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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

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@aditi you forgot the last part of my SKR analysis, if you follow Narayan he will make you face the worst adharma, adharma you cannot even imagine, but if you trust him and fight it out in his direction you not only stand up for your rights, but also enable others to demand their right, the right way.

So who will face most adharma. Who will get hurt more. Facing adharma, facing hurt should not kill your soul. When will the lamp shine brighter, look brighter even when winds are blowing to extinguish it, it fights to stand alight to show the path. 😃

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#242

Yes Khushi I judged Vandana and Saanjh as Gods. Because their dialogues are like that. I stick to them. And I will say Saanjh has the potential to become God with her actions, Vandana doesnt have. Her judgement are destructive. For me if you talk like God, you have to behave like Gods.

I am a person who believes every human has the potential to become God with his or her actions. That's what the epics has taught also for me.

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Darciny

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Posted: 8 years ago

#243

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

All the symbolisms has indicated towards this part. Saanjh is the medium through which Arjun and Maya will unite in true sense. And when she says to Vandana why are you putting me Saanjh, keep my name as Savera, it answered one of my questions also. Saanjh is destructive or medium or destruction as after Dusk comes darkness. But savera that early morning darkness post which we see the sun on the horizon, it brings the light. She has to realize her path. She can burn herself to give light.

Since all the main characters of the show have been named due to certain qualities which they exhibit, the name Saanjh has always intrigued me a lot. Why did the creatives name one character Saanjh?

As you said one meaning could be that after dusk it's darkness or destruction. But what I have always believed the name to symbolize that is if 'Dusk' goes away then there would be darkness. Right now Saanjh is in a way holding light and dark together. But if she were to ever go away, darkness would completely engulf the light, the good in the world.

In the show too, I believe, they have shown that symbolism. When Saanjh was in the lives of Arjun and Maya (light and dark), Arya as a couple existed peacefully. No doubt there were problems going around, but their marriage wasn't at stake and they were very much in love with each other. When Saanjh left their lives for 3 years, it all went downhill. Arjun wanted divorce and their marital life was all gloomy. And now that she is back, Arya's relationship has improved as compared to those 3 years.

This is what I believe is the significance of the name Saanjh. The meaning dusk can be interpreted in so many ways. For some, it is the most peaceful time of the day. Like how Arjun finds solace in Saanjh's company. But as you said it can also mean that after dusk there's destruction. And maybe that is why Maya is intimidated by Dusk. Maybe that is why she wishes to eliminate that dusk.

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Khushi_love

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Posted: 8 years ago

#244

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
Yes Khushi I judged Vandana and Saanjh as Gods. Because their dialogues are like that. I stick to them. And I will say Saanjh has the potential to become God with her actions, Vandana doesnt have. Her judgement are destructive. For me if you talk like God, you have to behave like Gods.
I am a person who believes every human has the potential to become God with his or her actions. That's what the epics has taught also for me.

Shruti, I stick to my opinion that a mother's primitive instinct is to protect her child...n Vandana tried to do precisely that...yes, on face value, it appears insensitive from mayas pov, but from Vandana's pov, she just wanted to save Arjun from Maya's clutches...because she couldn't, both her sons are on there of being destroyed by Maya...

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sunithi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#245

@anshvi. Maya is bimar,thats the answer for Ur questions...she says she is pagal,pagal for ctrl,pagal to surivive in this cruel world..

@Kushi.will any petrified mom give curses to son and says only one son as her blood???

When son says,my wife is bimar and want to heal her,y not even once she is considering his pleading. Will all the mom always thinks their kids r not capable for taking correct decision...

My foremost question,will any mom allow a friend or any1 to call her son as duffer. My mon jux blast,if some1 name calls me or my brother. ..

Isn't it she shown the partiality from childhood btw Ayan and Arjun??

When ever I does mistakes,my mon corrects me but never cursed me or said only my brother is her son...I feel pity for Arjun whenever they show VM,I can feel for that 6 yr old Arjun not this arjun...

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sunithi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#246

@ Kushi Many of Ur answers r depends on future track..let's wait and watch then..

But for me mom cursing a son for chosing a path which she thinks is dangerous is beyond me..being a mom,try to stop Ur kid,yet it happens give Ur blessings and support him to surpass the struggle rather than cursing him to end up alone..if Arjun ends up alone,if Ur words r true VM loved him truly,she will be the one who will pay the heavy price becox of gulityness...

Though I am wrong,my mom never disowned me..she corrects me..

Name calling might look a simple phrase among friends,in my house my mom jux blast around randomly to any1 whom uses that to us..she feels it inbuilt the character in kid.duffer made him indecesive or not able to stick to his words...

If a mother can a change a future by giving curses,same way mom can avoided something's in past by heeding to his son or daughter in-law .

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441597

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Posted: 8 years ago

#247

People say a lot of stuff in anger which they don't mean. Many people even say things for which they feel guilty the rest of their lives; but fact remains that they didn't really mean it.

Arjun's case is slightly different, though. He's always called Vandana sautela, even when she desired the best for him. And in a situation where her son was in jail, she couldn't be expected to think straight.

Imagine a scenario like this: Of your two sons, one is in jail and the other is abusing you by calling you a sautela. Would you not crack at that precise moment?

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#248

@khushi there are lot of points both of us disagree, so let us leave it like that. Because though I know a mother's primitive instinct is protecting the child, that instinct need not be always right. The wrong of her judgement was shown in Prem's funeral. It was shown precisely in Prem's funeral. The funeral of love the metaphor. So I will also stick Vandana's judgements are wrong, destructive. So let us leave it like that than going again and again over it.

Coming to Saanjh I hope CVs will give me opportunity to compare her actions in present track and the next track where marked differences can be seen.

@krystal if Vandana cracked at that moment what is the difference between her and Arjun. Arjun called her soutela and she cursed him, perfectly fine. When your blood son is in jail and your foster son is calling you soutela that reaction happens when you think both sons are different. Else the dialogue should have been " Before I curse you just go, you need not support, but dont insult my love as soutela or something similar " . See your true nature always comes in pressure situations. Good, bad, ugly it comes out. The one who are able to handle it in a different fashion with maturity changes the history. And coming to Vandana she is remorseless, while Saanjh still has remorse for the baby Maya lost because of her. There is not one action of Vandana that shows any remorse for what she has done. Her ego and pride which tells I am always right is still there.

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anshvi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#249

Originally posted by: sunithi
@anshvi. Maya is bimar,thats the answer for Ur questions...she says she is pagal,pagal for ctrl,pagal to surivive in this cruel world..
@Kushi.will any petrified mom give curses to son and says only one son as her blood???
When son says,my wife is bimar and want to heal her,y not even once she is considering his pleading. Will all the mom always thinks their kids r not capable for taking correct decision...

My foremost question,will any mom allow a friend or any1 to call her son as duffer. My mon jux blast,if some1 name calls me or my brother. ..
Isn't it she shown the partiality from childhood btw Ayan and Arjun??
When ever I does mistakes,my mon corrects me but never cursed me or said only my brother is her son...I feel pity for Arjun whenever they show VM,I can feel for that 6 yr old Arjun not this arjun...

I don't think I asked any question...anyways that is what I have been saying that she is mentally ill and needs treatment first and foremost and then once that happens after that only she can realize and introspect..till then she will keep commiting crimes and justifying them

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Khushi_love

@Khushi_love

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Posted: 8 years ago

#250

Vandana may have been wrong in her judgement ment of Samay, but then in judging Samay, the mother in Vandana is not at play...it's the friendly neighbour Vandana who is advising Mathur family...

I m not saying a mother cannot make errors or is always right...I'm only saying Vandana is right in this story...

Anyways, I agree that we should agree to disagree at this point n watch the rest of the tale unwind...towards the end of the story, things should be pretty much clear as to whether Vandana was right or wrong...I expect Maya to give her a clean chit...

See you around...😊

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