She projects on to him (projection is a narcissistic trait), what she herself isn't doing. Example: She told Raqesh yesterday, that she can't always make the adjustments but he has to meet her mid-way. The truth is, Raqesh is the one that's come out looking like a fool, a doormat. He lost himself to fit into the 'cocoon' with Shamita. He stopped talking to Divya after week 1 and worked hard on his connection with Shamita.


Secondly, I feel because he doesn't understand the game so much, or doesn't have the mindset for such a show, he's gotten too confused about the concept of connections. Had he watched such shows and how people are in such shows, he would've been smart enough to be dignified, kept a distance like how Karan-Riddhima, Divya-Zeeshan did. They were partners, had mutual respect - but they didn't cross the boundaries. Raqesh was foolish and immature to go hugging her, kissing her and trying to please her. I think Raqesh is spineless and is ALL about people pleasing and looking 'good' infront of people. So after he got bashed by Karan Johar & Shamita in the first weekend ka vaar, he wanted to set his image right with them and tried to get close to Shamita and flirt with her etc. He was foolish.


Thirdly, I feel he did develop a crush or was infatuated with Shamita after Week1. Why? I mentioned that Raqesh is ALL about the 'image' and how someone / something looks outside, or how well someone's recalled by the likes of Karan Johar and other influential people. Shamita was obviously praised, called 'classy', 'darling' etc by Karan Johar. So he wanted to associated with the 'classier lot' and play it safe, because with Shamita on his side, he won't get bashed. Divya on the other hand, was spoken so badly of for no reason and insulted, so he dropped her like a hot potato. Remember, Raqesh is all about the image. I just had this feeling about him. So because of such a good image of Shamita - that was painted by Karan Johar..Raqesh got infatuated with the 'idea' of Shamita. (Infact was enamored with her image) - but NOT with the person. It takes time to get to know someone as a 'person' and he's gotten to know her as a person now and feels she's too difficult to be with. Also, Infatuation often happens fast, but doesn't last long! Infatuation is temporary, intense...but very very fleeting in nature. He cares for her, but isn't in love with her.


But after the infatuation wore down and Shamita's true nature and face got exposed in front of Raqesh, he is having his doubts. He realized she controlled him a lot and he was getting suffocated. See, when we're infatuated with someone, everything seems amazing - even if they treat you like shit. But slowly, as you live with a person, such traits that Shamita has - will start pricking you bad. She carries a LOT of toxic baggage - which Raqesh doesn't want to deal with. He's a divorcee, carries his own baggage & doesn't want to be with someone this toxic - doesn't balance out very well. She's probably quite clear, that she wants to marry & have kids (I read that somewhere & doesn't want just a fling with Raqesh). She's trying her best to find someone, who'll adhere to who she is. She's trying to get Raqesh to see the same potential - because she's been single for long and she knows, it's not easy for her to find someone that can put up with her. Raqesh put up with her while he was infatuated for two weeks, now he's realizing he can't do it. Reality is setting in and he feels suffocated and constantly picked at (about Divya, about the letters later).


Lastly, I feel Raqesh does get physically close and does not know his boundaries with people he gets too comfortable with. No, Shamita is not the only person he got that close with. He did that with Neha too. Have a look at the pics below. I also saw another clip on twitter, where Neha was sitting on Raqesh's lap. So he does that with whoever he's comfortable with - it's not required, it can be misleading and it's not right. Riddhima and Divya are his friends, but they were dignified enough to not allow him to get that close.





Edited by loveandhope9204 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: loveandhope9204


I get your point. But firstly, whether or not he was truly interested in her that way - is besides the point. NOBODY or no sane Man - can live or be in a relationship with a woman like that, that's unwilling to be understanding, flexible or reasonable. She's obstinate with what she wants, and she manipulates him with words. She projects on to him (projection is a narcissistic trait), what she herself isn't doing. Example: She told Raqesh yesterday, that she can't always make the adjustments but he has to meet her mid-way. The truth is, Raqesh is the one that's come out looking like a fool, a doormat. He lost himself to fit into the 'cocoon' with Shamita. He stopped talking to Divya after week 1 and worked hard on his connection with Shamita.


Secondly, I feel because he doesn't understand the game so much, or doesn't have the mindset for such a show, he's gotten too confused about the concept of connections. Had he watched such shows and how people are in such shows, he would've been smart enough to be dignified, kept a distance like how Karan-Riddhima, Divya-Zeeshan did. They were partners, had mutual respect - but they didn't cross the boundaries. Raqesh was foolish and immature to go hugging her, kissing her and trying to please her. I think Raqesh is spineless and is ALL about people pleasing and looking 'good' infront of people. So after he got bashed by Karan Johar & Shamita in the first weekend ka vaar, he wanted to set his image right with them and tried to get close to Shamita and flirt with her etc. He was foolish.


Thirdly, I feel he did develop a crush or was infatuated with Shamita after Week1. Why? I mentioned that Raqesh is ALL about the 'image' and how someone / something looks outside, or how well someone's recalled by the likes of Karan Johar and other influential people. Shamita was obviously praised, called 'classy', 'darling' etc by Karan Johar. So he wanted to associated with the 'classier lot' and play it safe, because with Shamita on his side, he won't get bashed. Divya on the other hand, was spoken so badly of for no reason and insulted, so he dropped her like a hot potato. Remember, Raqesh is all about the image. I just had this feeling about him. So because of such a good image of Shamita - that was painted by Karan Johar..Raqesh got infatuated with the 'idea' of Shamita. (Infact was enamored with her image) - but NOT with the person. It takes time to get to know someone as a 'person' and he's gotten to know her as a person now and feels she's too difficult to be with. Also, Infatuation often happens fast, but doesn't last long! Infatuation is temporary, intense...but very very fleeting in nature. He cares for her, but isn't in love with her.


But after the infatuation wore down and Shamita's true nature and face got exposed in front of Raqesh, he is having his doubts. He realized she controlled him a lot and he was getting suffocated. See, when we're infatuated with someone, everything seems amazing - even if they treat you like shit. But slowly, as you live with a person, such traits that Shamita has - will start pricking you bad. She carries a LOT of toxic baggage - which Raqesh doesn't want to deal with. He's a divorcee, carries his own baggage & doesn't want to be with someone this toxic - doesn't balance out very well. She's probably quite clear, that she wants to marry & have kids (I read that somewhere & doesn't want just a fling with Raqesh). She's trying her best to find someone, who'll adhere to who she is. She's trying to get Raqesh to see the same potential - because she's been single for long and she knows, it's not easy for her to find someone that can put up with her. Raqesh put up with her while he was infatuated for two weeks, now he's realizing he can't do it. Reality is setting in and he feels suffocated and constantly picked at (about Divya, about the letters later).


Lastly, I feel Raqesh does get physically close and does not know his boundaries with people he gets too comfortable with. No, Shamita is not the only person he got that close with. He did that with Neha too. Have a look at the pics below. I also saw another clip on twitter, where Neha was sitting on Raqesh's lap. So he does that with whoever he's comfortable with - it's not required, it can be misleading and it's not right. Riddhima and Divya are his friends, but they were dignified enough to not allow him to get that close.






Itna gussa kyun shamita ke upar. Aisa kya kiya usne🤪

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dokudu_1


Itna gussa kyun shamita ke upar. Aisa kya kiya usne🤪


It's quite obvious from what I've written so far - on why I don't like her. Not too hard to figure out at all.

Shamita = Toxic, Emotionally Manipulative, Controlling, Big Gaslighter, Stubborn, Entitled, Arrogant.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I think Shamita actually genuinely likes him but I have a feeling Raqesh is just using her for the game. He knows it’s in his benefit to be on her side.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Shamita has definitely fallen for him.

But Raqesh is a confused soul who I feel doesn’t realise he is leading her on in some ways.

Like yesterdays’s live feed convo he told her in his head it was finished for him that night they had the fight. Shamita although hurt said ok for me too so let’s just put a stop to it here and play how we used to before. Then 2 minutes later he’s like no I wanna keep things open 🤬

Like wtf???

U wanted an out cos u felt she controlled you she’s said ok and then u still won’t let it go? After that part in their convo my mind kinda flipped against him. Now he is the villain if something were to go wrong and she ends up having a major breakdown, as it is she has triggers and anxiety issues due to past failed relationships.


But last two days she has been a lot more chilled out and getting long and participating in the house, it’s best she sticks to that.


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