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Posted: 8 years ago
saanhj is just an embarrassment in court. that high pitched annoying voice something is really pathetic and something is so wrong with that deluded girl. i did feel bad for her when she broke down bt not that much. for me the new prosecutor even though she was harsh would and could never be as bad as saanhj was when she was ayaan's attorney in court. this prosecutor had great pose about her and was not acting mad thank god. Maya i have no clue wat to say about that woman's brilliance she thought everything but we know she makes stupid mistakes i so want to see wat her mistake is. i liked how those old aunties taunted arjun lol i dnt get why Maya liked that duffer lol
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Posted: 8 years ago
Great analysis shruti. What didn't make sense was why there wasn't a cross examination? Why wasn't murfer scene investigated and why isn't Arjun's side of the story given ANY precendence! The lawyer is not presenting facts, she is passing snide remarks and not giving Arjun any chance to speak! One by one witnesses are paradises around but A's lawyer isn't doing anything! Why isn't Samay brought up? Like wasn't Saanjh engaged abd ready to get married? Why wont that be strong evidence to counterbalance that she was his mistress? And what about Maya's appointment with doctors since she was mentally unwell? I don't live in India, so pretty much anyone can be admitted to a mental hospital? And post her comeback to the house, she was taking prescription pills, what about that!

Just find the whole case one sided, when there is room for counter arguments that would at least place Maya's points in jeopardy. And also doesn't India have a jury system? So confused after today's bizzare episode. But glad to read your viewpoint.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Takingastand India doesnt have a jury system. Coming to Maya in mental hospital, Maya has already manipulated telling it Arjun put her in hospital. That Shruthi's statement did it. Also if you see Ayan's case Saanjh was screaming the same way. As Sandibab said the prosecution lawyer was not screaming that way. She was putting her case with points. Also we need to know that neither Arjun nor Saanjh knew the power of Maya Mehrotra who owned Fashion and City. Who created Fashion and City. There are many valid points with which you can counter Maya's points. Saanjh engagement, Maya herself had told to her staff that Arjun wanted to return the shares as he doesnt want world to think he is after Maya's money. Maya herself had put many loop holes which can be seen if Saanjh is willing to see past Maya or Moh Maya of Arjun
@sandi Maya tells Arjun should be her equal. Atleast think duffer, be her equal to prove her wrong

@Alex Maya in season 1 was a victim, but no one heard her, but now she is the criminal but everyone is hearing her. It is an irony of our system and our hypocrite society that only a criminal's voice is heard, not that of victim. Then we start telling crimes are increasing while we the society is responsible for giving shelter to criminals with our own selfishness. Saanjh has to learn to behave. What was that " I wish it was true, he loved me". If you need to prove accusation wrong behave in that manner.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Zaalima personally I dont enjoy watching death. I enjoy mostly those mental battles. If you had watched EHT there are scenes where Sakshi and Durga have face offs. They were brilliantly directed and Simone and Sanjeeda took it to a different level. Especially the one before Shaurya-Durga marriage " Come Durga come, come to the Goenka family. I will ensure you are alone" and during the marriage " Dr Dayal I was waiting for this question" and Durga telling " I have learned it from you Mrs Goenka". Each dialogue was a hit, power packed. Even Aditi Sajjwan was Nithya in FB was doing much better than Aneri as Saanjh when it comes to carrying power. She was also not screaming.
Having said that I had enjoyed Bhima killing Dussashan in 2013 SP MB and again the way Shaurya getting thrashed in EHT.

Coming to Vandana she lived in a box making judgements based on her perceptions and she died in a box.
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Posted: 8 years ago
I loved the episode today. Call me a hypocrite but I loved Saanjh & Arjun's insult.
Today that lawyer did the same thing that Saanjh did to Maya but this lawyer had enough proof and witnesses to back her claims unlike Saanjh who just goes on spitting nonsense without actual solid proof. Once Saanjh insulted Maya and also raised questions on Maya & Arjun's relation. Today the lawyer insulted Saanjh in front of the court and questioned her so-called friendship with her Duffer.
Actually Saanjh should be the one who should be called Duffer. She was accused of being Arjun's keep, a name any woman will detest and yet she stood in the court and claimed that she wished it was true. That itself will give negative vibes about her.
There was a time when no one believed Maya and now everyone believes Maya's story. I have always said that Saanjh's over indulgence in Maya & Arjun's life is going to be her biggest mistake. Yes, it is well and good to help a friend. But even after getting insulted multiple times by the same friend she didn't learn a lesson and just let it go. And the result is that both Saanjh and Arjun are going to be punished for a crime they didn't commit. Saanjh's unwanted interference has finally resulted in her and Arjun's destruction. Maya was true to her words "If he stay with her then she'll be the garland in his neck and if he leaves her then she'll become the noose around his neck".
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Posted: 8 years ago
I too liked this episode even though Maya was there for a minuscule time and that too in flashbacks. The prosecutor looks fresh and better than Saanjh the lawyer in all aspects.
Both Arjun and Saanjh had to face insults in court and Saanjh more so because once again she proved that she is the biggest fool in this show. At least Arjun kept quiet and answered what was required, nothing more. Did Saanjh like being called Arjun's keep because her replies point to that only albeit in an indirect manner.

And Maya? There is no one in this show who can play a game better than her. Even though I do not condone her acts, her planning and plotting are brilliant. She was so right when she said that her love would become a noose around Arjun's neck when he moves away from her. Arjun and Saanjh are trapped without being criminals.

Maya's game of self defence is exemplary if we leave out her bad deeds.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@jane remember during Maya's trial Arjun whispers to her Dusky and she shrieks Saanjh Mathur. Today she got up and told I wish it was true he loved me. See if you look even now she is putting a moral obligation on Arjun. Because of you my character is getting destroyed. We call her insane, but her goal is clear. Just like VM sob story. I did it for Arjun. Everything was for Arjun. Nothing for her father.
@fragrance I completely enjoyed the episode yesterday. I have to give to Maya's self defense, the brilliance with which she set it up.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Shruti Ravi I am reading your posts and I like the way you are analysing the show. I have read your posts in Mahabharat, POW, EHT, Siya ke ram, Dahleez. All of them were amazing. I think you are fond of mythology even I am fond of mythology.
I have one question during Ayan's case. The case was against a female. Female lawyer was only speaking and there was a female judge. But here case is against a male, there is a female lawyer and a male judge. Does this hold any symbolism?


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Posted: 8 years ago
@musical we need to know that this show is dealing with not only Maya the character but also Maya the perception.
See it is said that men will support men and women will support women. But look at rape case. Saanjh is against Maya. Samay's testimony, Arjun's support and a male lawyer give Maya support and the female judge gives verdict in favour of Maya.

Now a female lawyer is supporting a female. A female is supporting a male and a male judge is going to send verdict against a male.

So it is not about men and women. It is about how you are connected the results happen. A man can also favour women and go against a man

A woman can also favour a man and go against a woman. It all depends on your perceptions.

When rape case comes the perception is that a woman cannot falsely accuse, so it is tilted in Maya's favour from beginning

In current case if a middle class man marries a rich woman it is for money, it is tilted against Arjun's favour.

A woman meddling too much in a couple's affair is trying to be mistress is what goes against Saanjh.

Now look at the way Vandana takes Arjun from mandap. The girl who has stabbed her father is not good. The girl who broke the glass is not good. A pregnant woman will change.

These perceptions we need to know that has been formed due to some incidents in the past or a pattern of incidents in the past. A general set of behavior meant such and such things.

It is like analyzing data of the past and predicting future. But even the best analytics say their data is only 90% accurate as past can never predict future. There will be someone who go past those perceptions and show a different path.

We see that in history as well as mythology. The path showing, the light showing. A person who rises above Maya and prove the world wrong. Tell them their perceptions are wrong. This doesnt come in dialogues, it comes in action. Where you defy the logic of Maya. It is the test of fire.

In EHT you can see it very clearly in both Durga and Dev, when Durga decides to marry Shaurya she wanted to protect her friend and when Dev decides to marry Durga he thinks he had to let go of his love for Nithya. It's a hard path, but he takes that for her.
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Posted: 8 years ago
shruthi evn i JUST LOOOVE shows that show two leads having mental battles. even tho the scene will be so serious i'll be there sitting in a corner jus smiling bcuz of the dialogues and the underlying sarcasm, mockery or threats that they make. Indian TV really needs more of that. EHT was a true joy ride for me i ddnt watch any other show after that cuz the rest were all the same...

i hated shaurya but jus could not hate Sakshi Goenka, the class and sass she had as a negative role was amazing, hats off to the actress for that. Same way in revenge on wch EHT was loosely based on, wenevr Victoria nd Emily faced off or met at parties, they wud jus talk to each other smiling n say the most rudest things in the nicest way. My favourite dialogue is wen victoria tells emily "oh how nice of you putting sugar on my wounds" wen emily made a remark regarding victoria's circumstances wch obviously emily had planned.
idk if you watch intl tv shows but im sooo into k-drama (korean dramas) their plots far exceed that of american tv shows. there is this one abt lawyers called punch, Now that is one hell of a show, n it really shows hw tricky n awesome law can b while also showing the loopholes of society. Its a bit slow but the mental battles between the lawyers is such a treat. Theres a thrill to shows lik that wch jus puts a smile on my face, call me weird but i jus love it n i dont evn mind not being able to choose a side cuz the whole fun is sometimes being in between n watching the battle unfold till the last episode. With beyhadh, sony tv is really trying to bring indian tv to intl levels so despite all the bloopers n logic madness u hav to giv it to them...with all the typical stereotypes of indian society they hav very well tried to bring something new n for a first time theyv done an amazing job.

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