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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@aditi Ashwin is the key, that much I know. How, why, when pata nahi. All except Ayan was a comedy. Ayan's pain was real and raw. And he should have been given screen space as it was really good to watch Sumit performance also. Dont know more than KT as Arjun I had ended by liking Sumit as Ayan.

Coming to Maya she has to lose, she has to lose this battle that I know. As she has to be a condemned woman. Because she has to realize the power within, her Ganesha for that loss is necessary, where she cannot do anything.

Also aditi we need to know show is not exploring black and white per se. It is exploring hypocrisy and mostly Maya the concept, where only one is bad and mad, others are all good. Or it seems that way. But it is not.

I cannot connect to Saajun at all. The maximum I can give them is marriage of convenience that is it. Soul mates, they dont belong to that category at all.

Coming to Arjun he is self contradictory. He says one thing in one scene and says something else in other scene. He is the most confused person in the show who is moving with both women. Atleast Ashwin didnt give any holy name to having a mistress. He was publicly bad. That's why I love him too.

Also aditi it is not about loving 2 people. It can happen. A person can love 2 people at the same time. We did had more than wife concept movies or one wife, another lover type movies. Both men and women had been in protoganist in these movies. Malayalam movie Meghamalhar dealt with such a sensitive topic and even Mr and Mrs Iyer had such under tones though not explicit. But you need to present such things with sensitivity. What Arjun has done is crap, utter crap of mixing love and friendship. Ayan told his big brother dont mix things and you wont have both. It's a fact.

@aditi Kuch Kuch hota was crap in its own way, but like you said it was after 8 years of Tina's death, Rahul sees Anjali and feels for her. He didnt immediately rushed to Anjali when Tina died. He was a happy father I would say with his bundle of joy.

Originally posted by: manya_roy

@shruti It would be nice if Maya gets convicted for her crimes, but dont you feel that there is something hidden in all this. I mean this is Maya, and all this shouldn't have been so easy and definitely not like this.
I don't think Maya would be able to counter Jhanvi, but I am doubtful, is Maya even planning to counter Jhanvi?

I have a feeling that Maya has once again started doing the future planning. I have said it earlier as well, Maya herself gave Arjun clues regarding Saanjh, she may have planned all this in advance .
I don't know if she really is paranoid or just acting, because Maya getting cornered is a far fetched dream specially when we have 1 more month of the show to go.

Or maybe they will send Maya to jail for sometime so that Jenny can shoot for her upcoming show.

Even I was feeling the same. Maya giving clues to Duffer gang looked weird. Saanjhs secret code which duffer could decipher but Maya never noticed , looked so silly. Either they have done this intentionally , this all of a sudden moving focus to Saajun crap might be Jen has to shoot Promos & all for her new show , so they will be showing less of her or they might show it was all Maya's plan later on. No one wants to believe but I still have my doubts on Jhanvi. If this is all Mayas plan then Jhanvi might be in it too. Jhanvi had excused all of Ashwins misdeeds including trying to murder her , time & again she had ran back to him so y not Maya ?She isnt a very stable woman & her still living with the Mathurs even after getting cured has raised my doubts. Maybe she will act as Mayas informer.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@aditi Kuch Kuch hota was crap in its own way, but like you said it was after 8 years of Tina's death, Rahul sees Anjali and feels for her. He didnt immediately rushed to Anjali when Tina died. He was a happy father I would say with his bundle of joy.

Here it is like ab Maya nahi toh Saanjh sahi 😆😆. He was blaming Vandana she married her father immediately after Raksha's death. That was atleast 6 months after his mom's death. Ye tho ek din mein side badal gaya. Saanjh shaadi karo. Abhi 😆😆

Ayan had said he is not Arjun. I want to see how this guy is different from confused Arjun. I want to see some real action from him that changes the game once and for all. I believe Maya's path to light is Ashwin and the medium for Prem's legacy is through Ayan.

@shruthiravi, remember what will happen if try to write in VM and Ayan Dusky. What did Dusky after leap? Dusky need to do what Maya did to get damn toy Duffer. She's on this way all the time. She reconcile Duffer and Ayan. She reconcile Daffer and VM. What was the result of this? And yet it will turn out? (this story isn't over)

@lepcha in beyhadh sab Maya hai. So if she is going to jail, she wanted to go to jail and do something else😆. Jhanvi, it will be a moron who will trust this woman. She can switch sides any time at will.

@Laska now Ayan is no longer a rapist and Arjun is no long a murderer as Maya has become mad and bad. It was not Dusky's second year in law college and third year in law college that bought Duffer and Ayan out. Infact Dusky did nothing.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Laska now Ayan is no longer a rapist and Arjun is no long a murderer as Maya has become mad and bad. It was not Dusky's second year in law college and third year in law college that bought Duffer and Ayan out. Infact Dusky did nothing.

Arjun broke the jail, he fought his battle, saved Dusky also and I would say played the major role in exposing bad and mad Maya.

Ayan too fooled the police, got in jail and supported the mission in his own way. Even Shubham and Suman did something tangible. Dusky did nothing. Yet everyone feels she did all the fighting. What kind of an illusion is it. Simple play of words.

And Maya she fights her battle, when she saved she really did it. Ayan or Arjun in season 1. But then she did nothing. Because she is bad and mad😆😆

After VM's death when Arjun went alone to tackle Maya, the angry young man failed miserably against her maneuvers because, as Maya herself revealed later-the secret of her success was aided by the weakness of Arjun -(ie) the 'nafrat' of Arjun!
It was his undoing & failed him to win against her!

But later, when he had Saanjh besides him, the same 'nafrat' got channelised productively! Saanjh guided him & controlled him not to do extreme things in anger!
She kept reminding him, it was essential to catch a 'live' Maya for getting rid of him, from all murder charges!

Her infamous deal with Rajiv took Arjun upto Maya's hiding place! Isn't it?
Her closeness with Arjun -that too in front of Maya- caused Maya to lose her balance in thoughts, thereby causing her to make mistakes!
One such mistake was playing the audio to Mathur's family!
Second mistake was melting down of Maya, when she saw Arjun shedding tears for Saanjh's well being!
Maya could not take back Arjun only because of Saanjh!

Now with a very limited scope of making a comparison, I wish to draw an interesting parallel, here!

Like the great Bhishma who could not be defeated or killed, but one who finally obliged to tell the secret to Pandavs of how to defeat him in war, Maya too got tricked here to give hints how she can be defeated by Arjun & Co!
The difference is Bhishma positively helped Pandavas, well, Maya's intentions- one can't be sure about it!
Maya is Bhishma! (Please don't jump at me, as I already qualified the comparison is very narrow & restricted only to a particular context we are discussing! No sweeping comments or generalities! )
The duo Saanjh-Arjun are akin to Shikhandi-Arjuna of MahaBharat!
One stood before the Bhishma (or Maya, here) providing a mask to the rear-guard fighter & simultaneously caused the opponent to go weak!
The other one fought the real battle using the ill-gotten opportunity, to bring down a great fighter who looked otherwise very invincible!
Now, you know who is Shikhandi of Bayhadh & who is Arjuna of Beyhadh as you understand better both MB & Beyhadh!

@shruthiravi, Duffer (and Jhanvi) played a major role in creating bad&mad Maya. In exposing bad&mad Maya, the main role was played by Maya herself

@Fernandes Maya is not Bhishma for the simple reason she doesnt have a white cloak and also she didnt fight someone else's battle. She fought her battle always. She was never a silent spectator or did things based on orders. She was a woman of action.