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Posted: 7 years ago
@athira the question is still unanswered. What did the business tycoon Maya Mehrotra see in Arjun Sharma to marry him and love him beyhadh?
It is the same question I asked during EHT days. Why did Nithya trust Dev blindly. What is there in Dev to trust him blindly.
Second what is there in Nithya for Dev to fight for her against his family.

CVs gave answers to both the questions if you observe that show. It was from same PH.

These are the couple of questions in beyhadh.

- Is Arjun Sharma a Duffer. Are all his feelings perceptions or illusions or Maya
- What did Maya Mehrotra see in Arjun Sharma to marry him. Why he is different from Ashwin and Rajiv
- Who is Prem's legacy. Saanjh, Arjun or someone else.

My analysis is always based on these questions and whether the script is trying to answer these questions. So far yes it tries to answer.
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Posted: 7 years ago
@shurthi in Season 2 maya and arjun got married. what was name of that employe?? Vikram i guess what he told about arjun is now coming true..he told maya he is just con artist..he told maya to be careful from arjun.he is not the way he looks..his intenstions are something else..i just wanted to know how come he know about arjun so well?? yaah i know somewhere vikram felt jelous from arjun but..what he told maya right now all is coming true..who is helping maya?? there is for sure someone out there jo maya ki sanak aur uske pagalpan ka fayda utha raha/rahi hai...😆 someone who knows maya really well how she reacts to certain things..how she thinks..how she manipulate..how she gives hints..how she plans everything..but who is that?
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Posted: 7 years ago
Jhanvi telling Maya that from now on she's Saanjh's mom is a laugh riot.I feel Maya should be happy now that she got rid of that mom . 😆 This so called mom only created problem for her always going behind Ashwin .

They showed Maya remembering the 7 vachans & how she was true to it. She had lied manipulated killed everything for those vachans. The way she was remembering it & comparing it with Arjun's bewafai , its too good. Maya gained more sympathy & fans which is good.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@anshvi the question is about Arjun's choice. Does he have a choice. As a child he was not given a choice. Whether he wanted Vandana as his mother. As an adult his choice of taking a wife is proven wrong. So what is Arjun, what are his decisions. Always wrong. I will repeat the question. Is Arjun always wrong. Because Maya sends him to VM, Arjun says sorry, so whatever he felt as 6 year old was just his illusion. Now Arjun goes to Dusky, so whatever he felt for Maya again a perception and illusion. Whatever Arjun feels is Maya, just his perception which is wrong. At this point it looks that way. He is a man with no independant mind. Duffer. Is he duffer.

Vandana had taken care of Arjun. I dont refute that. She anyday is far better a mother than Jhanvi who didnt protect child Maya. But then she didnt give space to Arjun to make his decisions. The problem is that. Arjun the individual and independent decisions.

And love is letting go. When has Saanjh let go of Arjun. She does it in dialogues, not once in action. But let us leave that aspect there as we disagree on that point.

Love is let go, and I want to feel that letting go from Prem's daughter. I want to see Prem's beti which I am not seeing. I was expecting Prem's beti from Prem's death but I see Vandana's beti, now Jhanvi's beti also with that arrogant smile, who doesnt raise a finger to fight for herself and wants Arjun to save her. I see the abla nari. I dont see Prem's beti in action whom Prem has taught how to swim, how to fight against the tide and how to let go the right way in action.

At this point I see Ashwin and Rajiv in Arjun who has married Maya who before marriage claimed in a pub get a rich girl, almost drove her to suicide, who didnt wanted to reduce her madness, who had relation with her, who wanted to move to her luxurious apartment ( all this are dialogues by him) who became CEO of a company without much effort and who wanted another woman also in his life, and who took the hand of his madness leaving his pregnant wife. I wanted to see the man who didnt expose where he was at night and took the blame of copyright stealing and got fired. That was the Arjun Sharma Maya respected. That was the Arjun Sharma I also respected. Not this man.

Yes whatever Maya has lost is because of her, her fear, her insecurities and most importantly her love which was her junoon. So let her leave that and reclaim whatever she has lost. She is capable of fighting another war. She doesnt have anything to lose. She has lost everything in the name of love. Beyhadh love. She doesnt know love and that was her problem always. So let her do what she knows best. Hatred. When she hates everything it will be better for her, because she knows the language of hatred which Ashwin had taught her very well. Let her speak that language.

Coming to step mom, I analyze the character the way it is presented, it is not universal law or something. And this analysis which is with respect to just beyhadh need not be made universal law or assumption or my feeling on anything. I dont make judgements.

I have seen a show " Meri Bhabi" where Supriya Pilaonkar had played a step mom. What a character that was and what a wonderful bonding saas-bahu shared in it. It was a very beautiful feel good show. But alas it didnt get the required TRPs and shut down in about a year.

So was the bonding of Dr Dayal and Durga in EHT. What a beautiful bonding that was which every daughter would love to get from her father and Dayal gives to Durga even being not her real father. And how he plays a father figure to Dev giving him the bitter pill first but then when he come realizing who Durga is, he gives a heartfelt hug. It was a very beautiful scene between Dev and Dayal. Not a single dialogue but both the men knew what is the truth.

Love doesnt need language. When love speaks, heart sees it. Unfortunately my heart has not seen Saanjh's love, but only her obsession which is camouflaged in wonderful dialogues.

While my heart did see Maya's attempt to love, but didnt know the language of love and she messed up between language of love and hatred and ended up losing everything.




And i loved everythibg whatever you have written.. 👏
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Posted: 7 years ago
@factfictionmyth Maya has only Samay with her. Only Samay knows Maya, only Samay understand Maya. If Samay brings her to darkness, he can bring her out of it also if she understands and knows Samay. Rajiv is dead, but not Samay and whatever he told her. We dont know what happened to Vikram. He had an accident, did he die, is he alive. Because in the crime list of Maya she didnt admit Pandit and Vikram. Why they were not mentioned. It is an open loop. I dont think they were there just like that.
@lepcha Rajiv had given Maya the most valuable lesson before his death. Test the people for whom you are becoming bad, test whether are they worth it. Maya says in season 1 she did all crimes. For Jhanvi. Was she worth those crimes. Now Maya says she did crimes to stay true to those 7 vachans. Why. Was Arjun worth it. You does crime to protect someone or because you love someone, if they are unworthy only you will become the criminal. The sin is only yours and these people will make you outcast. Think for whom you are committing sin or adharma. The seed of India's first epic was born from this question some learned men asked to Ratnakar the robber who killed people and robbed them. They asked him to do a reality check with his family whether they will share this sin of his which he is doing to feed them. This man goes and asks his family and they give callous reply they will not share his sin. From then starts the journey to Ratnakar the robber and killer to Valmiki who wrote Ramayana that stands as the eternal love story where a husband and wife stands by each other sharing the joy and sorrows of life even when the cruel society with its perceptions separates them.
Maya did sins for 2 unworthy people and an unworthy cause, so the sin is hers and she is bad and mad.
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Posted: 7 years ago
The cliche that 'Maya is bad and mad' is not doing any justice at all, to a marvelous presentation of the character Maya!
Maya was /is & always will be beyhadh!

It is only just, if her charaterisation got its due weight & hence always qualified as 'beyhadh mad and beyhadh bad'!
She is an epitome of what bad can mean when it assumes beyhadh proportions!
She is an embodiment of what mad can get when it zooms to extreme levels!

Any underplaying or toning down her character is just unfair, given such a magnificent performance & portrayal by the central character of the show!
Edited by Fernandes43 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Saanjh knows the truth. She knows only Arjun's head is with her, not the heart. Yes head is the one which takes such actions when you fear of losing someone. She took Maya's scarf from Arjun's eyes, but she feels the existence of that scarf even when it is not seen. Just like Arjun didnt threw that scarf away and kept it behind away from everyone's sight, even from his sight. If you dont see it, it doesnt exist. But then the scarf existed. Dusky knows the scarf exists. Now the scarf has to be thrown away. Yes now the question is to ensure the scarf goes away. So Dusky tells the fear.

And what does Suman tell. Dusky has been cheated in love twice. Joke. Arjun didnt cheat Dusky first time. He had not confessed love to her. That cheating was her perception. Second one, yes Samay cheated on her. So with one cheating Dusky lost faith in love, dusky can lose faith in love and Dusky needs to proof that Arjun loves her. Everyone wants to give Dusky proof.

What about that girl Maya who has been cheated multiple times in love, in fact had never felt love in true form. Doesnt she needed proof. Proof is the exclusive right of Dusky. What other than dialogues Duffer gave Maya. When Maya needed him the most he was with Dusky. Duffer says he feels at peace with Dusky. Yes a woman who allows you to do anything, tolerates all your rubbish and be a doormat to you an egoist man will feel happy only. Dusky was willing to jump for him. How many times this man had driven Maya to suicide. What kind of pain this man gave her, without giving her enough security in love. Always bringing his so called friendship in between. Now his friendship is love. Pavithra rishta which the wife shouldnt have suspected. He realized now, so that means all this time, he was two timing and that is why she never felt comfortable.Proof of love Dusky wants. Proof of love which Maya shouldnt demand.

Jhanvi yes you should have killed Maya in your womb. It would have spared that child that agony. You were telling you didnt teach Maya the difference between right and wrong. Her wrongs she took as her pain. So she knows her child had gone through terrible pain for which she didnt do anything. And when she tried to kill her, give her pain she is no longer her daughter. Why did you call this mother your mom Maya. Instead of trying to kill her, once you had F&C you should have left her with her darling husband and gone with your business. You would have been hale and healthy now. Alas you didnt do that.

What purpose it served Maya by doing crimes. By crying about your love. This world doesnt understand the language of love Maya. This world doesnt understand the language of heart. Even if they understand they just want to ignore it, because they dont like truth for what it is. They prefer the manipulated truth or Maya. Arjun threw the colors on you. Remove those colors. Your tears wont be seen. If you die no one will cry. No one will lose anything. Everyone will be happy. Allow Saajun to be together and live Maya. Face the world as bad and mad. Accept the loneliness. Leave the junoon and love. Your salvation lies there, your life lies in understanding yourself. Dont shed tears for those who dont shed tears for you.
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Posted: 7 years ago
There is one event that will have to happen making everyone's life easy & livable!

It will make Saanjh less guilty of marrying or even accepting arjun's love!
It will clear the legal obstruction ahead in the road for Arjun, to start afresh, a new life with dusky!
It will make life less painful for everyone who are unable to bear Maya's present plight!
It will even redeem Maya from her miseries by rendering her never-going-away obsession infructuous!

That event is her 'puri alvida' leading some one else to start 'adhura alvida'!
Edited by Fernandes43 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
Great analysis Shruti. So Duffer now realizes he has always loved Dusky. He's seeing true love but Saanjh has her doubts which looks silly because she has been waiting for this for long. So now Duffer will pursue his love to prove her his love is true 😆 Whole Mathur & Sharma family (only Ayaan left though ) will now help him. Why was Jhanvi keeping quiet ? I thought she would join the circus too. Ab Dusky itni dino itni beizzati sahi hai ab thoda pampering toh banta hi hai 😆 I was just watching Duffer & this man isnt properly out of a relation & already jumping into another one .
Chalo Saanjh ki dream toh puri honay wali hai. 😆 You are right Shruti. When did Arjun cheat her in love ? They were not lovers for him to cheat on her! Ya Rajiv did deceive her but don't think that affected her much because did she ever love Rajiv ?
On the one hand Suman is saying Saanjh has never loved any person other than you Arjun & the next moment she tells she got dhoka in love by Rajiv ! But we always knew Saanjh never loved Rajiv . He was just an option for her because she knew she wouldnt get Arjun. Today when Arjun said that he never loved Maya I was like we had said these so many times before. Had Rajiv & Maya not been psychos( had Rajiv truly loved Saanjh he would be the one cheated) but normal people these two were cheating on them not vice versa. Like I said before also had she loved Rajiv really she couldnt have forgiven him so easily not only for killing Prem but also for deceiving her & betraying her trust. But neither mattered to her & so she could forgive him easily & was giving him bhashan about her & Arjuns true love !😆 So why is she doubting Arjun& taking back steps now ? Only two days ago she was telling Rajiv that true love is what she & Arjun shared !Maybe she wants him to go beserk for her and from a doormat make her feel like a queen😆


Btw did u guys notice this is twice they showed Saanjh fainting. Maybe its nothing much& I am reading too much into it , maybe this constant turmoil is taking its toll on her aue bechari waise hi bahut patli hai 😆 But if they are really trying to show something later like shes diagnosed with some brain or heart disorder then what ? Maya today said she will never let them be together. We all know by now Maya obviously will die in the end but since its a thriller show the end always is left open ...what before dying Maya makes a plan secretly of her heart or brain or whichever should be given to Saanjh & she ends up getting Mayas organ. So in the end we see Saanjh with Arjun & hes happy & we see Saanjh giving a creepy smile 😆 Maya stays with him but in the body of Saanjh . Too far fetched isnt it ? But Saanjh shown fainting twice and they have focused on it gave me crazy idea 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
@lepcha Arjun proposed Maya in Mauritius, in a grand way. Arjun told Dusky he loves her when he was strapped as a human bomb. That proposal to Maya was life, and proposal to Saanjh was seeing her die. There is a lot of difference between telling I love you when you live and telling it when you are about to die.
Ayan tells dont confuse friendship and love. Both will not be there. That is exactly what Arjun had done with Maya and Saanjh. He took advantage of both women.

Yes Saanjh didnt love Rajiv. So cheating by Rajiv doesnt matter much to her as she loved only Arjun. And there is no first cheating by Arjun.

See jo Saanjh ka hai will go to Maya. That's what Saanjh asked to Ganesha. Now VM blessing is working, VM curse is working so this request to Ganesha too has to work.

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