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Posted: 8 years ago
@Takingastand, Saanjh or twilight can never show you truth, it can show you the path to truth, truth is visible by savera. That's why I gave so much importance to Saanjh asking Vandana why cant she call her savera.
Coming to the show it is not just abt Maya the girl who sets up illusions or perceptions, it is perceptions in general. How your choices are influenced by perceptions. How that perceptions wreck havoc. It applies to every character in the show. Not just Maya the girl.

Dusk and Dawn are illusions in themselves or they are mediums, Dusk is the medium through which day meets night and Dawn is the medium through which night meets day. Everything depends on the medium. How the medium behaves, where the medium is placed. Medium is the grey area. Dusk shows the power of time, Dawn shows the power of love. Power of time destroys, power of love creates. Maya or perception thrives with power of time, it has no existence with power of love. 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
Shruthiji, u always said Saanjh will be light bearer nd will reach the truth of Maya..But with the last episode she failed big time...If only she has half the manipulative skills of Maya she could have dealt with the evidence smartly...She has never exhibited the skills of a lawyer..I will blame it on the writing...It's a badly written character...CVs have very extra effort to Make Maya but never bothered Abt Saanjh, the medium to break that Maya...That's why this show appears to be one sided nd boring at times also...I think most people root for Maya becoz she is smarter than u ever think...People often fall for intelligence nd Maya has it in infinity level...This is where Saanjh & Arjun lacked...They r plain dumb nd do actions on instinct or rather impulsively...Saanjh very well knew Maya conspires nd she faced it handy also...then why didn't u learn from ur mistakes!!! U failed in March exam...U r also failing in September exam..Means u didn't learn anything in between???Means u didn't got the lesson!!!And that's the main reason for Saanjh's downfall...If only her character is written somewhat intellectually this game would have been interesting!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
@ajay when will you learn from mistakes. When you accept you have committed mistake. That's the main problem. Everything is blamed on Maya. Without introspecting why Maya thrives. What is that she utilizes within you. She utilizes the 7 sins which exists us in one form or the other. The concept of Chakravyuha also is the same. You know to enter it, but you dont know to break it. Half knowledge. What takes Abhi's life in Chakravyuha is half knowledge. Half knowledge is the creator of Maya.
It is said very few know the entry and exit of Chakravyuha. Even if you know exit, unless you can take the power within Chakravyuha you will perish. Even the theortical knowledge of breaking Chakravyuha wont help you to actually break it, if you dont understand power. If you had read my Seven Vows, the major problem I faced was to ensure Sree's power hidden. The illusion of bhabi-devar relation and when that illusion breaks, power of other group has to go. Timing of illusion breaking is critical if you are writing battle of powers.

Here Saanjh has not understood her real power, that is the knowledge within her, the knowledge her father had given. Voice of Prem, Voice of love. Now she hears the voice of Maya. Maya is bad and mad. Yes she is. But if you to behave like her, aiding her, what is the difference. I watched the Holi episode where Prem and Suman talks to Saanjh asking her to leave Arjun. But in her head Saanjh hears Vandana voice, now it is your turn Saanjh, she will seperate you from Arjun. Saanjh chooses that voice over and above Prem's voice. It has happened every time. And I had told multiple times Vandana's beti cannot win the battle, only Prem's beti can. Because she is Vandana's beti is a myth or perception, but she is Prem's beti is a reality.

Any sane mother will talk like Suman only. I had found Suman to be the most relataable mother on the show. Her advice is voice of sanity. Now let us say Vandana tells Saanjh is her beti. If she is her beti, then she is sister to her sons. A bahu becomes beti, beti doesnt become bahu of same house. How can she tell her beti, let she get her son's love in a non-platonic way. It contradicts. Hope you are understanding what I am telling.

Saanjh will rise above Maya if she introspect and correct her actions. If she is able to hear the voice of Prem that can guide her. See if you look post Prem's death she broke down and she also reached the reality of Samay, we could see her father helped her, he gave her direction and she was willing to look at that direction than listening to Vandana who was telling Samay acha ladka hai. Ayan and Prem showed her the path to truth. But after that she sat there, telling Arjun it is the test of your friendship blah blah...If she takes action based on that direction given by her father she will be able to defeat Maya. The more she ignores Prem's voice and give in to Vandana's voice the darkness will continue. Maya will reign supreme.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@shruthiravi, If I correctly remember two Maya's birthday it is September 7 and 8. And the box number 8. 8 infinity. Closed cycle. And if you look at it from the point of view of the loop, then 8 is the mutual asphyxiating loop. 7 vow which Dusky forced give Maya
It would be great pleasure to watch Duffer in prison. And let him never get out of there. Let him burn in hell forever!
Duffer and Dusky can get married right there in prison. And make a monkey too, there's no Maya, there's no problem, live happily ever after😆😆😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Laska it is 7 and 9. There is a day in between. Many members have confirmed it is 7 and 9. 8 has a very big mytho significance. I am looking at that mytho significance. And duffer's prison number 786 gives me hope, it is the mytho concept of Maya that is used. Let me see.
Another thing I remembered. Remember Arjun and Saanjh takes cake for Maya. They cannot go up and Saanjh says it is VM birthday, so she erases "y" from the birthday cake which makes it Maa and then goes to VM with the cake. I was wondering what that meant. As Saanjh created the illusion or perception cake is for VM while it was actually made for Maya.


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Posted: 8 years ago
10/7/2017

What beautiful perceptions. What beautiful Maya and the judgements based on Maya or perceptions. Today the world were insulting Saanjh, calling her Arjun's keep. Well she was not. But it was true that her feelings for Arjun was also not platonic. Saanjh you cannot shout me and Arjun are just friends. World demands proof. World demands visual proof your dialogue. That you and Arjun are just friends. Arjun didnt marry Maya for money and you were party to it. No Saanjh the holy cloak and moral high ground wont work any more. Show proof.

Well people were asking me what is Maya's teesra roop. The roop you heard in court today is Maya's teesra roop. A very beautiful, intelligent woman who had set up Fashion and City. And I told Maya's bandar exists. And today I will tell you that bandar is Fashion and City. The enterprise Maya Mehrotra has build on her own. Yes she was the woman who created Fashion and City. Just like Ganesha who was created by Parvati alone, Fashion and City was created by Maya Mehrotra. No body can take credit from Maya for that. Fashion and City is the proof of Maya's heart. Maya's creative power. The bandar which no one gave her credit to. her loved one didnt call her the woman who has set up this enterprise. Either she was bad or mad otherwise vulnerable. Light of Maya's life was Fashion and City. That was her power too. If people could point her and tell you have created this enterprise than call her bad and mad, Maya had chance.

Vandana wanted to hear Ashwin that she was a girl who stabbed her father. She didnt look at Maya as a woman who had set up Fashion and City. Publicly she insulted Maya the girl by taking Arjun from mandap. Today Saanjh was getting insulted in court room called Arjun's keep. Vandana couldnt see Maya's tears, today the court didnt see Saanjh's tears.

What Saanjh told in the witness box was half truth. She had gone in between Arjun and Maya to prove Maya mad and bad. But yes she did try to convince Vandana, she did that marriage too. But then today the world didnt wanted to hear Saanjh's truth. It only wanted to take what it felt was right to take. Just like VM couldnt bless the girl who held the jar and fell at her feet asking her to give one chance. No her heart didnt melt a bit for that girl. Today the world's heart didnt melt for Saanjh. In the whole funda Saanjh was more insulted than Arjun. As it is very difficult for a girl to bear the cross of being a man's keep.

But again Saanjh made lot of mistakes today which will give people only food for gossip. She told she wished it was true that Arjun loved her. Then she told saving Arjun was her responsiblity, she didnt do it. Again she loved, loves and will love Arjun which came strongly and like a friend only after the pause. No Saanjh it will be taken in the negative light. Behave yourself. You are in court. Atleast dont create more Maya or perception.

Maya the woman had made all arrangements from beginning if at any point her marriage went wrong, if at any point Arjun tried to cheat her, leave her, she wont spare him. When she decided to marry Arjun, she had decided to create the proofs also. If you are close I am the garland in the neck, if you move away I am the noose.

Arjun says Maya had made his love a love for wealth. Duffer sharma you were there with Maya for the bandar. You didnt love her. You wanted bandar, but cared less for the woman who was bringing bandar to this world. You cannot negate what the lawyer told abt Arjun sharma that he was not a good husband, but the fact is he was neither good brother, son or friend to begin with.

Now the fact you wanted bandar without Maya, your thoughts you can leave Maya once you get bandar, is told by the prosecutor in a different fashion. You were eyeing Maya's bandar ie Fashion and City. And she told three steps for that trap Maya in love, marry her and then kill her. Arjun sharma in drunken state you had claimed this in front of friends. Trap a rich girl. I wont be surprised if someone come as witness for the same.

Arjun says Maya was a mad wind, a wind that is not leaving him even in death. Yes the mad Maya wont leave you even in death. And she had planned it from day 1. She was taught by Ashwin Arjun. A man who kept her in leash, so she wanted to keep another man in her leash.

Also Arjun Sharma you were incompatible at income level, a very fundamental thing that is coming against you. Instead of telling Maya did this to me, that to me. Maya gave me 2 Aloo parathas to eat, didnt allow me to drink if you had spend time in creating something similar to Fashion and City discussing with her today you didnt had to hear this. But you didnt had time for such discussions. You were worried for CCTV cameras, Maya tracking this, Maya tracking that. You managed her company, but couldnt do anything of your own in 3 years. I couldnt even see you tried doing something.

Maya knew you and she planned everything to ensure that you dont get away with her bandar Fashion and City in her absence.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

10/7/2017

What beautiful perceptions. What beautiful Maya and the judgements based on Maya or perceptions. Today the world were insulting Saanjh, calling her Arjun's keep. Well she was not. But it was true that her feelings for Arjun was also not platonic. Saanjh you cannot shout me and Arjun are just friends. World demands proof. World demands visual proof your dialogue. That you and Arjun are just friends. Arjun didnt marry Maya for money and you were party to it. No Saanjh the holy cloak and moral high ground wont work any more. Show proof.

Well people were asking me what is Maya's teesra roop. The roop you heard in court today is Maya's teesra roop. A very beautiful, intelligent woman who had set up Fashion and City. And I told Maya's bandar exists. And today I will tell you that bandar is Fashion and City. The enterprise Maya Mehrotra has build on her own. Yes she was the woman who created Fashion and City. Just like Ganesha who was created by Parvati alone, Fashion and City was created by Maya Mehrotra. No body can take credit from Maya for that. Fashion and City is the proof of Maya's heart. Maya's creative power. The bandar which no one gave her credit to. her loved one didnt call her the woman who has set up this enterprise. Either she was bad or mad otherwise vulnerable. Light of Maya's life was Fashion and City. That was her power too. If people could point her and tell you have created this enterprise than call her bad and mad, Maya had chance.

Vandana wanted to hear Ashwin that she was a girl who stabbed her father. She didnt look at Maya as a woman who had set up Fashion and City. Publicly she insulted Maya the girl by taking Arjun from mandap. Today Saanjh was getting insulted in court room called Arjun's keep. Vandana couldnt see Maya's tears, today the court didnt see Saanjh's tears.

What Saanjh told in the witness box was half truth. She had gone in between Arjun and Maya to prove Maya mad and bad. But yes she did try to convince Vandana, she did that marriage too. But then today the world didnt wanted to hear Saanjh's truth. It only wanted to take what it felt was right to take. Just like VM couldnt bless the girl who held the jar and fell at her feet asking her to give one chance. No her heart didnt melt a bit for that girl. Today the world's heart didnt melt for Saanjh. In the whole funda Saanjh was more insulted than Arjun. As it is very difficult for a girl to bear the cross of being a man's keep.

But again Saanjh made lot of mistakes today which will give people only food for gossip. She told she wished it was true that Arjun loved her. Then she told saving Arjun was her responsiblity, she didnt do it. Again she loved, loves and will love Arjun which came strongly and like a friend only after the pause. No Saanjh it will be taken in the negative light. Behave yourself. You are in court. Atleast dont create more Maya or perception.

Maya the woman had made all arrangements from beginning if at any point her marriage went wrong, if at any point Arjun tried to cheat her, leave her, she wont spare him. When she decided to marry Arjun, she had decided to create the proofs also. If you are close I am the garland in the neck, if you move away I am the noose.

Arjun says Maya had made his love a love for wealth. Duffer sharma you were there with Maya for the bandar. You didnt love her. You wanted bandar, but cared less for the woman who was bringing bandar to this world. You cannot negate what the lawyer told abt Arjun sharma that he was not a good husband, but the fact is he was neither good brother, son or friend to begin with.

Now the fact you wanted bandar without Maya, your thoughts you can leave Maya once you get bandar, is told by the prosecutor in a different fashion. You were eyeing Maya's bandar ie Fashion and City. And she told three steps for that trap Maya in love, marry her and then kill her. Arjun sharma in drunken state you had claimed this in front of friends. Trap a rich girl. I wont be surprised if someone come as witness for the same.

Arjun says Maya was a mad wind, a wind that is not leaving him even in death. Yes the mad Maya wont leave you even in death. And she had planned it from day 1. She was taught by Ashwin Arjun. A man who kept her in leash, so she wanted to keep another man in her leash.

Also Arjun Sharma you were incompatible at income level, a very fundamental thing that is coming against you. Instead of telling Maya did this to me, that to me. Maya gave me 2 Aloo parathas to eat, didnt allow me to drink if you had spend time in creating something similar to Fashion and City discussing with her today you didnt had to hear this. But you didnt had time for such discussions. You were worried for CCTV cameras, Maya tracking this, Maya tracking that. You managed her company, but couldnt do anything of your own in 3 years. I couldnt even see you tried doing something.

Maya knew you and she planned everything to ensure that you dont get away with her bandar Fashion and City in her absence.


Wow... Bang on... 👏

dnt know why i still feel bad for Maya..when she has done so many wrong things.. And irritation whenever i see sanjh onscreen.. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Zaalima I also cannot hate Maya. I only feel sorry for her that such a brilliant mind is lost in such wasteful way. She was a different woman. It is not easy to set up an enterprise which Maya has done. An enterprise is a job creator. It gives direct and indirect employment and brings food to the table for many families.
I have listened to NRN's inspirational speech where he talks about Infosys as his baby funded by his wife Sudha Murthy with Rs 10,000. It was not a woman who kept money for lehenga from childhood who funded NRN's vision but a woman who had written to JRD Tata on gender discrimination in recruitement and had worked in shop floors.
Infosys that changed India's IT landscape is infact the biggest monument of NRNs and Sudha Murthy's love story that gives employment to more than 1 lakh employees directly and 2-3 lakh people indirectly. It is the bread and butter of many families for which people has to thankful not only to NRN but also to the woman who supported that vision.

In Maya that capability was there.But unfortunately her direction was wrong which made her world dark.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Hi shruthi.. 😊

My name is Kulsum.. Agree with your point.. It is very difficult to build such organization.. And i loved Maya's attitude..and her principle.. In the beginning the dialogues were awesome.. Galti ko maaf kiya jaa sakti hai Be-mani nahi..tumhare 100 rupees bacha liya kisi ache kam karne ke liye use kar lena.. She was so focussed on her career.. Only fashion and the city was her target...Its just that her beyhadness ruined everything.. And she fell in love with useless Arjun.. Anyways.. I still want arya..no matter what.. if they dnt want to show bad wins over good.. Then bring maya's look a like who is exactly opposite.. and Arjun marries her in the end.. 😆 defintely dnt want saajun.. 😡

Did you enjoy vandana's death seq..??? 😉 😆

I did... đŸ€Ș
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Posted: 8 years ago
agree! agree! agree!
I face-palmed so hard wen saanjh kept screaming in court esp wen she said that she wished he did love her...like lady, arent u a criminal lawyer, arjun is more sensible than her only speaking where he should. uff...saanjh...this character...if arjun went a little mad cuz some of maya rubbed off on him then arjun's dufferness rubbed off quite alot on saanjh that her 3 years of law studies went down the drain..tho i must say wen mr malkani talks directly with saanjh i felt a little bad...these fake accusations...jus lik maya ws proven mad n bad by ashwin until she truly became exactly wat the world called her...nw saanjh n arjun will know hw it feels to be wrongly accused.
n after tdays episode i am sure...there is definitely more to this whole case than what we are being shown. so far every evidence that has been brought forward can be looked at separately as a back up plan by maya for the moment wen arjun does betray her n the loss of her actual child ws the catalyst that set everything in motion to maya planning her death...cuz she never trusted arjun, n why shud she...that man nvr gave her a chance to trust him..

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