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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1111

@alex yes I noticed the hesitation in Saanjh before she said duffer, that is why I put in my analysis go jump in Arjun's arms, why hesitation. Maya is bad and mad, but what is Saanjh. I seriously have headache everytime I hear her hypocrite dialogue and acting. Coming to colors. Black is the color when you absorb everything in the surrounding. It looks as if you know everything about the person but the fact is you know nothing about the person. Because it is closed inside. White reflects everything. It is blank. When you see white it feels as if you know nothing, it is blank, but if you have heart, white shows everything that is the truth. Coming to colors, what we see is what is rejected by us. So our eyes see the rejection, only the heart can see what is accepted. In reality we know people in colors than in black or white because we know something about them, we dont know something about them. That's why colors mean life while both black and white in a way are associated with death. As we get new knowledge the colors with which we see the world changes. From experiences we always take something and reject something. That's why colors are mostly associated with women also as even our epic says Shiv destroys, but Shakthi apni Maya se shrishti ki puna nirman karti hai. Women is life. If you dont respect her, then there will not be life on this earth.

@Mehr both Saanjh and Arjun at this point are hypocrites

@kavsy Jhanvi, yes Jhanvi why she is still there. I was checking whether seven people are against Maya. Ashwin, Vandana, Saanjh, Arjun, Ayan, Shubh, Suman . What remains is the darkness in Maya and Jhanvi. Darkness in Maya has to go, which only Maya can remove. Where do you place Jhanvi. Where will the 8th piece fall. As you rightly said Jhanvi pushed Maya towards Arjun as if marriage was the cure to her problems. Her daughter was much sane when she just had to deal with one man called Ashwin rather than deal with a pleathora of hypocrites in Arjun's family.

@factfictionmyth her defeat was expected. If you ask me she had never won. Because Saanjh always had the moral high ground without any solid action. Her lust for Arjun was well hidden in the mask of friendship, unlike Rajiv's lust which was open. So it is better she gets defeated and this Saanjh mata gets the chance to satisfy her lust. Some of the scenes in the last couple of episodes where Arjun comes close to Saanjh it feels so 🤢 to the extend I feel end this torture, marry Saanjh to Arjun so that she can get the climax she so much wishes for than showing us this irritating stuff.

@kavsy the dialogues who wants to escape in yesterday's episode was critical. She has chosen a path towards Arjun in which Arjun will know her truth. Rajiv will have his own plans and I dont think Maya is a fool to trust him completely. They both have sized up each other quite well.

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Y12345

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1112

@shruti: I feel bad, that Maya is going to be defeated. If Maya loses, Ashwin wins.If Saanjh wins, it's the judgmental society that wins, who associated mental illness with bad-mad and bad.

I feel that the black color means that Maya's end is near. Views?

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1113

@Y12 one thing you need to know is that Maya's methods, her brain has to be defeated. Because from Ashwin she learned to win through brain. Remember during Ayan's case itself I had told she has to lose, if she wins that means she has manipulated.

Maya realized her loss when Arjun left her for Saanjh and she planned to destroy him and her. Here we need to note that Maya doesnt plan to live post Arjun's death, while if Maya dies Arjun will have gala time with Saanjh as bad and mad Maya is dead.

Now you say if Maya loses then the judgemental society wins. See the methods Maya used actually gave victory to judgemental society only. Agreed Maya is a victim of judgemental society. Ayan also is a victim of judgemental society. It was the judgement that a woman wont fake rape that went against Ayan.

Coming to Arjun I wont tell he is a victim of judgmental society because he himself had cried in front of Ganesha Maya cannot have the child, while telling Maya he will protect the child. Then his love being greed, there are enough dialogues that tell yes greed was there in his love for Maya. He did physically abuse her and yes his relation with Saanjh is emotional abuse to any wife. Only thing he didnt kill her.

But having said that he also got punishment for murder which is not right. To be frank justice is missing from the show. If injustice was done to Maya the child, the court has also not done justice to Ayan and Arjun.

The victory is when justice is served, where the balances get corrected, and justice happens when head is defeated.

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Lucifer

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1114

What is exactly going on this show??

Samay tries to kill Saanjh but Arjun doesn't allow it
Samay tries to kill Arjun but Maya doesn't allow it
(Poor Samay, what is the problem with everyone why can't they let Mr Innocent live with his hobby of killing people)

Then SaaJun will join hands with Samay (who cares if he killed Prem!! No seriously... who cares, atleast not Saanjh and Arjun)

Then Samay would deceive Maya (Lets hope it works out as planned by Arjun)

Maya clearly has a backup plan ready, so at the end of the day Maya will make a fool out of everyone (again) so maybe she will win this time (again)

What exactly is going on??!

And when it comes to hypocrisy, Arjun Sharma beats Saanjh, he will not sacrifice his Dusky, but he was ready to do so last night, so that he can escape from faasi, he did it yet again when he left Saanjh all alone in such a dangerous situation to follow Maya, and now he is clearly lying!!
What a kamina he is, Saanjh might be many things but she always stood by Arjun, and look at this guy!

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Fragrance63

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1115

Very thought provoking comments by all including shruthiravi's latest update on this thread of hers.

This show promised to be different so the ending has to be different too. Okay I don't want Maya to go scot free but Saanjh and Arjun ending up together would be hypocritical on the part of the makers. So I hope the makers come up with more and more twists and keep the viewers guessing about the ending. And hope the ending is something which will be remembered for a long,long time. I hope more masks are unveiled that will shock the viewers.

CVs you have it in you. Don't make it a typical ending

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1116

@manya I will tell you what is happening. 7 people have surrounded Maya the woman. I want to take MB very much, but then I am deciding against it, as the temper in this forum is very high when you try to do balanced analysis. Yes Maya is a sinner. I agree. To be frank the only murder I really condone her is that of Prem which she didnt do directly, but was instrumental in its happening. And the only manipulation I felt sorry was also that of Ayan. Though I dont justify her crimes, I didnt feel any sympathy for characters at the receiving end.

Now Maya the sinner. Who are the seven people surrounding her Ashwin, Vandana, Saanjh, Arjun, Ayan, Rajiv, Shubh and Suman. Now two people are dead and rest five alive. Are all these people innocent to stone Maya alone. Maya has tackled each one of them individually, they couldnt defeat her, now the so called army of 7 perfectly innocent people have surrounded her. This is where the question of justice comes. Justice takes into account all sins and each one is given result based on that. It doesnt look Maya, Arjun or Saanjh but it is the cumulative result of each of their karma. And the wheel of justice works in which first you pay for all your sins cleansing your karma. That is why it is said the darkest hour is just before dawn. If you can withstand the punishment or effect of your karma a new dawn can come your way. So yes these 7 people are going to punish Maya for her karma which she deserves, but justice will be done only if these people are also shown the mirror on what they have done especially Arjun and Saanjh. Maya asks does a dead person live. Answer is yes. Even if a person is dead his or her thoughts live and is expressed by different people. And mostly the half glass empty syndrome gets more takers than half glass full. It is like the last scene of Oh My God. In this world there are more God fearing people than God loving people, so all the negative thoughts will find its manipulation. Maya herself uses Ashwin's methods post his death so then others will also use. So is there a scope for change. Yes, they played Venkatesha Suprabhatam and the lines they choose was uttistha Kamalakanta trilokam mangalam bhav. It meant oh the husband of Kamala or husband of Mahalakshmi please wake up. Only then the auspicious tidings will grace the three worlds. Now what is Narayana. It can be heart's voice which is dead. It can also be a person who is not aware of himself who is sleeping. In a nutshell the justice will come only when Narayan wakes up or when the heart's voice is heard. Now who will do that, how it will be done and all we have to see.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1117

@Fragrance agree Saajun together is a typical hypocritical ending and it doesnt pass the right message as we are telling judgmental society always wins and justice is not served.

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1118

@shruthiravi, and Dusky constantly remembers when there was no one between her Duffer and his Dusky. She deleted Maya. How she dealt with the rest, she also acted with Maya. Remember the scene with the golgape? She was ready to burn herself to burn this marriage. To burn the fact that Duffer is married. And finally she did it. She's all in black on the beach in front of the fire just right between them

As for Jhanvi, I still can't catch her. Now she is so out of the picture that it is difficult to understand what role she will play. She still has two paths. By what she will go. Or she will pass in both ways

Duffer. There can't be any way back for him. Just impossible! No way! Never! Under no circumstances. Not under any truth. Freebies. Heavy ways or something else there. Just never!

Dusky. Prem once said: "The worst thing will be if after all the waiting and all the hard work and diligence and blah blah blah, Duffer will refuse Dusky" - is her bonfire, and it's still waiting her

By the way, dinner was too short

As for Maya, I'll just wait until Maya opens up. There, a lot will play, much will unfold. It is possible even that it was discovered earlier, as the case with VM's hand, there also stayed fog

The vow was "to the last breath" - her last breath was. The last breath was when Duffer killed Maya

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1119

@Laska I will not forget the golgapa scene which was really dusky burning. I had put that in that analysis also. It looked more dangerous than Dusky in black dress near the fire. Maya was always between Duffer and Dusky as per Dusky. And as per VM also.

I had said first time also. If Maya had taken Arjun after Saanjh professed her love and Arjun too had professed his love for her, yes Maya came in between. But it was Saanjh who professed her love after Maya professed her love for Arjun and Arjun professed his love for Maya. Then who is in between.

Then everyone expect Maya to leave Arjun seeing Dusky's love. Why, why she should leave if Arjun is not in a dating relation with Dusky. She felt some feelings for a man and she professed it. The man was a bachelor, not having a girl friend at the time of proposal. Maya was also unmarried and not having a boy friend at the time of proposal. So what was wrong that happened there.

But the woman who ate gol gappa was the one who who couldnt show her love to a man who was married and as per the knowledge she had was going to be a father. Yes she put lot of mirchi in it.

Coming to dinner. Do you think it is over 😃. It looks like it is over, but I am not so sure.

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CutiepieAD

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@manya I will tell you what is happening. 7 people have surrounded Maya the woman. I want to take MB very much, but then I am deciding against it, as the temper in this forum is very high when you try to do balanced analysis. Yes Maya is a sinner. I agree. To be frank the only murder I really condone her is that of Prem which she didnt do directly, but was instrumental in its happening. And the only manipulation I felt sorry was also that of Ayan. Though I dont justify her crimes, I didnt feel any sympathy for characters at the receiving end.
Now Maya the sinner. Who are the seven people surrounding her Ashwin, Vandana, Saanjh, Arjun, Ayan, Rajiv, Shubh and Suman. Now two people are dead and rest five alive. Are all these people innocent to stone Maya alone. Maya has tackled each one of them individually, they couldnt defeat her, now the so called army of 7 perfectly innocent people have surrounded her. This is where the question of justice comes. Justice takes into account all sins and each one is given result based on that. It doesnt look Maya, Arjun or Saanjh but it is the cumulative result of each of their karma. And the wheel of justice works in which first you pay for all your sins cleansing your karma. That is why it is said the darkest hour is just before dawn. If you can withstand the punishment or effect of your karma a new dawn can come your way. So yes these 7 people are going to punish Maya for her karma which she deserves, but justice will be done only if these people are also shown the mirror on what they have done especially Arjun and Saanjh. Maya asks does a dead person live. Answer is yes. Even if a person is dead his or her thoughts live and is expressed by different people. And mostly the half glass empty syndrome gets more takers than half glass full. It is like the last scene of Oh My God. In this world there are more God fearing people than God loving people, so all the negative thoughts will find its manipulation. Maya herself uses Ashwin's methods post his death so then others will also use. So is there a scope for change. Yes, they played Venkatesha Suprabhatam and the lines they choose was uttistha Kamalakanta trilokam mangalam bhav. It meant oh the husband of Kamala or husband of Mahalakshmi please wake up. Only then the auspicious tidings will grace the three worlds. Now what is Narayana. It can be heart's voice which is dead. It can also be a person who is not aware of himself who is sleeping. In a nutshell the justice will come only when Narayan wakes up or when the heart's voice is heard. Now who will do that, how it will be done and all we have to see.

Shruthi di this is one of your best posts in the thread.

I am not watching the show anymore, but I had watched those episodes when Maya's head was shaved, I too was wondering why they chose such a BGM for Maya. If Maya is dark Illusion then this song doesn't fit at all. Either it was ironically used, as in reverse psychology, that Vankatesha wake up n remove the dark illusion... And then we saw Maya's head getting shaved.

I was telling my friend what was the need of shaving her head for few seconds... They gave so much buzz for it, just for few seconds... 😕😆

But after reading your post I find it symbolic. Her hair got cut n new hair grew, maybe that symbolises that the dark part of Maya will go and a new Maya will come, redeemed one. Of course don't want her to go scot free, but I feel right at the end moment, they'll give a kind of redemption for her. Maybe she listens to her heart, right now she's listening to her head n is getting darker n darker, at last she has to listen to her heart n finally decides to do penance for her wrong deeds?

And i think SaaJun won't be the end game, maybe Arjun will fall for Saanjh, (VMs last wish) but he will remain alone forever n lose both Maya n Saanjh, n abt Saanjh, when she loses Arjun, she'll get to know Maya's pain which made her do those criminal activities.

That will be Narayan's justice.

Hope I made sense 😆

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