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sunithi thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
Loved reading it..
Baby??..hope its arya baby and ur thesis 1 is correct reg.ashwin..i don't want samaya past this dirty,samay actions looks very lustful moreover till now he had remembered only biting scene so I am hopeful..

I completely agree with you reg.Maya being jealous..arjun behaves as if Maya is juz a baby carrier...when that guy will learn??

So VM speaking sense is hard to believe,hope saanj fits the bill..

Jenny did a very good job sday,aneri is improving...VM and piyush over acting a lot..
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Posted: 8 years ago
There was one scene in the beginning of S2 when Arjun was reluctant & less than interested Maya has seduced/forced Arjun to go/get physical!
I remember the very promo of scene generated a major acrimonious debate between members of forum even getting to a level of very personal remarks against each other!
The point is not that! When this was happening in the show, we also saw Samay witnessing it from some where! Why?
What was Samay's link, when husband & wife were spending their private time? Is it a cover-up to hide something?

Then after neck-bite incident another consummation scene happened! Has Samay stayed within his limits that time or like ashwin's murder only half of the story was told, then!
Did Maya have to do something even bigger to buy his loyalty? Is it yet another cover-up of Maya's misadventures?

The simple question is at what cost maya is getting her dirty job done through Samay?
Maya is once again getting under scanner!
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Posted: 8 years ago
@sunithi why it cannot be option 2. Why cant Maya have a premarital affair. See we have to come out of the thought process that a woman has to be a virgin at the time of the marriage. Many men are not, but there are many who stick to one woman post marriage. We know Ayan had pre marital, but does that mean he will not be a one woman man post marriage. Same can happen for a woman also. If they had a passionate relation in the past, and if the husband knows still it becomes an issue for woman. Men blackmail woman for that. Here Maya has her own dark deeds, so Samay can blackmail her. But if it is not, then in such cases women are driven to suicides because they had pre marital. I dont keep having a pre marital Maya's fault or Maya's impurity. In today's world it can happen to many girls and they do deserve a second chance.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Shruti di..I am scared of Maya doings after 9th birthday..she surprises me a lot...I am really not at all fond of samaya...samay character brought the worst of Maya (real Maya)which his still indigestible for me...sday the way Jhanvi was trying to tell something to Arjun when he said Maya is bimari not buri gave me bad vibes...
The justification or for what I loved Maya will not make any sense if they show Maya as buri..Maya is buri becox she is bimari is what I wanted to see...Arjun erasing footprints of Maya as you said a girl will get diginfied through the eyes of man wanted to happen...


I agree with Ayan part and society part...but Arjun was told be virgin,if it is premarital affair it is after 9th birthday .I am very scared of that part..

From the scene what I believe is the way samay wanted to hurt the baby,it's Arjun baby..his word r jux to taunt Maya for allowing to bite her. she did,he is correct. ..

I ve noticed,almost Every1 Ayan,VM,saanj somehow owned responsible for their actions...now Maya is also getting back from samay for her deeds..I didn't feel an ounce of sympathy when Maya confronted samay...Maya made me to feel that way..she need that punishment for asking some1 to bite her,flying kisses and for her emotional torture...

I want Arjun to learn about Maya but very less chances after seeing phase 3 promo..when will Maya lose her knight,that could be best for the baby...so hard to imagine Arjun reaction when he gets to know samay...

Felt bad for Maya when she felt jealous of her own baby..it's so sad to see in her life No1 is there to love her..Arjun made it sure to tell her,I left dusky for my Bandar not for you everytime..it's so bad..I felt bad for Maya...see is so helpless,all she needs is love from Arjun for her but it's always a Alas...
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Posted: 8 years ago
@sunithi I loved the terrified Maya, I had wanted time to play with her, enough of she playing with time. But how quick people can understand time will decide next activity. Yes in a way everyone owned their part in the mess. VM also told yesterday she is not going seperate Arjun and Maya, if God wanted it let that be. But the point is, things wont get corrected by such a realization now as lot of water has flown under the bridge.
See Maya is bimar and buri. See what is buri or bad. You do certain things to survive. A child steals food from a shop because its hungry and no one is giving the child food. Is the child buri/bura. Yes the action is bura, but the child can be corrected if shown the right direction.

But can you compare it to a child who steals a piece of jewellery from a shop as he or she fancies it.

A woman sells her body to buy food for her children as she finds no other option to feed them. Maybe a widow or a woman whose husband had left her and dont have much education to find a job, is she buri, giri hui aurat.

A girl from upscale college goes as a call girl to satisfy her need to have luxury items. Can you compare the woman and the girl.

Answer is no. An act in itself doesnt make someone bad. We need to see the situation in which the act was committed before condemning the act or the person for it.

In the first case the rich kid might get pampered, while the poor kid how much good he or she becomes that past will be used to taunt them, which can push them to criminals.

Even in second case the poor woman will come out of prostitution if she is given gainful employment, but the latter girl cannot be changed. But the latter girl will preach moral standards, while the poor woman will be called giri hui aurat blah blah based on her past pushing them to prostitution in many cases

Perceptions or Maya is the culprit here that destroys lives.

Maya is a girl with scarred childhood who has become a mad woman. Her current actions have no justification, but before making judgement on her, if someone had looked into that past maybe over a period of time she could have been cured.


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@sunithi I loved the terrified Maya, I had wanted time to play with her, enough of she playing with time. But how quick people can understand time will decide next activity. Yes in a way everyone owned their part in the mess. VM also told yesterday she is not going seperate Arjun and Maya, if God wanted it let that be. But the point is, things wont get corrected by such a realization now as lot of water has flown under the bridge.

See Maya is bimar and buri. See what is buri or bad. You do certain things to survive. A child steals food from a shop because its hungry and no one is giving the child food. Is the child buri/bura. Yes the action is bura, but the child can be corrected if shown the right direction.

But can you compare it to a child who steals a piece of jewellery from a shop as he or she fancies it.

A woman sells her body to buy food for her children as she finds no other option to feed them. Maybe a widow or a woman whose husband had left her and dont have much education to find a job, is she buri, giri hui aurat.

A girl from upscale college goes as a call girl to satisfy her need to have luxury items. Can you compare the woman and the girl.

Answer is no. An act in itself doesnt make someone bad. We need to see the situation in which the act was committed before condemning the act or the person for it.

In the first case the rich kid might get pampered, while the poor kid how much good he or she becomes that past will be used to taunt them, which can push them to criminals.

Even in second case the poor woman will come out of prostitution if she is given gainful employment, but the latter girl cannot be changed. But the latter girl will preach moral standards, while the poor woman will be called giri hui aurat blah blah based on her past pushing them to prostitution in many cases

Perceptions or Maya is the culprit here that destroys lives.

Maya is a girl with scarred childhood who has become a mad woman. Her current actions have no justification, but before making judgement on her, if someone had looked into that past maybe over a period of time she could have been cured.


@shruthiravi any chance that maya told arjun only half truth about her past?? i mean she told arjun only her side of the truth...your theory might be right about her..but one thing is for sure as you said..she is not pure at all..i remember the scene when maya was talking to arjun..and arjun was saying something like this he's virgin..and waiting for the right one..at that moment maya laughed on him..that laugh tells everything..Duffer is really duffer 😆 ..! if he had any brains..then he should have asked something about Maya's virginity..or maybe about her past life expiriences if she had any intimate relation with anyone..but Duffer is gonna alwys Duffer..😆

and BTW what about precap?? the remains of prem and ash fly on samay and what about the tatoo?? the foreigner tells sanjh its Maya tatoo on your fiance's back..now what?? the tatoo is written in other language..but who made that tatoo? artist maya?? 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
@fact...maya did say half truth to Arjun...after bachelor party,when arjun asked her to tell the truth,she thought about some of her deeds but Arjun said ur past is past..it doesn't concern me..so he knows only half truth..shruti di will watch the episode and then she will write about precap..so v ve to wait..

Shruti di ..even I am curious now as Arjun says Maya is doing bad things as the world doesn't give chances to her..what did he mean there??..is he aware of her doings??

I ve more concern about that buri part of Maya only...is Ashwin and jhanvi alone responsible for Maya condition or Maya involved,is that a perception created by maya about ashwin..ashwin bad doings justifies her killing and maya being molested jhanvi didnt save maya justifies her action towards her,if cvcs plays out that there I will be left speechless and wont watch further...i agree Maya actions r wrong but reasons r always correct,I want cvcs to maintain that till the end.she is buri becox she is bimar,as the world didnt give any chance to her or she learnt that way to survive...
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Posted: 8 years ago
Samay tells Maya the line that tumhara bacha,tumhari zindagi,tumhara pyaar lekin mera kya sirf nafrat .Mein tumhein hoon Maya (i am within you Maya) you can't hate me this lines indicate that its Samay's baby right @Shruthi
And plus i also feel that Samay is angry with Maya for telling Arjun and the world that its Arjun's baby thats why he is come to take his love back
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@sunithi why it cannot be option 2. Why cant Maya have a premarital affair. See we have to come out of the thought process that a woman has to be a virgin at the time of the marriage. Many men are not, but there are many who stick to one woman post marriage. We know Ayan had pre marital, but does that mean he will not be a one woman man post marriage. Same can happen for a woman also. If they had a passionate relation in the past, and if the husband knows still it becomes an issue for woman. Men blackmail woman for that. Here Maya has her own dark deeds, so Samay can blackmail her. But if it is not, then in such cases women are driven to suicides because they had pre marital. I dont keep having a pre marital Maya's fault or Maya's impurity. In today's world it can happen to many girls and they do deserve a second chance.

Shruthi di, agree with ur views regarding pre marital affair. But can we say Maya is loyal to Arjun?
When she promises him to change but doesn't show any convincing actions to change.
When she ploys to get him beaten just to defame Saanjh? Or let Samay love her n use that love(her statement to Jhanvi, ek biwi hokar doosre admi ko apne aap se pyaar karne diya)
Does she have the right to demand loyalty from Arjun till she herself is loyal to him.

Though Arjun is flawed, he had GFs , a clingy unhealthy friendship with Saanjh, but after marriage he's loyal to Maya, whereas Maya's letting someone else love her, just to use him, (she is fully aware of this) then can't Maya be called impure? (I am not talking about physical impurity here, I don't think the child is SaMaya child)


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Posted: 8 years ago
Guys watched episode now only. Bit tied.Will post analysis sometime today. Aditi coming to loyalty something have to be connected from season 1 and season 2. For me arya marriage is tug of war between both partners which I had expected to be. I will give detailed reply to you.

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