Bars, Provocation and Rising Agents - Page 3

His tamtrum and agression is being justified by saying he is being "real",........ in that case he should not be praised but instead needs help

Originally posted by: BBfan24x7

Loved your analogy!

BUT

It's all bs, he's the one who starts it lol my friend and I made it a point to always notice who starts the fights ever since he said that he only 'reacts' to stuff and is being 'poked' all the time.

Well, HE'S the one who pokes first but in a very subtle way which makes Asim (or any other anti-Shukla person) seem like they're the ones to start the fight.

It's like a pre-poke poke but still the first poke lol

(I hope this makes sense to everyone 😆)

Agreed. I’m not gonna say that no one else pokes, or hasn’t been aggressive - they do and have. But the subtle poking that Asim is accused of - from where I’m watching, Shukla’s got that down to a T. And he’s also very good at the in your face poking. But kya hain ke this season - his poking is termed entertainment, while others even breathing at a depth unacceptable by Shuklapur standards is apparently poking deserving of Shukla’s filth reactions.

Loved reading your post!

It boggles my mind that there are people who are taking the statement at face value and celebrating it as a witty one-liner. Surprisingly Shukla has been good at those, but unsurprisingly almost all his arrogant comments are contradictory or mocking in nature.

How does 'raising a bar' become the justification for his actions? And the way he was gloating while saying this to Salman and few of the guests🤦‍♀️. Very intelligent indeed.

This hero worship of Shukla really gets on my nerves. We have been conditioned in a way that makes us look for these glorious characters in every situation. And with the content we consume, through tv and books, makes it easy to overlook reckless and insensitive actions among some misunderstood men because a redemption arc is bound to be there.

But I don't see anything like that in Shukla. He was arrogant, crass, ill mannered, short-tempered and downright vile while addressing people, in the beginning. And he is still the same! Where is the arc?

In fact where is the bar? Didn't he point to all the HMs and say 'Mujhe tumse farak nahi padta'? Then why is he getting affected by the same people?

The girl he keeps fondling is the one who is at the receiving end of his verbal abuse. Same for the ex he worked with and a previously rumoured Gf in the house. But there are still some who see him as the real hero.

Had a little sentimental or romantic background music made good people, then everyone from Sanjay Dutt to Salman Khan would have featured on the list.

Originally posted by: cory

I mentioned this too, his raising the bar quote is just plain pathetic and absurd for a guy his age, i mean how can he even think like that how does his mind work, he stoops so low to win some petty stupid self created competition to prove how hard he is, this is what we used to do in highschool, he can't offer anything else no words of wisdom good advice intelligence, knowledge being a senior, that's cuz he has nothing to give he's an empty human being, thats why all he can do is give bare basic abuse and violence like a primitive animal. And irony is that he couldn't raise any bar but cracked under pressure always and even exploded in the CR. So much for "bar raising" bol bachchan hai aur kuch nahi

Absolutely. The immaturity and constant “competition” mode is so juvenile and tiresome. The guy’s dominant mode is being petty - and that is utterly ridiculous at age 40.

@bold - 😆 😆. Halka sa kuch hua nahi and vibrate karne lagta hain - the entire purpose of this show is the pressure of being locked up with different personalities - and yeh maha purush aaram ka season katke whines about wanting to quit cos he can’t take “poking”.

And the others there take his shit every single day, get bashed and humiliated on weekends, get blamed continuously, rightfully and falsely, have the game played against them by BB themselves, while this one enjoys whitewashing and praise. And yeh bar raise karega? Lol - he’s not even in the league when it comes to tolerance and maturity. He’s a man-child.

Originally posted by: SP2684

You are right - I didn’t do my homework. I have been “exposed” now 😭

I feel terrible for not giving credit where credit is due. I even forgot to give Shukla credit for raising the “whining and quitting” bar - you know with his CR cry fest. Oh no - do you think my visa to Shuklapur is going to be revoked? I hear Mahira is the new Head of Immigration 😆

But jokes apart - it cracks me up when people even attempt to argue that this season isn’t ridiculously biased and literally sold to Shukla. When not just him, but his sycophants enjoy the fruits of whatever deal he’s got written in his contract. The same PaHira that were humiliated for non-issues are now VIPs on the weekend. That’s some next level pull yaar - maan na padega 👏

But Pahira have also become almost unrecognizable in their obnoxiousness - migrating to Shuklapur may have been smart from a longevity in the show perspective, but personality-wise? Down in the dumps.

@Bold - 😆

Well you made your points very well. True to a lawyer. It's just they all fall flat in front of Shukla's aura. Sorry if I came about kinda rude and obnoxious in my previous post. I was just all amped up having visited the mall, and Mahira's aatma had taken over me for a while. Apologies for the same. (But seriously, I was joking)

All jokes apart, he also kinda raised the bar for baisedness as well. Who would've have thunk...it would go to this level. And each WKW we are left hoping aaj to insaaf hoga, aaj toh insaaf hoga. Tareek pe tareek, tareek pe tareek hogayi...but Insaaf ki abhi tak durr dure tak koi jhalak nahi dikhayi di.

Pahira managed the unimaginable for me. That now I don't care about Shukla anymore, have become quite numb to all his shit. And because it's obvious he is gonna win. But I'm desparately waiting for Pahira's exit. Especially Mahira's. But going by the season I know BB is yet again going to disappoint.

But seriously SP, this 'bar' retort has become his one line justification for all the shit he has done the enitre season.

Originally posted by: SP2684

Agreed. I’m not gonna say that no one else pokes, or hasn’t been aggressive - they do and have. But the subtle poking that Asim is accused of - from where I’m watching, Shukla’s got that down to a T. And he’s also very good at the in your face poking. But kya hain ke this season - his poking is termed entertainment, while others even breathing at a depth unacceptable by Shuklapur standards is apparently poking deserving of Shukla’s filth reactions.

That's him doing 'comedy'. Oh look Sidharth is teasing Asim, he's SO funny and not aggressive at all. It's Asim's fault for bringing out Sid's aggressive side by not taking things more 'positively'.

Wow SP you are on a bashing spree, good going

Along with that the absurd delusion of playing alone

When he fights his doormats stand beside him and pay the poking game with him.

He desperately needs his doormats and Guru so much that he moves mountains for them, even sacrifices his bed buddy Sana who he apparently is head over heels in "love" with, he then proceeds to say I am akela

kahe ka akela, har ladai mein isko apne chele aur Guru chahiye

He is so delusional that for him even looking at him is poking, then all his actions can be justified with such a thought.

But when he does it, it becomes nok jhok and funny

worst is that the channel encouraged and defended it with whitewashing done every WKV by a lame host who does not watch any of the episodes and just does it for money.

Finally SPji ne thread bana hi diya

Shukla ke liye apni parampara tod di 🤓

Originally posted by: Nachiketj

Finally SPji ne thread bana hi diya

Shukla ke liye apni parampara tod di 🤓

Shukla ke jabardast aura ne SP ka thread vrat tudwa diya. Aakhir majboor hi kardiya SP ko thread banane mai.

Originally posted by: SP2684

I don’t normally make threads, so apologies in advance for any glaring (or not so glaring) faux pas.

So Shukla’s fave explanation for his atrocious behaviour, which includes verbal abuse, threats of violence, actual violence, invasions of personal space, actually abusing people’s families (not simply going on them), bullying, s**t shaming, and the like to give a rough picture - is as follows (in as many words):

“If someone sets the bar for good, I raise it for good, if someone sets the bar for bad, I raise it for worse”

Ok - let’s look at the second part of that very intelligent statement - I.e., the raising the bar for the worse.

Apparently - according to the Constitution and Manual of Existence of the great region of Shuklapur - the above is simply Shukla’s very sophisticated way of justifying his behaviour as always being in “reaction” - and never “action”.

And reactions come as a result of the oft used and abused term - Provocation. But erm - even a halka sa hawa ka jhonka provokes this hilti dulti vibrations ki dukaan. Toh erm - the bar? 🤔 Ah - it’s set VERY low - in the minus actually, given facial expressions, tones of voice, simply Shukla’s name being mentioned, a friend disagreeing with Shukla’s decrees or even simply voicing an alternative opinion - Bechara Shukla - all of this provokes him. And in his world - both warrants and justifies threats of violence, actual violence, and statements like “tere baap ki galti tera bhai and tu”. Sigh.

But one wonders - if the above provokes Shukla to “react” so atrociously, what of the others? I mean - if Shukla only reacts, and never acts - what are the following:

- Shukla’s nasty smirks and chudail laughter, especially when others are being humiliated, bashed, and having their personal lives ripped apart?

- Shukla’s way of talking to and about people - as though they’re specks of dirt - friends or foes - putting people down and demeaning them even in benign conversations.

- S**t shaming and character trashing - whether it’s an ex or a current love interest in an equation he refuses to credit or name. And this despite being fully party to said equations, but having no accountability for his own part in it.

- Shukla’s entertaining harassment flirting - despite women telling him repeatedly to back the hell off.

- Bullying and mocking people along with his jhund of sycophants - jab dekho - especially people like Vishal, who Shukla clearly thinks is beneath him.

I could go on, but essay already kaafi lamba hota jaa raha hain - I’ll let others add what they feel I’ve missed - please feel free. All of the above = actions, but na, others do not get provoked to Shukla’s version of “reaction”. Wonder what that says about the lovely Shukla.

And the first part of the intelligent statement - I.e., that if someone sets the bar for good, Shukla raises it for good. Erm - 🤣

There are people in that house who are hardworking and fair - how again, did the aalsi magarmach raise that bar? There are people there that respect the basic individuality of other people, their capabilities and opinions - how again, did “apna dimaag mat chalao” raise that bar? There are people there that accept that they make mistakes and show remorse. How again, or rather when - has Shukla even met that bar, let alone raise it? There are people there that have, despite the craziness of that house, developed, maintained and even survived wonderful, respect-filled friendships and equations - lol, Shukla wouldn’t know friendship if it hit him in the face - so again, the bar?

And most importantly - there are those there that have survived a difficult journey full of accountability, challenge and humiliation - while Shukla has enjoyed his privileged and whitewashed farce. And despite that - cracked in the CR with his trusty violence threats and quitting whining in tow. Raised the bar indeed.

Hmm - again, I could go on, but rehne dete hain. Point is - there isn’t a single bar set for good that Shukla has even consistently met, let alone raised.

So you see - the intelligent statement, is actually a load of hogwash. But as a result of BB’s “imaandaari” this season, it too receives a whitewashed seat on the pedestal - same as its spouter Shukla does. All Shukla does deserve credit for is setting a new bar for the worst.

Word!! 👏